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AP/ November 2, 2010, 8:21 PM

Biden: Democratic Base Should "Stop Whining"

Campaigning for Democratic candidates in New Hampshire, Vice President Joe Biden said Monday the party's base should "stop whining."

Biden attended a fundraiser for Rep. Paul Hodes, who is running for the Senate; Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, who is seeking re-election to a third term; and the state Democratic Party.

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Biden said Democrats can win both races if they draw clear distinctions between themselves and their Republican opponents, and he urged Democrats to "remind our base constituency to stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This president has done an incredible job. He's kept his promises."

The event was hosted by yogurt manufacturer Stonyfield Farm, whose president, Gary Hirshberg, is a longtime Democratic activist and fundraiser.

Speaking to voters at a Manchester home earlier in the day, Biden said the "Pledge to America" House Republicans are promoting would do nothing but increase the national debt and eliminate government services critical to the nation's health and prosperity.

Republicans last week unveiled their plan to cut taxes and spending, repeal President Obama's health care law and end his stimulus program if the GOP retakes the House in November. Biden criticized its lack of specifics and offered his opinion on what would happen if the plan was implemented.

"If they did everything the pledge calls for, it will add a trillion dollars to the debt and that would require them under their program to eliminate every program in the government from the FBI to highways and a whole bunch of other things to meet the goals they state," he said.

Biden spoke about the economy to about a dozen voters at a home in Manchester, where he was joined by New Hampshire's three Democrats in Congress: Hodes, Shea-Porter and Sen. Jeanne Shaheen.

Biden said Democrats will lose if the November election is a referendum on how people feel about the economy, but they'll win if they emphasize the progress they've made and plans to build on it. He said he understands that someone looking for a job doesn't have time to track the details of the new health care law or stimulus program, but he said Democrats should remind those voters that many of the benefits haven't kicked in yet.

"We've made great progress, but to the guy or the woman sitting at their kitchen table without a job it doesn't matter - they're in trouble. We owe them an answer as to how we're going to ... now that the economy's been stabilized, build it again," Biden said.

That answer includes increasing tax credits for small business, giving companies incentives to manufacture their products in the United States instead of overseas and focusing on creating jobs in renewable energy and other green technologies, Biden said. Republicans, meanwhile, have become the "party of repeal and repeat," he said.

"What they're offering is not only going to keep us in the ditch, it's going to drive us back down further into the ditch," he said.

Parish Braden, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said Biden's trip to New Hampshire should remind voters that Hodes and Shea-Porter "are in lockstep with the Obama administration's failed economic policies that have hurt small businesses, raised taxes and put our country further into debt."
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fightthespin says:
Why does no one seem to see what's happening here?
Step 1: Biden makes a mildly provocative two-word comment in the midst of a completely sensible series of remarks.
Step 2: The media puts the two word comment in the headline and makes it sound like Biden's entire point was to chastise the base.
Step 3: Liberals respond only to the media's distorting headline.
Step 4: Republicans win in November.

Rinse and repeat. This is how we lose over and over again, guys.
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billster68 says:
Dear Mr. Biden - - Can't you comment on anything without putting your "foot into your mouth"? Your lack of public restraint, taste and forethought is truly incredible - - hereafter I will refer to you as "Gaffman".

Challenge to future voters: please be more selective about who is proposed for office. Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin - - examples of "what not to do" - - none of these people are qualified - - surely we can do better.
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ravenscrafte says:
Ok Im a democrat, Party faith fulalways, But there seems to be a serious disconnect between the party and its base. Biden does nothing to help the cause when he insults us calling us whiners. Talk about an idiotic policy,and then to have Mr Obama complaining about appathy? Next time he sits down to dinner,in his suit and expensive shoes with his daughters who go to private school in that big white house he lives in, perhaps he could think about those of us without work and homes who couldnt afford to feed,much less send our kids to a private school before he takes us to task for our appathy. Pure arrogance on both his and bidens part and it will begin to bite him.
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longtree-2009 says:
biden doesn't get it. two years and obama, biden, the rest of the democrats ruling the nation haven't even thrown a bone to the average u.s. citizen. they have only helped the rich, the famous, and special interest groups. change, is what their campaign was all about but the only change anyone seems to want these days is to toss obama/biden out of office along with all the other fork tongued democrats in congress. all they know to do is to play the blame game, to give eloquent rhetoric and constantly go on vacation while the average citizen suffers.
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JustYourAverageReader says:
Biden, "This president has done an incredible job. He's kept his promises."

Sure! I know one of the campaign promises was to heavily penalize those US companies exporting jobs. That hasn't happened. Therefore Biden's statement must not be true. If it is not true, then it must be a ___?


Fill in the blank.
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nevertoolate says:
Obama is starting his College Whine Tour, hoping to light a spark in the group that helped him get into the White House. I guess his string pullers are finding out that "you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time". He uses the youth because so many of them will oblige him without thinking, however, I do believe that everyone is more educated on his mission to destroy The United States now, but some believe that no one could have the adaucity to do it so in the open, and those could be vulnerable. Watch out for the Obama Administrations last minute accusations of affair or some indefensible act committed by the Democrats opponent, when it is too late to dispute in the really important races. That is how Obama won in Chicago and they have ASK and AKP&D, Axelrod and Plouffe's two companies that managed Obama's campaign using unethical practices. Remember ACORN and the Caucuses and the more then 1200 complaints that the DNC refused to investigate!
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rockcutr replies:
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Should be easy to catch a 'publican in compromising positions. Everyone knows they are all fornicators of monkeys and elephants. PT Barnums party of a sucker born every minuite. Sugar on a stick. Lick it and it goes away. Leaving ya with a useless stick made out of paper. Which is all the circus party pushes. Paper, paper, paper. Save a tree, eat a republican. Rember to roast them for at least 24 hours or it will be really tough and nearly impossible to chew and even harder to swallow.
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Perhaps you should listen to your leaders, quit whining and drop the lethargy.
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JustYourAverageReader says:
Stop whining? Isn't that kind of like asking L Lohan to stop drugs and alcohol? The odds are just not that great. There are better odds that the Pittsburgh Pirates will win baseball's World Series this year.
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IvoShandor says:
"remind our base constituency to stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This president has done an incredible job. He's kept his promises"

Actually Joe, no he hasn't, on myriad issues. Just check out independent observers like Politifact (http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/), granted he's kept some but not all of them.

The best response to the meat of VP Biden's comment - "look at the alternatives" - that I have seen basically goes like this: Me: "Hey Mom, I got 4 D's on my report card" Mom: "That's terrible, what are you doing while you're at school?" Me: If you think that's bad you should see what Billy Smith down the street got on his report card."

If the Dems best argument is really "we're not Republicans, so quit your whining" then they deserve to lose in November. Voting against crappy Dems isn't tantamount to party treason, it is an effective method of making Dems realize that if they refuse to represent the people who put them in office then they will lose elections. Period. Since we have elections every two years round these parts, it's not the end of the world. A kick in the rump might actually wake up these corporatist wanna-bes, maybe realize that they'd better do a better job working toward a coherent agenda that isn't just, "compromise with the right, be centrist, and brown-nose bankers and corporations".
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RobAla says:
Translation for Biden: "Democrats stop whining! We have given you your Messiah, the great lord Obama. He and your left wing progressives in the House and Senate have saved the day for you. You wanted to model the United States after Europe, and we have given you more than 9% unemployment for more than a year - just like Europe. We gave you a nationalized health care bill, which will cause the majority of Americans to suffer a greater cost for health care. We all must be in misery, to make things fair. We are on our way! Take heart, and stop whining."
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themooniac says:
Joe just tells it like it is. Thanks Joe.
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RealWorldNow replies:
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For being an Idiot, drooling fool.
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