September 10, 2010 3:01 PM

Fidel Castro: Cuban Communism Not Working

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(AP)  Cuba's communist economic model has come in for criticism from an unlikely source: Fidel Castro.

The revolutionary leader told a visiting American journalist and a U.S.-Cuba policy expert that the island's state-dominated system is in need of change, a rare comment on domestic affairs from a man who has taken pains to steer clear of local issues since illness forced him to step down as president four years ago.

The fact that things are not working efficiently on this cash-strapped Caribbean island is hardly news. Fidel's brother Raul, the country's president, has said the same thing repeatedly. But the blunt assessment by the father of Cuba's 1959 revolution is sure to raise eyebrows.

Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic magazine, asked Castro if Cuba's economic system was still worth exporting to other countries, and Castro replied: "The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore," Goldberg wrote Wednesday in a post on his Atlantic blog.

The Cuban government had no immediate comment on Goldberg's account.

Julia Sweig, a Cuba expert at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations who accompanied Goldberg on the trip, confirmed the Cuban leader's comment, which he made at a private lunch last week.

She told The Associated Press she took the remark to be in line with Raul Castro's call for gradual but widespread reform.

"It sounded consistent with the general consensus in the country now, up to and including his brother's position," Sweig said.

In general, she said she found the 84-year-old Castro to be "relaxed, witty, conversational and quite accessible."

"He has a new lease on life, and he is taking advantage of it," Sweig said.

Castro stepped down temporarily in July 2006 due to a serious illness that nearly killed him.

He resigned permanently two years later, but remains head of the Communist Party. After staying almost entirely out of the spotlight for four years, he re-emerged in July and now speaks frequently about international affairs. He has been warning for weeks of the threat of a nuclear war over Iran.

But the ex-president has said very little about Cuba and its politics, perhaps to limit the perception he is stepping on his brother's toes.

Goldberg, who traveled to Cuba at Castro's invitation last week to discuss a recent Atlantic article he wrote about Iran's nuclear program, also reported on Tuesday that Castro questioned his own actions during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, including his recommendation to Soviet leaders that they use nuclear weapons against the United States.

Even after the fall of the Soviet Union, Cuba has clung to its communist system.

The state controls well over 90 percent of the economy, paying workers salaries of about $20 a month in return for free health care and education, and nearly free transportation and housing. At least a portion of every citizen's food needs are sold to them through ration books at heavily subsidized prices.

Cuba says much of its suffering is caused by the 48-year-old U.S. trade embargo. The economy has also been slammed by the global economic downturn, a drop in nickel prices and the fallout from three devastating hurricanes that hit in quick succession in 2008. Corruption and inefficiency have exacerbated problems.

As president, Raul Castro has instituted a series of limited economic reforms, and has warned Cubans that they need to start working harder and expecting less from the government. But the president has also made it clear he has no desire to depart from Cuba's socialist system or embrace capitalism.

Fidel Castro's interview with Goldberg is the only one he has given to an American journalist since he left office.

AP
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by MalloryDavis September 10, 2010 7:20 AM EDT
We need a bit of socialism...and capitalism. WE NEED BOTH.
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by lloydbest1 September 9, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
by recoveringRepub September 9, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
"Like the Right wing Nuts (Dictator-style) works better! Corruption from the Bush Administration has brought the entire world to it's knees. SOCIALISM brought you your roads, your schools, social security disibilities insurance (something everyone forgets is included with that payroll deduction called Social Security), your police, etc. Heaven isn't gonna be Capitalism; what will you tell your Lord when he enacts a Socialist Program?"

I emphasized the word "socialism" in the quote above because for all its apparent similarities with its evil twin, Communism, the two are entirely different. The repub in recovery is entirely correct in that socalistic practises brought about all the quality-of-life enhancements he (or maybe she) has described and many more but implying that communism is merely "more and better" is a fallacy.

Communism's rigid ideology prohibits ANY upward mobility, even among the classes who could benefit from it the most. Under a Communist system a class may rise but individuals in it never do. Stripping the wealthy as Marxists insist as a first and critical step in society's reformation benefits no one if the confiscated wealth ends up in government pockets.
Communism makes no allowances for individual talents, initiative and abilities. All must be shared as gifts for the common good and any satisfaction the giver obtains from his or her largess comes from the self-sacrifice for that common good, expected from all, and in nothing else. The observations so many made of the old Soviet caste system's reward of favorable characteristics to those few who merited such merely points out the deficiencies in Communist theory when confronted with the realities of human nature.

And as I mentioned in an earlier post, there are those who believe the "rules" don't apply to them. For an example of what I mean, look to North Korea's ruling elite. Kim has said markets are unnecessary in a socalist society (another, by the way, who confuses "socalism" with "communism") but the extravagant lifestyles he and his court enjoy while the typical North Korean grunt-in-the-street must settle for one that is not quite enough to avoid starvation is a massive insult to socalism and everything it stands for.

All of you who believe socalism is merely communism-lite or who use the terms interchangably be aware they are not the same in the least. A shark and a dolphin look superficially alike but aren't even in the same zoological class. likewise there is a wide ideological difference between socalism and communism. As an unabashed and unashamed leftist, I support democratic socalism. I do not support the rigid doctrinaire approach to economic management that is a hallmark of all Marxist ideology.
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by lloydbest1 September 9, 2010 6:52 PM EDT
Hey! Sorry about the double post. It was unintentional
by lloydbest1 September 9, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
by recoveringRepub September 9, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
"Like the Right wing Nuts (Dictator-style) works better! Corruption from the Bush Administration has brought the entire world to it's knees. SOCIALISM brought you your roads, your schools, social security disibilities insurance (something everyone forgets is included with that payroll deduction called Social Security), your police, etc. Heaven isn't gonna be Capitalism; what will you tell your Lord when he enacts a Socialist Program?"

I emphasized the word "socialism" in th equote above because for all its apparent similarities with its evil twin, Communism, the two are entirely different. The repub in recovery is entirely correct in that socalistic practises brought about all the quality-of-life enhancements he (or maybe she) has described and many more but implying that communism is merely "more and better" is a fallacy.

Communism's rigid ideology prohibits ANY upward mobility, even among the classes who could benefit from it the most. Under a Communist system a class may rise but individuals in it never do. Stripping the wealthy as Marxists insist as a first and critical step in society's reformation benefits no one if the confiscated wealth ends up in government pockets.
Communism makes no allowances for individual talents, initiative and abilities. All must be shared as gifts for the common good and any satisfaction the giver obtains from his or her largess comes from the self-sacrifice for that common good, expected from all, and in nothing else. The observations so many made of the old Soviet caste system's reward of favorable characteristics to those few who merited such merely points out the deficiencies in Communist theory when confronted with the realities of human nature.

And as I mentioned in an earlier post, there are those who believe the "rules" don't apply to them. For an example of what I mean, look to North Korea's ruling elite. Kim has said markets are unnecessary in a socalist society (another, by the way, who confuses "socalism" with "communism") but the extravagant lifestyles he and his court enjoy while the typical North Korean grunt-in-the-street must settle for one that is not quite enough to avoid starvation is a massive insult to socalism and everything it stands for.

All of you who believe socalism is merely communism-lite or who use the terms interchangably be aware they are not the same in the least. A shark and a dolphin look superficially alike but aren't even in the same zoological class. likewise there is a wide ideological difference between socalism and communism. As an unabashed and unashamed leftist, I support democratic socalism. I do not support the rigid doctrinaire approach to economic management that is a hallmark of all Marxist ideology.
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by Lifeson2112 September 9, 2010 2:52 PM EDT
by rightbehind September 9, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
Republicans like communism. They're trying to grow big state government. It's the old divide and conquer war tactic. So long as the states can charge property taxes we will never own our homes. That's communism. I want a federal law that says no more state or federal property taxes. Communism needs to be stopped!
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The difference is you can vote out state politicians that pass taxes like yours. My state has property taxes too and I hate it. But it is not Communism. It is up to us to vote out legislators and governors that set up property taxes.

And Republicans are not trying to grow state governments. We just want to shrink the federal government back to what is Constitutionally authorized. Deep down you know this.
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by Quantrill13 September 9, 2010 2:38 PM EDT
This is awful news to Marxist Barry Obama and his cabinet.
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by miami_don September 9, 2010 2:46 PM EDT
I think you are getting it backward. Is the TEA Party kinda republican? Whatever it is they are the ones saying the same things the Cubans are. I think think the TEA may all be fifth column commies!

Well, except Sarah. She's a Muslim. I don't think they can be commies.
by SHADOWDEW54 September 9, 2010 2:27 PM EDT
WELL DAH....Maybe when the USSR collapsed ,,thats what gave it away?
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by miami_don September 9, 2010 2:47 PM EDT
Did you mean 'Duh?"
by newsterI September 9, 2010 1:24 PM EDT
Fidel Castro: Cuban Communism Not Working"

What clued him in I wonder!
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by pdchapin September 9, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
Anybody who thinks Obama is a socialist hasn't a clue what socialism is. Ditto anybody to thinks the Republicans are fascist. By world standards, the range of political debate in this country is so narrow that the rest of the world has trouble figuring out what differences are.

Communism doesn't work because in its pure (and rarely seen) form it depends on people working for the general good, which doesn't work in the long run. Capitalism is based on fear and greed. These aren't man's noblest emotions, but they are dependable.
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by rightbehind September 9, 2010 1:44 PM EDT
Very intelligent post. Socialism and communism are two different things. If I have a say about it communism needs to be stopped. It's one thing to protect resources but it's another if the state owns every aspect of my life especially my home and land. The republicans have been busy promoting "big" state government. I for one am tired of carrying politicians and their family members double dipping retirements.
by miami_don September 9, 2010 3:29 PM EDT
by rightbehind September 9, 2010 1:44 PM EDT

Very intelligent post. Socialism and communism are two different things...for one am tired of carrying politicians and their family members double dipping retirements.

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There are a number of things liberals and conservatives agree on. This is one of them. What's good for the goose ought to be available to the flock? If the flock cannot pay for it do not do it.

I'll agree with you on this if you will agree with me that the greatest danger to our republic is lobbyis?
by inketolstoy September 9, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
Why do progressives here feel the need to defend Communism when even the Communists are giving up on it?
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by rightbehind September 9, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
Republicans like communism. They're trying to grow big state government. It's the old divide and conquer war tactic. So long as the states can charge property taxes we will never own our homes. That's communism. I want a federal law that says no more state or federal property taxes. Communism needs to be stopped!
by louiville35 September 9, 2010 1:56 PM EDT
rightbehind everyone knows communists are godless, so your point doesn't hold up.

Communists seek an all knowing all controlling entity in their lives, now where have I heard that before?
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by Quantrill13 September 9, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Barry and his entire Marxist cabinet will blink twice now. Fidel, their friend, has finally grown up in his old age. I don't think Barry ever will.
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