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AP/ August 23, 2010, 1:32 PM

Analysis: GOP Hot, Cold on the Constitution

Republican Rep. Paul Broun won his seat in Congress campaigning as a strict defender of the Constitution. He carries a copy in his pocket and is particularly fond of invoking the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

But it turns out there are parts of the document he doesn't care for - lots of them. He wants to get rid of the language about birthright citizenship, federal income taxes and direct election of senators, among others. He would add plenty of stuff, including explicitly authorizing castration as punishment for child rapists.

This hot-and-cold take on the Constitution is surprisingly common within the Republican Party, particularly among those like Broun who portray themselves as strict Constitutionalists and who frequently accuse Democrats of twisting the document to serve political aims.

Republicans have proposed at least 42 Constitutional amendments in the current Congress, including one that has gained favor recently to eliminate the automatic grant of citizenship to anyone born in the United States.

Democrats - who typically take a more liberal view of the Constitution as an evolving document - have proposed 27 amendments, and fully one-third of those are part of a package from a single member, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. Jackson's package encapsulates a liberal agenda in which everyone has new rights to quality housing and education, but most of the Democratic proposals deal with less ideological issues such as congressional succession in a national disaster or voting rights in U.S. territories.

The Republican proposals, by contrast, tend to be social and political statements, such as the growing movement to repeal the 14th Amendment's birthright citizenship. Republicans like Sen. Jeff Sessions, the lead Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, argue that immigrants are abusing the right to gain citizenship for their children, something he says the amendment's authors didn't intend.

Sessions, who routinely accuses Democrats of trying to subvert the Constitution and calls for respecting the document's "plain language," is taking a different approach with the constitution's 14th Amendment. "I'm not sure exactly what the drafters of the amendment had in mind," he said, "but I doubt it was that somebody could fly in from Brazil and have a child and fly back home with that child, and that child is forever an American citizen."

Other widely supported Republican amendments would prohibit government ownership of private companies, bar same-sex marriage, require a two-thirds vote in Congress to raise taxes, and - an old favorite - prohibit desecration of the American flag.

During the health care debate, Democratic Rep. Pete Hoekstra introduced an amendment that would allow voters to directly repeal laws passed by Congress - a move that would radically alter the United States' founding fathers' system of checks and balances.

Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann, who founded a tea party caucus in Congress honoring the growing conservative movement that focuses on Constitutional governance, wants to restrict the president's ability to sign international treaties because she fears President Barack Obama's administration might replace the dollar with some sort of global currency.

Broun, who is among the most conservative members of Congress, said he sees no contradiction in his devotion to the Constitution and his desire to rewrite parts of it. He said the country's founding fathers never imagined the size and scope of today's U.S. federal government and that he's simply resurrecting their vision by trying to amend it.

"It's not picking and choosing," he said. "We need to do a lot of tweaking to make the Constitution as it was originally intended, instead of some perverse idea of what the Constitution says and does."

The problem with such a view, says constitutional law scholar Mark Kende, is that divining what the framers intended involves subjective judgments shaded with politics. Holding up the 2nd Amendment as sacrosanct, for example, while dismissing other parts of the Constitution is "cherry picking," said Kende, director of Drake University's Constitutional Law Center.

Virginia Sloan, an attorney who directs the nonpartisan Constitution Project, agreed.

"There are a lot of people who obviously don't like income taxes. That's a political position," she said of criticism of the 16th Amendment, which authorized the modern federal income tax more than a century ago. "But it's in the Constitution ... and I don't think you can go around saying something is unconstitutional just because you don't like it."

Sloan said that while some proposals to alter the Constitution have merit, most are little more than posturing by politicians trying to connect with voters.

"People are responding to the politics of the day, and that's not what the framers intended," she said. "They intended exactly the opposite - that the Constitution not be used as a political tool."

The good news, Sloan and Kende said, is that such proposals rarely go anywhere.

Since the country's founding more than 200 years ago, just 27 have survived the arduous amendment process, and 10 of those came in the initial Bill of Rights.

Only two have come in the past 40 years, and both avoided ideology. One, ratified in 1971, lowered the voting age to 18; the other, ratified in 1992, limited Congress' ability to raise lawmakers' salaries.
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RobAla says:
Sessions, who routinely accuses Democrats of trying to subvert the Constitution and calls for respecting the document's "plain language," is taking a different approach with the constitution's 14th Amendment. "I'm not sure exactly what the drafters of the amendment had in mind," he said, "but I doubt it was that somebody could fly in from Brazil and have a child and fly back home with that child, and that child is forever an American citizen."

I am an independent, and not a member of any political party. This sounds like a perfectly good take on the 14th Amendment. This amendment was originally written to give slaves citizenship (permanent residents who were forced into this country against their will), and we have turned it into a catch all for anyone who comes into the US illegally on their own accord. I see no reason why this couldn't be clarified, as long as the required number of states agree.

As for Republicans wanting to strictly follow the US Constitution - I am all for it. It is the document that guarantees our rights as citizens. I really don't see a disconnect between clarifying the 14 Amendment and strictly following the US Constitution.
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bradkt1 replies:
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Police our borders and we don't have to screw around with the Constitution. At most, you would get 10-12 states to agree to a constitutional amendment. Meanwhile, you further divide the contry along racial lines.

Nice...very nice (sarcasm intended).
Vet_Turner replies:
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You do know bradkt1, that Obama has almost doubled the agents on the border. And you do know too that this is just a political issue drug up by the GOP to get your gander up.
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Whistlepunk says:
The discussion by various GOP players has been to "examine" the intent and wording of the 14th Amendment. When that is done, it will become evident that there is not intent or reason to grant citizenship to children of illegal aliens. It's the examination that the GOP opponents want to avoid.
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bradkt1 replies:
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You are NOT going to get 38 states to agree to change the 14th Amendment. This is just a ploy by conservatives to fire up their political base.

These so-called "constitutionalists" are all for the Constitution until it doesn't suit their political agenda. Then they want to change it.

No sale!
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One of the intents of the 14th Amendment was to make one's citizenship independent of their parents. It didn't matter what citizenship your parents had. All that matters was if you were born here, you were a citizen, period.
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radicalc-2009 says:
Most in the Tea Party movement along with a majority in America both Democrats and Republicans actually love the Constitution and the intent of our founders for America.

The Spin... This article tries to say that those who would like to change parts of the constitution are the same as those who ignore it and run roughshod over it and it's original intent.

These kinds of associations are everywhere in the MSM to make pointless points.

Pointless articles like this are why people are turned off by CBS and the others.
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rwsmith29456 says:
The Constitution evolves and I'm sure it isn't finished getting new ammendments, but such wholesale changes? Nah.
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jaykay3141 says:
I am in ABSOLUTE AWE of the superpowers possessed by members of the far right. Not only can they travel back in time they can actually get INSIDE THE MINDS of the Founding Fathers and tell us EXACTLY what they were thinking so there can be NO QUESTION about the meaning of every word in the Constitution.

Oh, sorry. I just realized that going back 230-odd years shouldn't be such a stretch for people who can talk directly to God and know precisely what He (or maybe She) is thinking.
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pensacola8-2009 says:
Tampering with the 14th amendment is a good way to die a sure political death. Voter apathy may exist in a few congressional districts where losers like Republican Rep. Paul Broun can get voted in, but the apathy doesn't last. If you don't believe me, "Does the name Newt Gingrich mean anything?" His contract with America was popular until he started mouthing off and telling everyone he wanted the government to seize every baby born out of wedlock as if it was property. The contract with America crashed and burned like many other bad Republican ideas.

When someone only wants to defend their right to bear arms and forego all other rights, it reminds me of life in Afghanistan...where only men have rights, and nearly all of them own a weapon and look for a place to use it. One wealthy man like Osama Bin Laden can come in and buy the country and rule it with a fundamentalist agenda. That's Republican Rep. Paul Broun's idea for America's future.
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esq777 says:
No surprise here. For conservatives, the Constitution is sacred only when it fits their political agenda. When it doesn't, they want to change it. Luckily the difficulty in amending the Constitution prevents these cheap political opportunists from having their way.
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bradkt1 says:
If any one thing thing in the Constitution is to be changed, I say that the most important thing would be to impose term limits on Senators (2 or 3 terms) and Congressmen (5 or 6 terms).

We don't need anyone in either the House or the Senate for longer than that...they get too used to being there and start acting like they are privileged individuals who are entitled to special treatment.

As far as the rest of these proposed changes are concerned, I say to both major political parties "JUST LEAVE THE CONSTITUTION ALONE!"
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34sender replies:
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I agree... with one addition -- Campaign [finance/methodology] Rules that take the money out of the equation. In my opoinion, this would really just be strengthening the concept of "We the People" that is at the basis of the Representative Republic the Constitution created.
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kansas1946 says:
Republians for some time have had no respect for the constitution. They have proposed more amendments than anyone. I support the 2nd amendment but I also support the rest of it. Adding amendments to the constitution should be taken very seriously and never in the history of the constitution have rights been taken away, only added to correct imbalances. I am frustrated with the illegal immigration problem myself and want our borders secured, but I would have to think long and hard about changing our birthright.
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nearl451 replies:
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Republicans largely support one clause in the 2nd amendment and not much else.
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34sender says:
The article above isn't "spin".

It makes a very clear point and uses (verifiable) documentation. I can understand why the FoxNewsChannel (et al "conservative only allowed here" media/websites/chain e-mails) sychophants have a problem with it. They are so used to being fed regular doses of lies, misinformation and distortion -- the truth just doesn't get absorbed in their [mental] digestive systems.

When an elected official picks and chooses what they will uphold in the US Constitution and an entire political party supports changing parts of is based entirely on their own ideology, that is when the document is being trampled, not when someone you didn't vote for -- but won the election[s] as per the US Constitution's prescribed majority-creating procedures -- does something you don't agree with... get that straight please.
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