July 30, 2010 6:44 AM

AZ Immigration Ruling Deals Blow to other States

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(CBS/ AP)  States that had been watching Arizona's immigration law in hopes of copying it received a rude awakening when a judge put most of the measure on hold and agreed with the Obama administration's core argument that immigration enforcement is the role of the federal government.

The ruling marked a repudiation of the Arizona law as U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton indicated that the government has a good chance at succeeding in its argument that federal immigration law trumps state law. It was an important first-round victory for the government in a fight that may not be settled until the U.S. Supreme Court weighs in.

But opponents of the law said the ruling sends a strong message to other states hoping to replicate the law. "Surely it's going to make states pause and consider how they're drafting legislation and how it fits in a constitutional framework," Dennis Burke, the U.S. Attorney for Arizona, told The Associated Press. "The proponents of this went into court saying there was no question that this was constitutional, and now you have a federal judge who's said 'hold on, there's major issues with this bill."'

He added: "So this idea that this is going to be a blueprint for other states is seriously in doubt. The blueprint is constitutionally flawed."

Even with the court ruling, more demonstrations are expected Thursday against the new immigration law. Opponents know there will be an appeal and that their battle is not over, reports CBS News correspondent John Blackstone.

Gov. Jan Brewer called Wednesday's decision "a bump in the road" and vowed such an appeal. The key sponsor of Arizona's law, Republican Rep. Russell Pearce, said the judge was wrong and predicted that the state would ultimately win the case.

One of the biggest supporters of the law, Sheriff Joe Arpaio says he'll continue to arrest illegal immigrants and issued a sharp warning to those threatening a sit-in at his jail today, reports Blackstone.

"I am not going to have my jails held hostage," he said.

In her temporary injunction, Bolton delayed the most contentious provisions of the law, including a section that required officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws. She also barred enforcement of parts requiring immigrants to carry their papers and banned illegal immigrants from soliciting employment in public places - a move aimed at day laborers that congregate in large numbers in parking lots across Arizona. The judge also blocked officers from making warrantless arrests of suspected illegal immigrants.

"Requiring Arizona law enforcement officials and agencies to determine the immigration status of every person who is arrested burdens lawfully present aliens because their liberty will be restricted while their status is checked," said Bolton, a Clinton appointee who was assigned the seven lawsuits filed against Arizona over the law.

Other provisions that were less contentious were allowed to take effect Thursday morning, including a section that bars cities in Arizona from disregarding federal immigration laws.

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The 11th-hour ruling came just as police were preparing to begin enforcement of a law that has drawn international attention and revived the national immigration debate in a year when Democrats are struggling to hold on to seats in Congress.

The ruling was anxiously awaited in the U.S. and beyond. About 100 protesters in Mexico City who had gathered in front of the U.S. Embassy broke into applause when they learned of the ruling. They had been monitoring the news on a laptop computer. Mariana Rivera, a 36-year-old from Zacatecas, Mexico who is living in Phoenix on a work permit, said she heard the news live on a Spanish-language news program.

"I was waiting to hear because we're all very worried about everything that's happening," said Rivera, who phoned friends and family with the news. "Even those with papers, we don't go out at night at certain times there's so much fear (of police). You can't just sit back and relax."

Lawmakers or candidates in as many as 18 states say they want to push similar measures when their legislative sessions start up again in 2011. Some lawmakers pushing the legislation said they would not be daunted by the ruling and plan to push ahead in response to what they believe is a scourge that needs to be tackled.

Arizona is the nation's epicenter of illegal immigration, with more than 400,000 undocumented residents. The state's border with Mexico is awash with smugglers and drugs that funnel narcotics and immigrants throughout the U.S., and the influx of illegal migrants drains vast sums of money from hospitals, education and other services.

"We're going to have to look and see," said Idaho state Sen. Monty Pearce, a second cousin of Russell Pearce and a supporter of immigration reform in his state. "Nobody had dreamed up, two years ago, the Arizona law, and so everybody is looking for that crack where we can get something done, where we can turn the clock back a little bit and get our country back."

Kris Kobach, the University of Missouri-Kansas City law professor who helped write the law and train Arizona police officers in immigration law, conceded the ruling weakens the force of Arizona's efforts to crack down on illegal immigrants. He said it will likely be a year before a federal appeals court decides the case.

"It's a temporary setback," Kobach said. "The bottom line is that every lawyer in Judge Bolton's court knows this is just the first pitch in a very long baseball game."

In the meantime, other states like Utah will likely take up similar laws, possibly redesigned to get around Bolton's objections.

"The ruling ... should not be a reason for Utah to not move forward," said Utah state Rep. Carl Wimmer, a Republican from Herriman City, who said he plans to co-sponsor a bill similar to Arizona's next year and wasn't surprised it was blocked. "For too long the states have cowered in the corner because of one ruling by one federal judge."

The core of the government's case is that federal immigration law trumps state law - an issue known as "pre-emption" in legal circles and one that dates to the founding of America. In her ruling, Bolton pointed out five portions of the law where she believed the federal government would likely succeed on its claims.

The Justice Department argued in court that the law was unconstitutional and that allowing states to push their own measures would lead to a patchwork of immigration laws across the nation and disrupt a carefully balanced approach crafted by Congress.

Arizona argues that the federal government has failed to secure the border, and that it has a right to take matters into its own hands.

For now, the federal government has the upper-hand in the dispute, by virtue of the strength of its arguments and the precedent on the pre-emption issue. The Bush administration successfully used the pre-emption argument to win consumer product cases, and judges in other jurisdictions have looked favorably on the argument in immigration disputes.

"This is clearly a significant victory for the Justice Department and a defeat for the sponsors of this law," said Peter Spiro, a constitutional law professor at Temple University who has studied immigration law extensively. "They will not win on this round of appeals. They'll get a shot after a trial and a final ruling by Judge Bolton."

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by lilac5220 August 5, 2010 12:10 PM EDT
It never ceases to amaze me when people think they know what a Christian should say and/or do...The fact of the matter is...Christians are people who believe Jesus Christ died for their sins, have been forgiven, and have an eternal home waiting for them with their creator. They also TRY to live a life pleasing to the Lord...notice I said TRY...we are all human, not perfect, so please quite acting like you are the know it all about what a christian should be like. How many times will it take for you to keep repeating yourself over and over on "what a good Christian would do" to convince yourself that you are intelligent? And what does your input have to do with the article anyway? Again...intelligence.
There's always someone that wants to turn everything into a religious debate because they think they know what they are talking about. Do you have anything INTELLIGENT to say pertaining to this article?
I didn't think so...
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by formrusmcsgt July 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
Evenin' slow, mort.....
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by slow-news-day July 30, 2010 9:03 PM EDT
Howdy, Sarge - hope you're well this evening!

What's your take on this law - more of a fiscl issue (for AZ), a racial profiling issue, or a Constitutional issue?

I feel like more should have been done for decades, ever since Reagan granted amnesty to 4 million illegals. I would have thought that then would have been a *great* time to discourage illegal entry, whether from our borders, our ports, or from overstaying visas. Here we are almost 25 years later with the same problem!

Nice, effective gov't ;)
by formrusmcsgt July 30, 2010 8:46 PM EDT
Judgment Blocking Controversial Parts of New Law Will Likely Give Pause to States Hoping to Follow Similar Blueprint
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As it should.
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by slow-news-day July 30, 2010 6:31 PM EDT
by USA_is_back July 29, 2010 7:39 PM EDT
by Mortar_29 July 29, 2010 7:34 PM EDT
I said you voted for Bush twice to use your tactic against you. It is a debate tactic to take the tactics of your opponent and use it on them.

Thus, yyour lies were turned back on you.
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LIES, Mort. It was untrue. You willing said something you knew was untrue (LIE). You just trying to excuse bad behavior. Breaking the 9th commandment and not even repentant, just denying. What a good Christian you are Mort. NOT! God is moving himself WAY down on your list Mort. He's embarassed for you.
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by Mortar_29 July 29, 2010 7:41 PM EDT
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Either with debating, or with God. I could start tomorrow using another debate tactic with you, and most likely, you would fall for that also.

Slow would almsot certainly fall for it.

Since neither of you are serious about discussing the issues on here, it is just fun to play with you.

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Lying is not a "debate tactic", Mortar - it's just lying.
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by slow-news-day July 30, 2010 6:29 PM EDT
by Mortar_29 July 29, 2010 7:43 PM EDT
Again I was using his lies against him. You see, when a liar such as Slow shows up, he doesnt like it when lies are told about him. He hates to have his tactics used against him. You should have seen his head explode sometimes. It was funny!

by slow-news-day July 29, 2010 7:44 PM EDT
"by Mortar_29
Again I was using his lies against him. You see, when a liar such as Slow shows up, he doesnt like it when lies are told about him. He hates to have his tactics used against him. You should have seen his head explode sometimes. It was funny!"


I haven't lied about you, Mortar. But thank you for finally admitting you enjoy lying about me.
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by shierp July 30, 2010 5:06 PM EDT
by variablespanner July 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT
Answers.com indicates the Supreme Court has the option to be court of original jurisdiction and not a REQUIREMENT to be the court of original jurisdiction. It also indicates there are up to around 5 cases a year that are accepted for this treatment and they usually involve disputes BETWEEN STATES (apparently because there would be an appearance of advantage if the trial was held in district court in either state).

http://www.answers.com/topic/appellate-jurisdiction
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But in the constitution, they are not given the option to pass on a case where it is between the U.S. government and any state. What is the justification for not obeying the constitution?
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by shierp July 30, 2010 5:19 PM EDT
I guess that since it says "shall" have original juridiction, and not "must" have original jurisdiction, that they can designate a lower court to hear the case. Kind of goes against the intent it would seem.
by shierp July 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT
The constitution specifically states that only the supreme court can hear a case in which the U.S. government is suing a state. Article 3 section 2 says that the supreme court has "original" jurisdiction. All other suits brought by others may be tried in lesser courts, but, the federal government can't sue in a lesser court than the supreme court. Would anyone with any legal knowledge please respond to why this requirement is being ignored and why it wouldn't apply in this case, please?
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by retm-w July 30, 2010 4:34 PM EDT
Hey Obama's a lawyer, maybe he could answer your question.
by shierp July 30, 2010 4:45 PM EDT
Take a look. Judge Bolton has no legal right to hear this case.
by cmdegolier July 30, 2010 2:36 PM EDT
Maybe Arizona needs to send obama a bill for what illegals cost the state in medical, education, imprisonment, extra law enforcement, food stamps, welfare, hud housings. If obama doesn't want to the government to enforce the laws and he won't let Arizona enforce the laws, then he should have to pay.
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by ariz_1944 July 30, 2010 8:29 AM EDT
Seeing as how Sheriff Joe Arpaios folks came to America from another country, MAYBE someone should check and see if his parents and / or grand parents met ALL REQUIREMENTS for admission to the USA, and did they tell the truth in ALL paperworh they filled out to become Americans? NOT saying they did not, but looking at his history of deciding how he will inforce the "LAW" perhaps this would be worth looking into! In the past we have often seen that those yelling and screaming the loudest have often been the ones who DO NOT want people digging into their past!
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by Mortar_29 July 29, 2010 7:52 PM EDT
Wow...thank God. Slow left! Look at all of his posts to me, and I wasnt even talking to him. I never said one word to him in this exchange and the guy just kept responding. It is funny.

Usa, here's the deal. I will no longer use your lies against you. But, instead, I will call out your lies if you continue to tell them. Fair enough?

I could have easily just listed them before and not played around with you...but it was more fun to try to get you to go ape like Slow.

So, as of this point...I will no longer use this tactic. I hope you can actually want to come in here and just debate some issues. That way, no tactics are needed.

Slow on the otherhand is incapable of such.
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by Mortar_29 July 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT
But, as I said before usa, you didnt fall for a lot of what I did like Slow did. That is to your credit.
by areuforreal July 30, 2010 4:59 PM EDT
y Mortar_29 July 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT
But, as I said before usa, you didnt fall for a lot of what I did like Slow did. That is to your credit.


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Childish, How old are you Mort? Grow Up. You do not debate any issue. You act like a undisciplined child. Maybe you should let the Adults talk now, and go to your room. We will call you when supper is ready. That is how we deal with misbehaving children like you.
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