July 21, 2010 1:55 PM

Debunking the Journolist "Conspiracy"

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(The New Republic)  Jonathan Chait is a senior editor at The New Republic.

I've written before about Journolist, a liberal email list that conservatives have claimed was the center of a liberal media conspiracy but in reality was anything but.

The Daily Caller, a conservative website, has a new story claiming to have obtained evidence that Journolist was everything conservatives feared: the epicenter of a deep liberal plot to control media discourse. "It's everything you may have suspected," comments an excited Sarah Palin. "It is no less corrupt than the comically propagandistic Fox News and the lock-step orthodoxy on the partisan right in journalism - but it is nonetheless corrupt," asserts Andrew Sullivan.

The story revolves around two email threads. I've reviewed them both, and it utterly belies the wild account in the Daily Caller and the even wilder reactions by Palin, Sullivan and the like. The first thread came on the heels of a Democratic primary debate in Pennsylvania, in which the moderators almost completely ignored public policy and asked both candidates a series of questions revolving around Barack Obama's alleged lack of patriotism or American-ness. Some members of the list, put off by the ABC News team's questions, decided to write a letter expressing their umbrage.

A couple of points pertain.

First, the Daily Caller notes, "Journolist members signed the statement and released it April 18." This is literally true but probably gives readers the impression that all of Journolist signed the letter. In fact, 41 people signed the letter, out of 400 people on Journolist. In other words, Journolist was a vehicle for them to network with each other. This was not an effort "by Journolist." Most people on Jounolist had nothing to do with it.

Second, the letter was hardly an example of secret message coordination. It resulted in an open letter. Everybody who agreed with the sentiment signed their name to it and published it. It was a completely transparent action. The Daily Caller breathlessly describes it like so: "a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate." But opinion journalists organizing a petitition is not a radical step. Now, it's true that some members of the list who don't engage in political activism, like me among many others, felt a little uncomfortable with the email list being used to organize a political activity. Soon thereafter Ezra Klein, the list organizer, instructed people not to use the list to organize petitions.

The second email thread is actually even weaker. Chris Hayes, a writer for the Nation, posted a message arguing that the attack on Jeremiah Wright was part of a concerted conservative smear campaign and that the issue did not merit attention. Hayes' argument was immediately met with sharp disagreement. The Daily Caller does not quote any of the emails taking on Hayes. In fact, the very next one, by Rich Yeselson, argued:

"Chris, we should make usable distinctions even when--especially when--the Right doesn't"

"Larry Lessig isn't Jeremiah Wright. You can condemn one and defend the other.  I don't want to carry Rev. Wright's baggage--I'm happy to carry Larry Lessig's and the Obama staffer.  I don't think much of Bill Ayers, but, in that case, I'm happy to uphold the principle of not indulging in guilt by association."

"We make distinctions--they smear."

And Ed Kilgore chimed in:

"First of all, we all do know and understand the importance of combatting reactionary or partisan-Republican media "frames" of contemporary events and their significance.  And we know their power to influence public perceptions and political outcomes.  But it's equally important to acknowledge that politics isn't just about "frames" and narratives and memes and noise. Underneath it all is a little thing called Objective Reality (pace the post-modernist denial of same), which sometimes survives all the distortions. And it's at least arguable that the Jeremiah Wright controversy, for all the politically-motivated distortions and exaggerations of it, is at least marginally "real" in the sense that it raises legitimate issues about Barack Obama's view of his community, his country, his God, and how they all relate to each other.  I think he's already addressed those issues, and probably will do so again, in ways that make me proud to have the opportunity to listen to him.  But this isn't just a matter of "fighting" or "surrendering" to the Vast Right Wing Machine. Similarly, I don't think we have an obligation to express total solidarity with anyone attacked by the Right." (Both have given me permission to repost.)

Numerous other posts made the same point. A few of the more left-wing writers on the list, including Spencer Ackerman, agreed with Hayes. In other words, what followed was... an argument! The Daily Caller explains, "Several members of the list disagreed with Ackerman - but only on strategic grounds." This was because Ackerman's contribution came late in the argument and was ignored by everybody, and because Ackerman was in the habit of writing wild, bombastic things that people usually didn't feel like responding to. (It wasn't a secret -- you could read his various blogs!) The implication of the Daily Caller's description -- that the email thread consisted of general agreement -- is completely false.

Now, you could say that Hayes' post was an attempt at message coordination if you define the term very loosely. Here was a writer saying that a story did not merit attention. Since he emailed a lot of other writers, his attempt to persuade them that the Wright story didn't merit attention could be seen as an attempt to get liberals to stop writing about Wright. But of course, this would also be true of anybody who suggested that a particular topic merited more or less attention. It's the same as if you ventured such an opinion at a party, or in a published article.

More importantly, Hayes' argument fell almost completely flat, and there's no evidence that anybody decided to stop writing about Wright. Ezra Klein, the organizer of Journolist, wrote a blog post about Wright the next day.

Let me make a couple concluding points. First, this conspiratorial analysis of Journolist utterly misses the nature of the thing. It was like a bar you could go to and talk, or argue, with a bunch of people with whom you had something in common. But the group as a whole did not jointly participate. Almost every discussion was limited to a small percentage of the group that was interested in the topic. Most people ignored most of the topics. To pick out some quote and say that nobody disagreed, and thus to imply that everybody agreed, is very much like quoting something somebody said in a bar and implying that everybody else in the bar must have thought the same thing. There was no expectation of general agreement. Most of the topics were trivial, and when they weren't, people argued frequently.

The conversations were "secret" for the same reason my discussions around the water cooler and in the halls are secret: people were tossing off casual reactions that they didn't deem worthy of publication: half-baked ideas, gossip, off-the-cuff reactions, chatter about sports or television.

Second, you might wonder why the Daily Caller described the email chain it obtained, and didn't publish the chain. I can't answer that definitely. I suspect, though, that the editors realized that publishing the whole chain would contradict the conspiratorial descriptions that make the article so apparently lurid. They are painting a picture of a secret coordination medium among mainstream journalists, when the reality is an argument between moderate and left-wing journalists.


The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.




By Jonathan Chait:
Reprinted with permission from The New Republic.

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by bankersvox July 28, 2010 10:51 AM EDT
When Stephenopolis asked the tough question in 2008, he will vilified, and the "plan" was set to keep Rev Wright, off the radar by the Majors, and that is what happened.

Similarly, the LA Times has a video of Obama and PLO terrorist leader yukking it up at a dinner, but has REFUSED to release it,

What also comes through is the HATE and VILE of the LEFT.

The point is, the MEDIA is a propaganda wing for the LEFT. Thank God for FOX and TALK RADIO.
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by Tinkerthinker July 23, 2010 9:19 PM EDT
Jonathan Chait.. I saw the name on the list of journolist... so tell me Mr Chait, why the hell would anyone in their right mind believe you now? or ever? You and your pals are disgusting, just go away!
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by sjc_1 July 23, 2010 1:24 AM EDT
It would be nice if these journalists could spell "journalist" NOT Journolist.
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by bothsidesnow July 24, 2010 12:25 PM EDT
Ha ha, ha ha ha, ha ha. You don't get it. Ha ha. Heaven help us all.
by dante99654 July 22, 2010 7:27 PM EDT
Mr. Chait is a fish in the ocean of Leftist hive-mind. He would only notice the water if, somehow, he flopped up on the beach. On second thought, maybe he already has flopped up on a beach now. His article is a bunch of thrashing around (mouth a panicked "O" and gills flapping) and the air outside of hive-mind apparently is toxic to him.
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by Shrike805 July 22, 2010 1:34 PM EDT
More propaganda from the same incestuous and insidious cretins who are guilty by association because they all allowed this to continue by not standing up against it.
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by gthog July 22, 2010 12:13 PM EDT
Wow, one of the liars lying about himself and his cohorts - I guess that clears it all up.

I wonder if CBS would allow the space to someone if there was a similar list of Fox reporters and reporters from...oh wait, there aren't any other outlets that aren't liberal.
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by myth1958 July 22, 2010 12:12 PM EDT
Mr Chait gives us his usual well-crafted work, dissecting yet another topical issue with aplomb. But really, what do the right-wingers, left-wingers and journalists on Journolist have to fret? If free and open discussions about political matters aren't cool any more, and ought to be curtailed - are we in the same country I woke up in? If actual journalists can't stand a little scrutiny for the thing they do at work - write - then get out of the kitchen, boys. So the opposition is making a mountain from molehills. Big deal.
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by jc429j3 July 22, 2010 11:05 AM EDT
The people on the right are complaining about liberal bias.....I guess what Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, and that all american woman Malkin do is so nonpartisan. They are on the air everyday distorting everything to get the liberals, but I guess thats ok. It is only bad when they are proven wrong.
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by 6591Hou July 22, 2010 12:12 PM EDT
Whenever a journalist, not a talk show mouthpiece, omits facts in order to present their story - they rewrite their story and it no longer represents objective reporting (which is what reporters supposedly aspire to). The old who, what, when, where, why, and how was a template for reporting everything associated with a story.
Talk show mouthpieces are clearly biased and readily identified as being so, but a 'reporter' who manipulates the facts - or decides to write stories about one topic and refuses to write about another - in order to manipulate public opinion, they're much more difficult to readily identify and that's where the danger is to our free press as a credible institution.
by mlschafer7 July 21, 2010 11:52 PM EDT
While rays of light still remain, investigative reporting and quality journalism are ceding to increasing amounts of press grandstanding, press fraternizing, press posturing, and press aspirations for fame. This self-destruction of America?s Fourth Estate should worry all citizens. In many cases, the press is becoming the celebrity, not the watchdog. For example, the Daily Beast, a relatively young Internet news magazine, recently ran with a story entitled ?BPs Gulf Oil Spill: The Hunks,? which featured the ?most attractive? male correspondents covering the spill.

The Journolist, celebrity journalists, partisan press antagonizing each other and not the government?it is all a sign of the rise of the new celebrity press. A press that is concerned more about its image and its position in the political hierarchy it is supposed to be monitoring than it is about the people. Indeed, it seems what American journalism needs is another I.F. Stone, another Ernie Pyle, another Seymour Hersh. Instead, we are stuck with Keith Olberman, Sean Hannity, and the myriad of other ?celebrity journalists? who seek fame, not fact.

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by riki_m1 July 21, 2010 10:46 PM EDT
This is an dishonesh article...no mention of one of the journolist encouraging the group to throw Karl rove and other conservative - "who cares" as 'Racist'. What a shame
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