Illegal Immigrants Leaving Arizona Over New Law
Many of the cars that once stopped in the Home Depot parking lot to pick up day laborers to hang drywall or do landscaping now just drive on by.
Arizona's sweeping immigration bill allows police to arrest illegal immigrant day laborers seeking work on the street or anyone trying to hire them. It won't take effect until summer but it is already having an effect on the state's underground economy.
"Nobody wants to pick us up," Julio Loyola Diaz says in Spanish as he and dozens of other men wait under the shade of palo verde trees and lean against a low brick wall outside the east Phoenix home improvement store.
Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. illegally and directs police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants.
Supporters of the law hope it creates jobs for thousands of Americans.
"We want to drive day labor away," says Republican Rep. John Kavanagh, one of the law's sponsors.
An estimated 100,000 illegal immigrants have left Arizona in the past two years as it cracked down on illegal immigration and its economy was especially hard hit by the Great Recession. A Department of Homeland Security report on illegal immigrants estimates Arizona's illegal immigrant population peaked in 2008 at 560,000, and a year later dipped to 460,000.
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The law's supporters hope the departure of illegal immigrants will help dismantle part of the underground economy here and create jobs for thousands of legal residents in a state with a 9.6 percent unemployment rate.
Kavanagh says day labor is generally off the books, and that deprives the state of much-needed tax dollars. "We'll never eliminate it, just like laws against street prostitution," he says. "But we can greatly reduce the prevalence."
Day laborers do jobs including construction, landscaping and household work for cash paid under the table. Those jobs have been harder to find since the housing industry collapsed here several years ago.
Standing near potted trees and bushes for sale at the Home Depot, Diaz, 35, says he may follow three families in his neighborhood who moved to New Mexico because of the law. He says a friend is finding plenty of work in Dallas.
Diaz says he has too much to lose by staying - he's supporting a wife and infant son back home in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, across the border from El Paso, Texas.
"They depend on me to survive," he says. "I'm not going to wait for police to come and arrest me."
Jose Armenta, a 33-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico's western coast, is already planning to move to Utah within the next 20 days because of a combination of the economy and the new law.
"A lot of people drive by," he says as he watched nearby cars speeding past, "and they yell, 'Hey, go back to Mexico!"'
Analysts say it's too soon to tell what lasting effects the law will have on the state's underground work force, which also includes baby sitters, maids and cooks.
A study of immigrants in Arizona published in 2008 found that non-citizens, mostly in the country illegally, held an estimated 280,000 full-time jobs. The study by researcher Judith Gans at the University of Arizona examined 2004 data, finding that they contributed about 8 percent of the state's economic output, or $29 billion.
Losing hundreds of thousands of unskilled laborers wouldn't hurt the state's economy in the short term, but it could limit the economy's ability to grow once it recovers, says Marshall Vest, director of the Economic and Business Research Center at the University of Arizona's Eller College of Management.
Legal workers who are willing to take any available job now will become more choosy if the unemployment rate falls back to low levels seen before the recession hit.
"That's really the question, as to whether the existing population is willing to work those (low-level) jobs," Vest says. "I think economics provides the answer. If job openings have no applicants, then businesses need to address that by raising the offered wage."
Some illegal immigrants, however, intended to stick around.
Natalia Garcia, 35, from Mexico City, says she and her husband - a day laborer - will stay so their daughters - both born in the U.S. - can get a good education and learn English. The couple have been living in Arizona illegally for the last 10 years.
"Mexico doesn't have a lot of opportunities," she says. "Here, we work honestly, and we have a better life."
Olga Sanchez, 32, from southern Mexico, lives in Phoenix illegally with her two brothers, who are 21 and 17. While the youngest boy is in high school, all three work and send money back home to their parents.
"This law is very bad for us," says Sanchez, who gets about $250 a week cleaning three houses. "I'm afraid of what's going to happen."
She says the family is going to wait and see if the law takes effect and what the fallout will be before deciding whether to leave. The law is certain to be challenged in court; Phoenix, Tucson and Flagstaff already are considering lawsuits.
"All I ask from God is a miracle for us to stay here and work," she says.
AP Arizona's sweeping immigration bill allows police to arrest illegal immigrant day laborers seeking work on the street or anyone trying to hire them. It won't take effect until summer but it is already having an effect on the state's underground economy.
"Nobody wants to pick us up," Julio Loyola Diaz says in Spanish as he and dozens of other men wait under the shade of palo verde trees and lean against a low brick wall outside the east Phoenix home improvement store.
Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. illegally and directs police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants.
Supporters of the law hope it creates jobs for thousands of Americans.
"We want to drive day labor away," says Republican Rep. John Kavanagh, one of the law's sponsors.
An estimated 100,000 illegal immigrants have left Arizona in the past two years as it cracked down on illegal immigration and its economy was especially hard hit by the Great Recession. A Department of Homeland Security report on illegal immigrants estimates Arizona's illegal immigrant population peaked in 2008 at 560,000, and a year later dipped to 460,000.
More on the immigration debate:
Obama: Congress May Not Tackle Immigration Soon
Fury over Immigrant Law
Will Other States Follow Arizona's Lead on Immigration?
Washington Unplugged: Politics of Immigration Fight
How Arizona Became Center of Immigration Debate
Mexico Issues Travel Alert over New Arizona Law
Karl Rove Speaks Out Against Arizona Immigration Law
Obama Again Hits Arizona Immigration Bill
Holder: U.S. May Fight Arizona Immigration Law
The law's supporters hope the departure of illegal immigrants will help dismantle part of the underground economy here and create jobs for thousands of legal residents in a state with a 9.6 percent unemployment rate.
Kavanagh says day labor is generally off the books, and that deprives the state of much-needed tax dollars. "We'll never eliminate it, just like laws against street prostitution," he says. "But we can greatly reduce the prevalence."
Day laborers do jobs including construction, landscaping and household work for cash paid under the table. Those jobs have been harder to find since the housing industry collapsed here several years ago.
Standing near potted trees and bushes for sale at the Home Depot, Diaz, 35, says he may follow three families in his neighborhood who moved to New Mexico because of the law. He says a friend is finding plenty of work in Dallas.
Diaz says he has too much to lose by staying - he's supporting a wife and infant son back home in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, across the border from El Paso, Texas.
"They depend on me to survive," he says. "I'm not going to wait for police to come and arrest me."
Jose Armenta, a 33-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico's western coast, is already planning to move to Utah within the next 20 days because of a combination of the economy and the new law.
"A lot of people drive by," he says as he watched nearby cars speeding past, "and they yell, 'Hey, go back to Mexico!"'
Analysts say it's too soon to tell what lasting effects the law will have on the state's underground work force, which also includes baby sitters, maids and cooks.
A study of immigrants in Arizona published in 2008 found that non-citizens, mostly in the country illegally, held an estimated 280,000 full-time jobs. The study by researcher Judith Gans at the University of Arizona examined 2004 data, finding that they contributed about 8 percent of the state's economic output, or $29 billion.
Losing hundreds of thousands of unskilled laborers wouldn't hurt the state's economy in the short term, but it could limit the economy's ability to grow once it recovers, says Marshall Vest, director of the Economic and Business Research Center at the University of Arizona's Eller College of Management.
Legal workers who are willing to take any available job now will become more choosy if the unemployment rate falls back to low levels seen before the recession hit.
"That's really the question, as to whether the existing population is willing to work those (low-level) jobs," Vest says. "I think economics provides the answer. If job openings have no applicants, then businesses need to address that by raising the offered wage."
Some illegal immigrants, however, intended to stick around.
Natalia Garcia, 35, from Mexico City, says she and her husband - a day laborer - will stay so their daughters - both born in the U.S. - can get a good education and learn English. The couple have been living in Arizona illegally for the last 10 years.
"Mexico doesn't have a lot of opportunities," she says. "Here, we work honestly, and we have a better life."
Olga Sanchez, 32, from southern Mexico, lives in Phoenix illegally with her two brothers, who are 21 and 17. While the youngest boy is in high school, all three work and send money back home to their parents.
"This law is very bad for us," says Sanchez, who gets about $250 a week cleaning three houses. "I'm afraid of what's going to happen."
She says the family is going to wait and see if the law takes effect and what the fallout will be before deciding whether to leave. The law is certain to be challenged in court; Phoenix, Tucson and Flagstaff already are considering lawsuits.
"All I ask from God is a miracle for us to stay here and work," she says.
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San Jose city Councilwoman Madison Nguyen drafted a condemnation letter of the new Arizona immigration law and the San Jose City Council passed the resolution.
Councilwoman Madison Nguyen and the majority of the city council are shortsighted. Councilwoman Madison Nguyen and the majority of the city council fail to realize that short-term actions have long-term consequences. By passing the Arizona condemnation resolution, it is laying down an implied welcome mat to the illegal immigrants from across the states, not just Arizona.
Local politicians in the state legislature and the US Congress from this district love illegal immigrants as well. James Beall, who is forever running for something, went on record supporting illegal immigrants with benefits.
Remember James Beall when he was Chairman of the Santa Clara County Board of Supervisor left a huge deficit only to get promoted to the state legislature. He promised an end to Homelessness in 10 years. How's that going Assemblyman Beall?
Ken Pittman says, "Sacremento Assemblyman Jim Beall has proposed a $0.30 per bottle tax on the consumers of beer to help pay for Medi-Cal which is absorbing billions of dollars in costs to medically treat the millions of illegal aliens there today." So you see, all you illegal immigrants have a friend in Santa Clara County.
Congressman Honda is against Arizona's immigration bill because he is afraid of racial profiling. Yet, 100,000 illegal immigrants left Arizona before the bill became law, so ZERO racial profiling took place Congressman Honda. And the law works, Congressman Honda: 100,000 illegal immigrants left Arizona according to the Dept of Homeland Security. Welcome to San Jose all you illegal immigrants fleeing Arizona!
But to all the illegal immigrants in the United States, please come to San Jose, California as this is a safe Democratic district that will never be taken over by any other party, so you can come here. And feel free to use all the social services because social service aid organizations encourage "undocumented residents" to use city services.
And as I understand it, if you need medical attention, you just go to the emergency room at the county hospital, i.e., Valley Medical Center (VMC), and they will treat you. I even heard radio commercials advertising for new clients, stating, "Ability to pay is not an issue."
You only have to be a resident of Santa Clara County to get VMC services, so what more could you ask for? Local elected leaders that welcome illegal immigrants, a great climate, free or reduced fee health care, and access to city social services. What a deal! Come one, come all!
P.S. All you rich wage earners and taxpayers in San Jose, I hope you have a stomach for increased taxes, fees, fines, special assessments, fewer fire fighters, shorter library hours, short-staffed community centers, and higher rents with increased illegal immigrant demand for housing.
P.S.S. Meanwhile, you will never get a straight answer from any elected Democrat as to the number of illegal immigrants in San Jose or what it costs San Jose.
Lee Ellak
San Jose, CA
What about everybody that lives so comfortable because of all the MEXICANS, ILLEGALS or ******** as some of you call them. They come and do the DIRTY JOBS that MOST AMERICANS are to lazy to do. They cook for you at most restaurants, clean even your house, pick fruits and vegetables in the hot sun, build the nice homes you live in, clean the gardens in parks, and a lot of other jobs that AMERICANS are to GOOD for.
They deserve to be here. So instead of finding reasons to complain because they are ILLEGAL we should try to find a solution to help them be here LEGALLY. Even if it is by getting a work permit.
ALL the Japanese, Korean & Chinese come over here and we can't wait to give them nice homes, businesses, bank accounts and even nice cars. Someone from Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala come over and it's ILLEGAL, they are breaking the law. What is wrong with this picture?
What ever happened to "And liberty and Justice to ALL" ?
If we continue allowing illegal's to ignore our laws America will be in the same condition as Mexico, the place that they are fleeing from.
I also think they should make a law that illegals having babies here in the U.S., the babies should NOT have the right to become U.S. Citizens... If their Parents are ILLEGAL the babies should also be ILLEGAL..
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