March 3, 2010 4:34 PM

Reconciliation Could Spark Senate Chaos

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(National Review Online)  As the Left and Right jockey for the political high ground on the use of the controversial - and convoluted - reconciliation process, both sides are obscuring a simple reality: If the Democrats try to use reconciliation to finish a bill as unwieldy, unpopular, and unprecedented as this one, it will set off a parliamentary battle that could make the maneuvers in advance of Christmas Eve look like a study of legislative efficiency.

As Sen. Judd Gregg (R., N.H.) told NRO, "I don't think the prior efforts have any substantive relation at all to this effort. Sure, they have a political connection - they are both labeled 'reconciliation.' But there is no substantive connection."

Using the imagery of the hour, Gregg said that comparing the current Democratic effort to those undertaken in the past "is like comparing using a firecracker with a nuclear weapon."

To understand why the nuclear analogy holds, it should first be acknowledged that there is some truth in the Democrats' charge that Republicans are being hypocrites about the use of reconciliation. Since Reagan, the bare-majority rule has been used more often by Republican Congresses than by Democratic ones, and frequently to pass health-care legislation - CHIP and COBRA being just the two most prominent examples. But most health-care measures passed via reconciliation were incremental changes or extenders of existing programs, and, crucially, most passed with broad bipartisan support as part of larger budget reconciliation packages.

And even in those cases (such as the Bush tax cuts) where reconciliation votes were tight and partisan, the budgetary and policy issues were cut and dry. "It was a movement of rate, which is a pretty black-and-white exercise," Gregg, who vocally championed reconciliation in such cases, told NRO. "Everyone knew the impact; it's very calculable; it's clear what the implications are."

By contrast, the Democrats' health-care bill is "an exercise in changing 16 percent of the American economy," which Gregg called "the most complex policy we've ever dealt with in my time in Congress."

Gregg said that "massive unintended consequences" emanating from the bill would "affect every American in a very personal way," and that measures of such scale demand an open debate and amendment process in the Senate. "That's what the Senate is for."

Indeed, contra the enthusiasm of Democrats who believe that this last bullet in their magazine is a silver one, reconciliation is a narrow process that likes narrow bills. The more unwieldy and contentious the legislation gets, the more likely it becomes that the minority will employ parliamentary tactics that, if they aren't quite filibusters, will have the same effect.

Former Senate parliamentarian Robert Dove explains as much in an NPR interview:

NPR: What are the special rules the Senate must follow in debating and amending reconciliation legislation that contains changes to the already-approved House and Senate bills?

DOVE: Debate - that's easy: Total [Senate] debate on a reconciliation bill is limited to 20 hours. Amendments, that's much harder. There is no limit to how many you can send. And you can send amendments of whatever length and have them read.

NPR: This seems to allow much room for the minority party to delay a vote on a reconciliation bill. How might this play out?

DOVE: I can remember Senator Dole sending up, attached to an amendment, the United States Code. [The code is the compilation of every Unites States law.] That got peoples' attention. After he had gotten what he wanted, he asked for unanimous consent to dispense with the reading.

NPR: Doesn't that become a virtual filibuster?

DOVE: It becomes a way of people forcing votes on many things that senators don't want to vote on. Despite the fact that amendments [to reconciliation bills] have to be germane and cannot violate the Byrd Rule [see below], that doesn't stop senators from sending amendments that are totally out of order, and then asking for a vote on waiving the Budget Act [rules] to allow them. That vote counts as a real vote and is used against senators who can claim they were protecting the budget process, but suddenly are on record as refusing to waive [rules] to deal with Guantanamo Bay, or trying terrorists in New York City. I can imagine the list of amendments that will be sent forward.

Further convoluting the proceedings is the unique role that Vice President Biden, in his role as Senate president, could play if the Obama administration decides to go all-in. Biden could overrule the Senate parliamentarian and become the last word on the procedural matters that make or break reconciliation efforts, essentially deciding the fate of the bill. I leave it to the reader to imagine the popular and political reaction to such a move.

So in addition to the challenge of contorting what should have been a conference-committee report into a reconciliation measure, the parliamentary chaos that would surely attend to the introduction of such a measure is one of the reasons the Democrats are taking their time thinking it through.

Meanwhile, Gregg and the Republicans are loading for bear. As the senator told NRO, there are 18 separate points of order that can be deployed to challenge reconciliation proceedings, promising "some very difficult votes" for senators who want to defend the process.

"Whatever goes into the process is going to come out looking like Swiss cheese," Gregg said. "I will certainly do everything I can on that score, and I think I have a number of legislative tools at my disposal to do that."

- Daniel Foster is NRO's news editor.
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Reprinted with permission from National Review Online

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by tsigili March 9, 2010 11:45 AM EST
There is already total chaos in the Senate. It might exacerbate the situation, but it won't create it.
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by noloyalisti March 9, 2010 12:17 PM EST
This is EXACTLY what I first thought when I saw the article title.

BTW, the Obama health care reform plan will SAVE $1 trillion dollars. What conservative would be against that?

And One American acts as if our current "health" care system actually works for everyone.
by rightbehind March 6, 2010 9:12 PM EST
The republicans used reconciliation 6 times during the bush years to give tax breaks to the wealthy. The democrats go to use it once and the republicans throw a fit. It's clear the republicans will take the gloves off if they ever get control of the senate back.
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by sjc_1 March 6, 2010 5:36 PM EST
Reconciliation was started in the 70s for deficit reduction. The Republican Congress used it on tax breaks for the rich, which increased the deficit. Now Democrats want to use it for Health Care reform which the CBO says can reduce the deficit. It is like the Contract (On) American wanted term limits until the GOP gained the majority and then you did not hear about it.
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by RobAla March 6, 2010 11:56 PM EST
From what I understand, the CBO looked at the health care bill for a ten year period. Under it, the first years are filled with new taxes and fees - with no health care benefits. The benefits come in only in the latter of the first ten years. That is the only way it can reduce the deficit - by taxing the crap out of businesses and individuals. The truth of our situation, is that the current spending by Washington is not sustainable. Unless the federal government is reduced to a manageable size (requiring less spending), we are all in really deep doo-doo. We can not afford an additional $trillion plus federal program. The money simply is not there.
by j_mcdonald-2009 March 12, 2010 12:56 AM EST
RobAla -- The CBO says there will be modest deficit reductions in the first 10 years, but huge deficit reductions in the next 10 years. And if the calculations were carried forward beyond that, the deficit reductions would increase even more.

In other words, the benefits start slow and then steadily rise.
by porcine_aviator March 6, 2010 12:35 PM EST
NRO's comment reminds me of one of George Carlin's lines:

"If someone is stupid and they go senile...how can you tell?"

If the Senate is in chaos and this bill causes more chaos...will it make one rat's ... worth of difference?
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by wjksea March 5, 2010 10:41 PM EST
Corporate Media = Pravda
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by wjksea March 5, 2010 10:41 PM EST
Since Germany ended up with a better government after WWII, maybe we should have bombed the hell out of ourselves. Our economic monopoly is over. A cold reality will be sweeping over the people of this country and many will continue to blame the left or the liberals or the progressives or the democrats while the corporate government party members hunker down with the one socialized entity they value, a military to defend the corporate government and its party members.
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by wjksea March 5, 2010 10:28 PM EST
This should be absolute proof that whether you agree or disagree with a particular administration. This nation is owned by non-democratic corporate governments. The people of this nation placed democrats in office because it appeared that there were no checks on right wing extremism. Those power continue to control the message.
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by noloyalisti March 5, 2010 8:25 PM EST
These dumb NRO idiots who spend their time frightening their idiot fellow conservatives and don't even know what Marxism, socialism or fascism is and they don't care.

They just puke their mindless garbage propaganda out because it satisfies their little pea-sized lizard brains.
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by bobb1time March 7, 2010 6:18 PM EST
Most of us realize that there are the ignorant among us who are just absent the facts. Only an Idiot would call others the same.
by ll2owt March 5, 2010 8:21 PM EST
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by wjksea March 5, 2010 10:34 PM EST
It really is tough to make sense of insanity isn't it? Fox is owned by a billionaire Aussie and the largest investor in Fox is a Saudi Prince. This is the news source of middle america, many whose wage is good if it's 30-40k per year. Pathetic.
by steeepe March 5, 2010 8:07 PM EST
Never take at face value ANYTHING from the National Review.
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