March 3, 2010 3:14 PM

Blacks Crucial to D.C. Gay Marriage Debate

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(AP)  Gay and lesbian couples will soon be able to marry in Washington, but the debate over same-sex marriage has sounded different here, with references to interracial marriage and Martin Luther King.

Over the past year, both sides have courted the support of Washington's black community, a majority of the city's 600,000 residents and one traditionally perceived as opposed to same-sex marriage.

"In D.C., outreach to African-Americans wasn't part of the campaign. It was the campaign," said Michael Crawford, the leader of a pro-same-sex union group, D.C. For Marriage.

Crawford, who is black, said other residents weren't ignored, but his group and others weighed the city's racial makeup in planning their message. That made the debate here different than in other places that have considered gay marriage - places like California, where about 7 percent of residents are black, or Maine, where 1 percent are. Voters in both states struck down gay marriage laws.

In Washington, gay couples are expected to be able to apply for marriage licenses beginning Wednesday - but opponents are still challenging it in court.

To speak to voters in D.C., supporters drew parallels to Martin Luther King Jr.'s advocacy for equal rights. They said same-sex marriage bans would one day seem as ridiculous as the interracial marriage bans overturned by the Supreme Court in 1967. Opponents, meanwhile, ran an anti-gay marriage ad on the radio station of Howard University, a historically black college. And both sides worked hard to curry favor with black leaders and churches.

"What's been different here is how aggressively they've come after religious leaders, how aggressively they have talked up the race issue, or I should say the civil rights issue," said Bishop Harry Jackson, a black pastor who has led opposition to the measure.

Getting black voters' support for gay marriage wasn't necessarily easy. A widely used exit poll conducted for The Associated Press during the 2008 election found 70 percent of black California voters approved of a measure banning gay marriage, compared with 49 percent of white voters. A poll in Florida, where residents voted on a similar issue that year, had comparable support from black voters, who make up about 16 percent of the state's population.

Black supporters of gay marriage in Washington disputed those numbers and argued that black voters were unfairly blamed for pushing the California measure to success. Opponents have argued the numbers were true and relevant, suggesting that D.C. voters would certainly reject gay marriage if given the opportunity.

But lawmakers, not voters, legalized gay marriage in Washington, and the measure always had the support of black D.C. Council members. Five black members on the 13-member council ultimately supported it, though the only "no" votes came from two black members in heavily black districts.

Even without a public vote, however, supporters and opponents held rallies and testified before the council. Mayor Adrian Fenty, who is bi-racial, signed the bill in a church in December with his parents looking on, saying they married when some places barred interracial marriage.

It wasn't the only time a church played a central role in discussion of the measure. Jackson, who led opposition to the measure, came to council meetings and court hearings wearing a black suit and clerical collar. His group drew up a list of religious leaders opposing the measure.

Supporters countered with their own list and a group of religious leaders co-chaired by the Rev. Dennis Wiley, co-pastor with his wife of the 500-member Covenant Baptist Church in the city. Wiley said clergy's support was crucial because congregants often look to the church for guidance when it comes to gay marriage.

"The first question many black people ask is, 'What does the Bible have to say about it?'" Wiley and his wife wrote in an opinion published by The Washington Post in December.

For now, the debate has quieted, though opponents are still pushing for the issue to go before voters. If it does, the same appeals to black residents will likely begin again.

AP
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by NowBeWithThat March 2, 2010 3:55 PM EST
"A widely used exit poll conducted for The Associated Press during the 2008 election found 70 percent of black California voters approved of a measure banning gay marriage, compared with 49 percent of white voters."
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Whenever and wherever the American people have exercised our right to be heard through the voting process, same-sex marriage has lost.

It is only through railroad legislation that gay marriage bills are passed.

Why are gays so homophobic?
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by smitvict January 18, 2011 11:56 AM EST
Your post brings a vision of George Wallace standing at the schoolhouse door. Remember, American people exercising their right to be heard and to keep the "colored children" out of the white schools.

Luckily, the "will of the people" was overruled and we now have moved a long way towards racial equality. In spite of the efforts of bigots and racists to prevent it.
by bytheway59 March 2, 2010 3:35 PM EST
marriage licenses are issued by state and local government bodies. Ther is no CHURCH in government.
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by NowBeWithThat March 2, 2010 12:38 PM EST
Black skin is the result of having more melanin which has no effect whatsoever on an individual's behavior. Sexual orientation on the other hand is one of the most profound of all human behavioral characteristics.

Comparing gay rights to the black civil rights movement is a pc gimmick to garner support for same-sex marriage. The argument doesn't hold water.

Check the stats. Majority of gays who screech the loudest for same-sex marriage are wealthy white gay males and lesbians willing to trample on the legacy of the black civil rights movement in America to get what they want.

Ironically, many of these white gays couldn't care less about black people. They're just trying to use black people to carry out the gay agenda.

Black people are smart enough to know this, and they're not having it.
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by smitvict January 18, 2011 11:52 AM EST
What a crock of bologna. Black gay men are one of the lowest forms of life in the black community. Better to be on drugs than gay. Very sad. They are called "on the downlow".

White gays work very hard to pull up our black brethren within the black community. This victory in Wash is a direct result of this effort.

Go back to thumping your bible NowBeWithThat. You and John McCain need to realize we are not in the 1950's anymore.
by cleric60 March 2, 2010 12:34 PM EST
cyclingpete....I truly regret that you were raped and all those rapists should be harshly punished. However, the theory of "the gay gene" is a modern day myth, from around the mid-late 60's.
For one reason or another you may have had a disproposition of sexual attraction to members of the same sex--childhood experiences, teenage expereinces, a strong female/mother,who desired that you were female ever since you were born and the list go on and on. But unnatural or homesexual behavior is a chose--read Romans 1:22-32.
But, I still accept you as a member of God's Family within humanity.
I condemn your rapists.
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by NowBeWithThat March 2, 2010 12:03 PM EST
by cyclingpete March 2, 2010 11:55 AM EST
"I didn't choose to get raped by a group of straight men taking turns while I begged and cried for mercy. I didn't choose this."
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Cyclingpete, you were brutalized by inhuman monsters who deserve to die for what they did to you. No, you did not choose to be brutalized any more than a girl chooses to be raped or molested. It wasn't your fault.

May you experience the peace and healing you need and deserve.
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by cyclingpete March 2, 2010 12:10 PM EST
Thanks. But I will never know peace or healing until I succeed in my destiny of absence.
by NowBeWithThat March 2, 2010 11:57 AM EST
Skin color is a benign non-behavioral characteristic while sexual orientation is the most profound human behavioral characteristic.

The attempt by white gays to equivocate same sex marriage to the black civil rights movement is a convenient but invalid argument that is especially abhorrent to blacks whose ancestors died at the end of a lynch rope next to a burning cross.

Blacks continue to experience visceral hatred, racism and blatant discrimination that white gays screeching for 'equality' have never known.
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by cyclingpete March 2, 2010 12:05 PM EST
Im sorry, did you really say that white gays have never expereinced hatred, racism, and blatant discrimination? And 'Blacks continue to expereince...." Hmm, thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. Your an idiot. You know who else has expereinced what the blacks have and do expereince...Asians, Jews, Italians, French, Canadians, honosexuals, Christians, Indians, Chinese, Mongolians, Japanese, Poles, Germans, people with blond hair, people with blue eyes, and then list goes on. So please don't make it sounds like the blacks are the only people or race ever to experience hate. Blacks do it too..and to themselves..dark skinned vs. lighter skinned, etc.
by Wolfear March 2, 2010 11:56 AM EST
Ya know... I watched my wife's baby brother grow up from the time he was 6 to now and he is 20 this year. He is gay and honestly the progression from childhood to adolecense (sp) was as normal and natural as that of any other boy. Just in his case instead of noticing little girls at age 12 or 13 it was boys. So yes, people are born and grow up gay. I realize that is hard to comprehend but it is the way it is. I am sure there are those that choose the lifestyle but I knwo in his case it wasn't a choice it just was. And to clear up one other thing. We live in Iowa and have had gay marriage here for a while and you know what??? Peopel are still married. No body has asked to marry a toster and the sanctity of marriage (and 50% divorce rate) are still in tact. Get over it.
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by cleric60 March 2, 2010 10:22 AM EST
Black people did not choose their skin-color; it is a modern-day myth that the majority of gays were born "gay"--the "gay gene"! Homosexuality or unnatural sex is a chosen lifestyle.
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by cyclingpete March 2, 2010 11:55 AM EST
Hey! I didn't choose this! I didn't choose to be harassed since I was in 2nd grade. I didn't choose to get beat up every day after schhol through middle school into high school. I didn't choose to get raped by a group of straight men taking turns while I begged and cried for mercy. I didn't choose this.
by fairthought March 2, 2010 10:05 AM EST
Gay marriage is not related to civil rights or human rights. Our humanity gives us those rights, not our sexual tendencies or any other tendecies.
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by cyclingpete March 2, 2010 11:59 AM EST
Is that really what you think? That being gay is about "sexual tendencies"? You must be from the backwoods or maybe your just inbred so your thought process isn't all there. Who are you? Oh, I bet a God fearing christian who pushe their yes THEIR beleifs on others. What education do you have regarding homosexuality? Or id it just a personal opinion?
by fairthought March 2, 2010 12:11 PM EST
cyclingpete: Why do you bring up religion or education? Marriage should NOT be redefined as any 2 people for several common sense reasons. It opens the door to endless redefining. Why not let any 3 people marry or 4 or 1,000. Marriage becomes meaningless, which will ultimately hurt the nation because marriage leads to family and the family is a basic building block of the nation.

Future citizens come about when one man and one woman get together. It is in the best interest of society that procreators should come together, stay together and share the responsibility for raising children. It is the governments business to set apart this type of procreative union or social contract as unique from any other type and give it special title and privilege because it results in new citizens.

You will ask; what about infertile couples or couples who do not want children? These are exceptions to the rule. A guiding principle, like marriage between a man & a woman, should not be redefined for everyone based on exceptions.
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