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February 6, 2010 4:28 AM

Recession Job Loss Estimate Set to Rise

(AP)  Job losses during the Great Recession have been huge and they're about to get bigger.

When the Labor Department releases the January unemployment report Friday, it will also update its estimate of jobs lost in the year that ended in March 2009. The number is expected to rise by roughly 800,000, raising the number of jobs shed during the recession to around 8 million.

The new data will help illustrate the scope of the jobs crisis. Analysts think the economy might generate 1 million to 2 million jobs this year. And they say it will take at least three to four years for the job market to return to anything like normal.

"It's going to take a long time to dig out of this hole," said Julia Coronado, senior U.S. economist at BNP Paribas.

Wall Street economists expect the January report will show a tiny increase of 5,000 jobs. That would be only the second monthly gain since the recession began. But it probably wouldn't be enough to hold down the unemployment rate, which is forecast to rise to 10.1 percent. That would match October's 26-year high. And it would be the fourth-straight month of double-digit joblessness.

The Labor Department's revisions on employment levels are done every year. They are based on unemployment insurance tax data that companies submit to states.

Jobs remain scarce even as the economy is recovering: Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation's output, has risen for two straight quarters. GDP rose by 5.7 percent in the October-December quarter, the fastest pace in six years.

But hiring is still lagging. Many economists say businesses are reluctant to add workers because it's not clear whether the recovery will continue once government stimulus measures, such as tax credits for home buyers, end.

The debate over health care reform and the scheduled expiration of some Bush administration tax cuts at the end of this year may also cause companies to restrain hiring, many economists said.

"Until some of these uncertainties from Washington get cleared up, businesses, particularly small businesses, are going to be loath to do any additional hiring," said Hank Smith, chief investment officer at Haverford Investments.

High unemployment is likely to hold back consumer spending, which has led most recoveries in the past. That's why many economists think the current rebound will be weak.

Public concern about persistent unemployment has forced President Obama and members of Congress to shift their attention to jobs and the economy and away from health care reform. The Senate will begin working Monday on legislation that would give companies a tax break for hiring new workers, Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday.

The budget plan Obama released this week projects unemployment will still be very high - 9.8 percent - by the end of this year.

Instead of adding workers, many companies are squeezing their existing work forces to produce more. Productivity rose by a seasonally adjusted 6.2 percent in the fourth quarter, the Labor Department said Thursday, above analysts' expectations of a 6 percent rise. That was the third straight quarter of sharp gains.

Productivity often increases at the end of recessions as companies ramp up output before hiring new workers. Rising productivity can raise living standards in the long run. But it can also make it easier for companies to put off adding jobs.

A separate Labor Department report on initial claims for jobless benefits said claims rose unexpectedly last week by 8,000 to 480,000. The rise in claims was the fourth in the past five weeks. It disappointed economists, who thought claims would resume a downward trend evident in the fall and early winter. The four-week average, which smooths fluctuations, rose for the third straight week to 468,750.

Most economists say claims need to fall to about 425,000 or below for a month to signal that employers are stepping up hiring.

Still, some positive signs emerged in the productivity report. Hours worked in the fourth quarter rose 1 percent. That was the first increase since the second quarter of 2007. Output rose 7.2 percent, the largest increase since the third quarter of 2003.

To continue increasing production, economists say companies will eventually have to start adding jobs again. That should bring productivity gains back down toward their long-run average of about 2.5 percent.

"You can push your workers but so far," said Anika Khan, an economist at Wells Fargo Securities. "At some point businesses have to begin to hire."

But the main question is when. The economy could begin generating net job gains as early as March, Khan said. But they won't be enough to hold down the unemployment rate. Wells Fargo expects the rate to peak at 10.5 percent in the second half of this year.

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by curse914 February 5, 2010 11:33 AM EST
by apachekid February 5, 2010 9:33 AM EST
Recession Job Loss Estimate Set to Rise ................


To be honest - The Record recession, Record inflation, Record jobless, job losses & underemployed, Record foreclosures, Record food & energy prices, Record homeless, Record deficits, Record spending, Record taxes
Record debt, that WE The People have really doesn't PERTAIN to any of The Administration. So I guess THEY can say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.


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Either this was meant to be sarcastic (and wrong) or you may finally understand that both Parties are ravaging the nation.

Although Deregulation was the GOPs baby, Clinton jumped on board. Free Trade is the brain child of Unfettered Free Marketeers, and Clinton Jumped on board.

Now deferring "tax cuts" to the next administration and still spending wildly is a GOP special. An actual fiscal conservative with a brain, like Peter Schiff, understands one has to have some taxation to actually balance the budget. Bellowing about taxation does not actually pay down existing debt.
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by ianlou February 5, 2010 9:09 AM EST
by RobAla February 5, 2010 5:41 AM EST
....Government needs to get off the backs of business, instead of adding more regulations and taxes....
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What BS!
That is exactly what we had in the last administration that led to the mess we are in now.

It led to a huge loss of America's manufacturing capability which led to a huge loss of good paying jobs. Thus a huge loss of American tax payers.

Deregulation led to irresponsible loan practices which led to the mortgage and Wall Street Meltdown.

It led to the Rich getting a lot richer while the American middle class lost significant ground for the first time since WWII.

Remember, the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result.
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by JWinATL February 5, 2010 10:25 AM EST
And your suggestion would be. . .
by WakeUpPeople001 February 5, 2010 8:56 AM EST
January Unemployment Rate Drops Unexpectedly to 9.7%

What a joke! There's that word again..."unexpectedly". When you see "unexpectedly" in relation to a government-generated statistic, **be sure** it has no basis in reality.

Apparently, the government thinks Americans need a psychological lift.

Here's a number from you to chew on...in Europe, the media is reporting that car sales in China rose 84%.

Now, you tell me--where's the new center of the universe?
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by sparkbox February 5, 2010 8:48 AM EST
These numbers don't reflect the reality. Small business owner-operators are'nt eligible for unemployment benefits, therefore when those companys fold, the numbers are not reported.
There are thousands of construction sub-contractors, landscape/lawn care operators, and small mortgage/real estate broker concerns that are no longer in business. And before someone spouts off, these were'nt all Hispanic illegals or dishonest broker/loan companies.
I have an idea that the current economy is the same economy we'll have in 5 or more years, regardless of who holds the office of President.
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by infantryman1968 February 5, 2010 8:07 AM EST
Recession Job Loss Estimate Set to Rise
Labor Department Expected to Bump Up Unemployment Figure for Year Ending March 2009 to about 8 Million

Yes We Can! Yes We Can! Yes We Can!
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by ianlou February 5, 2010 8:40 AM EST
Tea Bagger
by chevyhotrod February 5, 2010 8:51 AM EST
ianlou,
Now there?s an intellectual argument. lol
by usaguy2010 February 5, 2010 7:20 AM EST
I guess when Obama promised that unemployment wouldn't go above 8% he really meant 16%. He forgot to multiply.
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by RobAla February 5, 2010 6:45 AM EST
I think we are heading in the wrong direction, but that is my layman's perspective. I believe we should
1) Reduce the regulatory burdens on business. Government needs to get off the backs of business and individuals.
2) Cut taxes for business and individuals(consumers), so that people have more of their own money to spend.
3) The administration needs to reverse itself, and become more business friendly - rather than constantly attacking corporations and Wall Street. The government doesn't create stable jobs, business and Wall Street are job creators. The government is destroying consumer confidence.
4) Federal government must stop continuing to spend more money than it has. This practice has got to create inflation and devalue the dollar. Besides the fact that the entire economy may collapse if we don't stop.
5) Reduce the federal government to a manageable size, so that tax cuts can be done responsibly and out of control government spending can be pulled back in. This expansion of government has to stop and be reversed. The government should concentrate on what it does best, and stop trying to be all things to all people.

We are going in the wrong direction. Government created jobs are artificial, and are created on the backs of business and taxpayers. The TARP efforts and bogus stimulus packages have not helped.
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by ahrats February 5, 2010 6:39 AM EST
What has the govenment been doing for the last year about jobs,NOTHING! They been too busy tring to pass health care legislation, no one wants. luckily this is an election year and those who are up for re-election have a hard choice choose between business intererst or the people's interest. I hear banks are lobbing Congress not to be too hard on them since they put us in this economic turn down. The president wants to double out domestic output, but does Amerca make except food, cars and bombs? We have lots of doctors, lawers, banking executives and politico's but all other counties already have enough of their own. the counrty needs sustainable jobs not just hotels and restaurants. I see people still losing their jobs, except those on wall street and banks. Give the banks money to loan but they refuse to give it out unless your on wall street or really big businesses (Bear strens, AIG, GMAC ect.), the small guy sorry your too much of a risk.
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by Stevenapoli7 February 5, 2010 4:31 AM EST
One often overlooked point is that the U.S. education system is based on the Prussian model of teaching us to be employees, soldiers, and consumers. Think to your schooling. Anyone teach you how to be an employer or how to set up a small business? In Home Ec they taught me how to make a pillow. With better life-skills taught in high school and college, we wouldn't have as many people waiting for jobs. If we just had 10% increase in entreprenuers, the job losses would be far less.
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by RobAla February 5, 2010 5:36 AM EST
Very good point. I would like to see the schools bring in business owners to teach students a little about how the real world operates. One of the most interesting classes I took in college was a criminal justice course taught by an ex-FBI agent. Part of the problem in Washington right now is that we have someone in the Presidency who does not have any practical experience. He can't help that now. Things are what they are. However, he needs to begin to call on those who do have the experience.
by ianlou February 5, 2010 8:46 AM EST
by RobAla February 5, 2010 5:36 AM EST
Part of the problem in Washington right now is that we have someone in the Presidency who does not have any practical experience.
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Part of the problem is our last president had plenty of experience running businesses into the ditch. He managed to apply this skill to the entire country.
by JusWondering February 5, 2010 3:12 AM EST
Hey rightbehind, were coming off a full moon. Just after this cold front the fish should be biting real good for about 3, 4, days. Think I'm gonna just let these young bucks worry bout things a while...Take care Man.
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