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CBS/ February 4, 2010, 6:02 PM

Doc: Blame Med Journal for Measles Deaths

The bombshell retraction by the prestigious British medical journal Lancet of the landmark study associating the measles-mumps-rubella childhood vaccine to autism has led a longtime proponent of the vaccine to assert that Lancet's editors, the media and others should be held accountable in the measles deaths of four children whose parents withheld the vaccine due to concerns the children could have gotten autism from it.

Dr. Paul Offit, a pediatrician and Chief of Infectious Diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, has been a lightning rod at the center of the white-hot debate over whether that link exists. He's the author of the 2008 book, "Autism's False Prophets: Bad Science, Risky Medicine and the Search for a Cure," which forcefully contends that childhood immunizations are one of the man's greatest achievements and have saved many lives. The book has also sparked a backlash among those who believe vaccines aren't safe.

On "The Early Show" Wednesday, Offit says he hopes Lancet's reversal ends the debate, once-and-for-all. "It's certainly a long time in coming," he remarked to co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez. "The (original) paper obviously was critically flawed. It should have never been published. Science done since then has clearly shown that MMR vaccine didn't cause autism.

"The problem was that it started a firestorm. Hundreds of children in the United Kingdom and Ireland were hospitalized. Four children were killed by measles virus, a virus that could have been safely and easily prevented by vaccinations. This retraction will not give those children their lives back, but hopefully, it will save other children from succumbing to this completely preventable infection."

Asked whether blame should be assigned, Offit replied, "I think there are a lot of people who should be held responsible here. Obviously, those who -- the authors of the paper were shown by the general medical council to have acted unethically, and the journal withdrew the paper in part because they felt that the data had been falsified or misrepresented. I think that the editors should be held accountable. Four of the six people who reviewed that paper recommended that it be rejected yet, still, it was published.

"I think the media -- you jumped on this paper as if it fact -- you could argue, I think as Carl Sagan has, that extraordinary claims should be backed by extraordinary evidence. This was an extraordinary claim that was backed by virtually no evidence, and obviously has never been reproduced."

What about parents convinced their kids contracted autism from MMR vaccine?

"I think I can certainly understand where they're coming from. Their child was fine. They got a vaccine and then they weren't fine anymore. Could the vaccine have caused it? That's a question that, fortunately, can be addressed in a scientific venue. You know, you look at hundreds of thousands of children who did or didn't receive MMR vaccine to see whether the incidence of autism was greater in the vaccinated group, and it wasn't.

"The story that I tell, because it's a good one, and my wife is in private practice pediatrics -- she came into her office one day and was pulling up into a syringe a vaccine. A four-month-old was sitting on her mother's lap waiting for the vaccine, and the child had a seizure. She had a seizure while my wife was pulling that vaccine up into a syringe. If that vaccine had been given five minutes later, I think there's no amount of statistical data in the world that would have convinced that mother otherwise. And it's understandable. But these are scientific questions that can be answered and they have been answered.

"I would only plead with parents to believe the science that clearly has exonerated vaccines here."
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patrons99 says:
There will come a day when Dr Paul For Profit Offit has some serious explaining to do.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/25/cbsnews_investigates/main4296175.shtml
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hope600 says:
Why do the drug companies, CDC, NIH etc... ignore doing the simplest study of un-vaccinated (Amish and others) vs. vaccinated? Follow the money.
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patrons99 replies:
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They (drug companies, WHO, CDC, etc) ignore doing the simplest study comparing incidence of autism in unvaccinated vs vaccinated because their interests are completely conflicted. There is hope that such studies will be done. It will take considerable courage, however, to overcome the CDC, WHO, pharma, and mainstream medical establishment, all of whom have a considerable vested interest in global vaccine policy. Their attack will involve accusations of being irresponsible, because they are fearful of what such research will show. They cannot handle the truth.

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/secret-british-mmr-vaccine-files-forced-open-by-legal-action/#US_Developments

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/02/a-statement-from-jenny-mccarthy-jim-carrey-andrew-wakefield-scientific-censorship-and-fourteen-monke.html

http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
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erb0087 says:
"Blame Med Journal for Measles Deaths"

Spot on.
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beckylou26 says:
can the media air stories of parents who don't blame vaccines like they have stories linking vaccines to autism?
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beckylou26 says:
wondering if my 1st post was banned,just trying to say, as a parent w/ a child w/ autism,I do not feel vaccines caused his condition..i feel genetics is where we will find the answers we seek.
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91786 says:
The Lancet used to be one of the best in the world but the constant stream of inaccurate information... autism, massive overcount of Iraq War civilian dead, support for the now debunked man made global warming, etc has shown that The Lancet has been hijacked at multiple levels by people that place leftist politics over science and warp science to advance leftist goals.

The Lancet must take stern steps immediately if they want to reelevate trust in their publication by terminating anyone and everyone that could have any leftist influence in their general policies, editorial decisions, etc.

Your publication has had way too many "mistakes" that amount to criminal fraud.
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91786 replies:
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Remember when Saddam was still alive he stated US troops killed 200,000 Iraq civilians. Lancet the same month claimed over twice as many 500,000! UN stated 2,000.
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Rosiecee says:
The Physicians Desk Reference states that SSRI antidepressants and all antidepressants can cause mania, psychosis, abnormal thinking, paranoia, hostility, etc. These side effects can also appear during withdrawal. Also, these adverse reactions are not listed as Rare but are listed as either Frequent or Infrequent.

Go to www.SSRIstories.com where there are over 3,600 cases, with the full media article available, involving bizarre murders, suicides, school shootings/incidents [52 of these] and murder-suicides - all of which involve SSRI antidepressants like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, etc, . The media article usually tells which SSRI antidepressant the perpetrator was taking or had been using.
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91786 replies:
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3,600 of probably 100,000,000 worldwide takers of these drugs. Thats good, not bad! Plus, most if not all of these people that unhinge do so before the drug takes effect-- 1 to 2 weeks. Poor typical liberal logic here folks!
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cidaia says:
OH GOOD! We're finally going to start holding scientists accountable for being wrong?

Or is it just this one instance, cuz scientists want to control the discourse?

I hope we get to hold scientists accountable for EVERY study they print that turns out to (a) be wrong and (b) cause harm in being wrong...

Guess I shouldn't hold my breath?
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mollydtt replies:
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We're finally going to start holding "The Lancet" responsible for all of these lies.
Scientists and doctors always told the truth. It was "The Lancet" that wouldn't retract that fictitious story.
cidaia replies:
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The truth being whatever science says is true at a given moment?

Have scientists apologized yet for convicting people of murder based on phrenology - the scientifically proven method of determining a man's moral character by feeling the bumps on his head?
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sandy19731 says:
It is unfortunate when scientists publish inaccuracies. I applaud Lancet for retracting this bad study. It was scientific malpractice.
I understand that the study was flawed because of a "biased sample" something that no scientist would use as "proof" of anything.
Too many people want to believe garbage science that they get in e-mails or read in blogs.
Lancet is a good journal - they made a bad mistake. Don't let this one mistake dissuade you from believing in science.
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brianbwb2011 replies:
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don't worry Sandy, those who are incapable of understanding science are the ones who don't believe in it. They can never be educated, and so there will be no loss from this, it was bad judgment from several parties that caused this, not necessarily bad science.
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Actually, brian, a lot of people who "don't believe" in science are the ones who understand a great deal more than you do about the HISTORY of science.

The scientific method does not prize human life. It prizes knowledge. It views human life as something you SPEND to GET knowledge.

The people who "don't believe" in science are, JUST COINCIDENTALLY, the same group, demographically, who tend to get hurt when science uses the population as a giant experimental group.

I know FOUR PEOPLE who have taken Lexapro, the supposedly safe antidepressant. It is NOT safe. It causes depression so mind-crashing that it is reasonable to fear that anyone taking Lexapro is a suicide risk. It also appears to cause massive weight gain.

If science were required to keep track of all its failures - all the people whose lives were harmed or even lost because science OOPS is about learning through trial and error at other peoples' expense - it would be easy to see how astonishing it is that anyone still holds the scientific method as a credible method.

Let us add the medical "first, do no harm".

Let us add the Golden Rule: don't do to other people what you wouldn't want done to yourselves.

Those two things would change the face of science ... and restore trust in vaccines a lot more than selective blaming does. (Since when is publishing a study that turns out to be false an occasion for BLAME in the scientific community?)
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