January 13, 2010 4:06 PM

In Vermont, Effort to Secede From U.S.

(AP)  Peter Garritano thinks it's time for Vermont to call it quits with America.

The way the 54-year-old automobile salesman sees it, the "empire" is about to implode and tiny Vermont can lead the way by becoming its own independent republic. So he's running for lieutenant governor, topping a slate of secession-minded candidates seeking statewide offices this year.

Their name: Vermont Independence Day.

"The only hope is to just say, 'Look, this isn't working for us. We want to start fresh again, with a real democracy,"' Garritano said. "I think that's the answer. Hopefully, it won't take another horrible economic breakdown to realize that the people running things don't look out for the little guy, or us, or the soldiers. It's all about profit and getting the last drops of oil on Earth and trampling people's rights."

Garritano, gubernatorial candidate Dennis P. Steele and seven candidates for state Senate seats plan to declare their candidacies Friday.

Their cause isn't new: It's the latest incarnation of a movement that's bubbled in Vermont and elsewhere for years. Alaska, Hawaii, New Hampshire and Texas all have made noise about seceding, to no avail.

Their method is: Organizers say it's the first time since the Civil War that a secession movement has fielded a slate of candidates for statewide office, although individual pro-secession candidates have run before.

Few political observers give them much hope of winning, even in a left-leaning state where the popular Republican governor's decision not to seek re-election has touched off a scramble among would-be successors, with five Democrats and a Republican in a wide-open race for the seat headed to the Nov. 2 election.

Unlikelier still is the idea that, if elected, the candidates could accomplish their goal, critics say.

"This is the triumph of hope over reality," said Garrison Nelson, a political science professor at the University of Vermont and a longtime observer of the state's political scene. "The whole movement was spawned by having George W. Bush as president. My guess is that with (Barack) Obama as president and this being Obama's second-best state, the wind has been taken out of their sails."

In fact, Obama's failure to close the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has fueled some of the candidates' positions.

Long on outrage about the status quo but short on details about the new order they envision, they say Vermont could establish its own Social Security system, tend to health care and maintain roads using the billions of dollars in taxes it could save by not paying federal taxes.

Steele, a U.S. Army veteran, says if elected he'll call a statewide convention to consider articles of political independence and try to get Vermont National Guard troops returned home from the wars.

But as Dartmouth College professor of government Linda Fowler says, "The problem (with secession) always is the one the framers pointed out: Governmental units that are so small end up being vulnerable to their neighbors, in all kinds of ways."

For now, the focus is on the campaign in Vermont, where the secession candidates - on a shoestring budget - plan a largely Internet-based campaign. As of Wednesday, they hadn't launched a dedicated Web site, though one is planned.

Garritano, a Shelburne independent who's never run for office before, promised his wife the campaign wouldn't cost them much money. He's sticking to that: So far, he's spent $20 on business cards.

Come November, he won't be identified as a "secession" candidate on the ballot; it will just say "independent."

"If somehow, miraculously, I got elected lieutenant governor, I'd make an effort to get back some of our rights - right to freedom of speech, freedom of association and other Constitution-Bill of Rights things that have been taken away from us," Garritano said.

Steele, a 44-year-old political neophyte from Kirby who owns Internet radio station Free Vermont Radio, says he'll take a grassroots approach to campaigning - traversing the state in a recreational vehicle with his wife, 5-year-old daughter and 3-year-old son.

"The plan is to travel around the state with my family, try to make it a fun thing," he said. "Go out, do some live broadcasts, pound some doors and then come back to the campground with my family in the RV."

Former Gov. Thomas Salmon is among those who doubt Vermont will ever break its ties with Washington, D.C.

"Do I think Vermont has a realistic chance of seceding in the near-term, midterm or long-term future? No, I don't," said Salmon, who served in the 1970s. "We did our time as an independent Republic, from 1777 to 1791. I think one time as an independent republic is enough."

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by NowBeWithThat January 14, 2010 8:57 AM EST
Vermont's population is 99% white.

Nuff said.
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by proudmilvet January 14, 2010 3:33 AM EST
This guy Garritano looks like a real Sc**bag! They will probably secede, then just like in that Peter Sellers Movie "The Mouse that roared" declare war on the U.S. Then ask for foreign aid after they lose!
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by airjackie January 14, 2010 12:27 AM EST
And the Republican nuts just keep on coming. Vermont can't make it alone and even needed Stimulus money and now looking forward to Health Care funds. Now will the State still look for help from the rest of the United States?
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by truth-b-toll January 13, 2010 11:11 PM EST
what a bunch of Anti-american TRAITORS!
These right-wing nutjobs need to tarred and feathered!
Nothing but a bunch of gop hot airbags!
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by rykatspop January 13, 2010 10:18 PM EST
Vermont has guts. I hope its voters have guts, too. Go for it. I'm sure a number of neighboring states will continue to do trade with Vermont. However, it's going to take a whole lot of maple syrup to build a thriving economy. I like it. No, I love it. Every state needs this kind of grassroots movement. The message gets pretty loud. Would people really begin to take to the streets in revolt? I can only hope.
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by P0ST1ING_AWAY January 13, 2010 6:51 PM EST
Dearest Vermont:
What will you be using as currency? Clam Shells?
Keep in mind that your citizens will most likely
need a passport to visit us here in the USA.
Where will you be getting your gasoline ???
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by apuan777 January 13, 2010 7:45 PM EST
They can easily make the US dollar their currency. Anybody currently born in Vermont is a US Citizen, so that would only affect new people born in Vermont. Vermont would have the ability to make their own gasoline deals. I think you will see a lot of states looking to go in the same direction. The Georgia legislation is voting to allow a vote whether or not they will participate in the government run health program. Texas and South Carolina have continuely had issues with the Union. This is what happens when you try to turn a captilistic, democratic country into a socialist, nationalist country.
by jeffinpa1234 January 13, 2010 5:32 PM EST
There are a lot of us thinking the same way! Maybe instead of thinking of abandoning our country we need to think about taking back our government and having it work the way our founding fathers intended! Cutting and running is not an American trait especially for our proud Green Mountain Boys defending the skys of America! It is a great republic - if not manipulated by lobbist and corrupt elected representatives! What we have does need fixing - but to say that we should throw it out and start over....well that it a bit much. If Vermont does secede from the republic....our prayers go with you and please do the rest of the republic a favor and take Pat Leahy, Bernie Sanders and John Dean with you!!
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by jericolover January 13, 2010 5:19 PM EST
So, let's see....Vermont's effort to secede from the U.S. is successful. What next? Well...I guess everyone in Vermont stops getting Social Security checks, there's no more unemployment benefits, no more social service benefits such as food stamps and medicaid, and of course the U.S. won't send Vermont any more money to help maintain roads and infrastructure. Now you'll need to form agreements for trade with the U.S. for food, gas, and anything else the state can't produce for itself. I bet we'd be in a big rush to get those agreements in place. After all, Vermont's now a little isolated country in dire need. I think not!!!!
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by ToolMangler1 January 13, 2010 6:17 PM EST
If they are serious about secession, China will be glad to hear that. Vermont will pay off our debt to china..
by apuan777 January 13, 2010 7:50 PM EST
Sweet, a place with no socialism! Wait until they dam up the water flowing down to New York!
by stn_sage January 13, 2010 5:18 PM EST
If the country had competent, incorruptible leadership that was effectively representing the public, then you wouldn't have so many people suggesting that states breakaway from the federal government!

These people have legitimate grievances and concerns, and this 'movement' is going to grow and expand if the Democrats and Republicans don't stop looting the government and selling out the public!
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by jwesel1 January 13, 2010 4:53 PM EST
Green passport for green mountain country
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by ToolMangler1 January 13, 2010 6:20 PM EST
Vermont is only good for keeping Maine from sliding into New York
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