January 3, 2010 11:10 PM

Why The VA Frustrates Veterans

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(CBS)  There is a sacred tradition in the military: leave no one behind on the battlefield. But many veterans are beginning to believe their country has left them behind at home, once they're out of uniform and in need of help. That help is supposed to come from the Department of Veterans Affairs and the financial compensation it gives to veterans disabled by their military service.

It was Abraham Lincoln who said the purpose of the VA was to "care for him who shall have borne the battle." But the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have pushed the VA further behind in that mission, and today there are a million veterans waiting for the VA to handle their disability claims.

That has led some to latch onto another motto making the rounds for how the VA operates: "Delay, Deny and Hope That I Die."

"When I hear that, I will tell you that it really troubles me. As somebody who has devoted 35 years of my life to this organization, and to serving veterans, it's extremely troubling that there are veterans who feel that way," the VA's Deputy Undersecretary for Benefits Michael Walcoff, told 60 Minutes correspondent Byron Pitts.

Last year, $30 billion dollars - one third of the VA's total budget - was paid in disability compensation to nearly three million veterans.

To receive a disability benefit, a veteran has to be honorably discharged.

"They have to have a current disability, and provide evidence that it was service related?" Pitts asked Walcoff.

"That it's connected to their service, right," he replied.

"Why, then, is the claim form 23 pages long?" Pitts asked.

"A 23-page application form I think is probably, goes beyond just what is required. And one of the things that we're looking at is to try to simplify the process," Walcoff said.

That process has been strained by a flood of disability claims - everything from combat wounds to injuries off the battlefield, illnesses and psychological disorders. Since 2003, 400,000 claims have come from veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, hundreds of thousands more from aging veterans of earlier conflicts.

Add to that the recession, which is forcing more veterans to turn to the VA for help. Paul Sullivan was an Army scout during the Gulf War in 1991 and later spent six years working at the VA, analyzing trends in disability claims.

"All of those things have resulted in the Veterans Benefits Administration facing a backlog of one million claims," Sullivan told Pitts.

Sullivan said the system is "absolutely overwhelmed." He is now executive director of Veterans for Common Sense, a group that champions veterans issues.

"Veterans wait on average about six months to receive an initial answer on a disability claim. If a veteran disagrees with VA's decision, the veteran waits another four years. That is a crisis," Sullivan said.

And that's how Army veteran Joe Devins sees it. In late 2003, he was on patrol in Baghdad when he says an IED exploded near his truck.

Remembering the blast, he told Pitts, "I'd say for the first few seconds afterwards, I wasn't really sure if I was dead or alive."

Devins left the Army in 2004 and now receives $704 a month for a back injury and for migraine headaches that he says were caused by the IED. Devins also claims to suffer from sleeplessness, anxiety and anger. "I haven't had a single night's sleep without either over-the-counter or prescription medication since probably December of '03."

Yet it wasn't until two years after his discharge that a VA counselor told Devins he had PTSD (Post-traumatic stress disorder) and should apply for benefits. So he did.

Ten months later, the VA rejected his claim.

Asked why they denied the PTSD claim, Devins told Pitts, "Because they said I had to prove, show them proof that the incident with the IED actually happened."

But Devins was already getting benefits for the migraines he says were caused by the IED. Asked if that doesn't prove he was there, Devins told Pitts, "I would think so, but apparently that wasn't enough proof for them."

"What do you think they were saying about you, though?" Pitts asked.

"That I was making stuff up," Devins said. "That I was just out to get money."

The VA doesn't say that Devins is making up his claim, only that he can't prove it. He gets benefits for migraines, simply because they started while he was in the Army. But there is no mention of an IED explosion in his military records.

Devins' situation is not uncommon. It can be difficult to pin down a particular cause of PTSD. So the VA says it is changing the rules for these claims, and veterans will no longer have to prove a connection between specific incidents and their Post-traumatic stress disorder.



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by gtaylor557 December 21, 2011 9:58 PM EST
I tried several times to apply but they always gave me an excuse of denial, it doesn't matter they just don't take care of thier own, that's why we live on the street you f**ks, we're alcoholics because life is hopeless, the military made us that way, so make excuses for the VA and say whatever you want, it doesn't matter, you try staying at one of the homeless shelters for vets, they don't care either, they just release you back into the streets in the morning, nobody will hire me because I have no home, nobody f**kn cares, and yes you should kill yourself before asking the VA for help, because you will get better service.
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by rweddle December 23, 2010 11:17 PM EST
my dad went to iraq, got injured in the spine and got a TBI and the VA has been waiting almost 3 YEARS for to get all the paperwork and all the signatures to get him is disability but they still havent paid him and it is really ticking me off,
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by rweddle December 23, 2010 11:19 PM EST
sorry i screwed up on my writing on this a little bit.
by tired_and_frustrated August 9, 2010 11:54 PM EDT
It will have been 6 years in October 2010 that my husband applied for total disablility and we are still waiting. He was recently told by his VA doctor that no doctor in the hospital will touch him because there is nothing they can do for him except give him pain meds to help ease the pain. Being medicated on morphine plus some all day is no way for a 39 year old to live. He will not stop fighting for what he deserves until he gets it.
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by rweddle December 23, 2010 11:20 PM EST
what injury does he have?
by cdog8888 July 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT
Another thing that I don't like about the VA is when they service connect a veteran who has not even served in combat. There are combat vets who don't get service connected. Why is the VA out service connecting non-combat vets over combat vets?
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by cdog8888 July 9, 2010 1:09 AM EDT
Another horror story. I went to the optometrist and told her that I can not see very well at far distances. She did all the eye tests on me and told me that I did not need glasses. I know that I could not see 30 feet in front of me so I decided to go to a civilan eye doctor. They said that I did need glasses and fitted me with the right glasses. No more VA eye doctors for me!!
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by toid1960 June 30, 2010 11:46 AM EDT
I wonder how many of these negative comments are really true.
A friend of mine who was sent to Vietnam just when the pullout started and he never set foot in battle.
30 years later after smoking 3-4 packs of cigarettes his whole life he was diagnosed with emphysema. He filed a claim for agent orange compensation and was awarded 100% disability and the $2500 or so tax exempt status that comes with it.
I got 100% for losing my kidneys and other other injuries after a grenade exploded near my dug in location. I am not sure of how many people are scamming the VA over the agent orange situation but a bunch of those awards are just hogwash.
I have never had any problems with the VA....I need something I get it. Of course your prioity rating has to do with that and 50-100% get the quickest attention.
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by The_Burden_of_proof June 26, 2010 11:27 PM EDT
Hello,

I am a disabled Veteran and former U.S. Marine. I served for five years and I loved every single day even those days that some might say were tough times. I served proudly in several countries around the world as a 6073 and then went on to MSG Duty at a few American Embassies. Everywhere I went the Marine Corps was not my job but was the equivalent to my religion, it was our duty to endure the hardships and the pain of several injuries that as a team we would almost absorb or ?suck it up? so that we might continue to carry this title. Personally I have several injuries that I have approached V.A. nurses and doctors with and I have had such a difficult time getting the proper treatment. I have had one male nurse go as far to tell me statements such as ?we do not treat that here? and to find a year or two later that they actually do. I have found that there are a few dedicated nurses and doctors but they are taken down by the few that pass on the wrong information. I just want to be treated my health is not a game, I have a few serious issues with my health and would like to see some change for the current Veterans and the future Veterans. I am currently seeking assistance outside the VA.
Respectfully
GMOROS
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by cdog8888 June 17, 2010 6:42 PM EDT
Here is another horror story. The last time I went to the VA dentist was over two years ago. I am sitting in the chair and the hygenist says I need to numb you up to do the cleaning. I thought she would inject novicain into my gums. She did inject it into my gums. She also injected it into the ROOF OF MY MOUTH!!! Who trained her? She has no job compentency whatsoever. I will never go to another VA dentist again!!!
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by cdog8888 June 17, 2010 6:31 PM EDT
I got married in January of 2009. The VA says that I had untill January of 2010 to file a change of dependency form. I should be backpaid around $1,200. This is not right!! The culture and VA need to change. You have one year to file an appeal with the VA. Who do I talk to in order to get this policy changed? Why was I not told to file a change of dependency form? I have interacted with the VA numerous times. I have read many of their documents. Nowhere did it say to file a claim once one gets married.
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by DePaul_NatalieSorrello March 7, 2010 10:14 PM EST
We are conducting a survey through DePaul University of Returning Post-War Military Veterans who have used the VA and other veterans services. For those who are willing to take a brief survey you would help us determine the needs of returning military veterans. All information entered in the survey is confidential and anonymous, please forward your email address to nsorrell01@gmail.com until March 22, 2010 and the link will be sent to you. Thank you for your participation.
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