January 1, 2010 11:52 AM

Mom, Baby Revive Mysteriously on Xmas Eve

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(CBS/ AP)  Mike Hermanstorfer was clutching his pregnant wife's hand in a Colorado hospital on Christmas Eve when she stopped breathing, her life apparently slipping away. Then he cradled his newborn son's limp body seconds after a medical team delivered the baby by Cesarean section.

Minutes later, he saw his son show signs of life in his arms under the feverish attention of doctors, and soon he learned his wife had inexplicably started breathing again.

"My legs went out from underneath me," Hermanstorfer said Tuesday. "I had everything in the world taken from me, and in an hour and a half I had everything given to me."

Hermanstorfer's wife, Tracy, went into cardiac arrest and stopped breathing during labor on Thursday, said Dr. Stephanie Martin, a maternal fetal medicine specialist at Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs, where the Hermanstorfers had gone for the birth of their son.

"She had no signs of life. No heartbeat, no blood pressure, she wasn't breathing," said Martin, who had rushed to Hermanstorfer's room to help. "The baby was, it was basically limp, with a very slow heart rate."

After their miraculous recovery, both mother and the baby, named Coltyn, appear healthy with no signs of problems, Martin said.

She said she cannot explain the mother's cardiac arrest or the recovery.

"We did a thorough evaluation and can't find anything that explains why this happened," she said.

Mike Hermanstorfer credits "the hand of God."

"We are both believers ... but this right here, even a nonbeliever -- you explain to me how this happened. There is no other explanation," he said.

Asked about divine intervention, Martin said, "Wherever I can get the help, I'll take it."

Mike says he's having trouble sleeping now -- constantly checking up on mother and baby, reports "Early Show" national correspondent Hattie Kauffman, who spoke with him and Martin:


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Tracy Hermanstorfer, 33, was getting prepped for childbirth at the hospital Thursday morning and her 37-year-old husband was by her side when she began to feel sleepy and laid back in her bed.

"She literally stopped breathing and her heart stopped," her husband said. Pandemonium erupted as doctors and nurses tried to revive her with chest compressions and a breathing tube, but nothing worked.

"I was holding her hand when we realized she was gone," Hermanstorfer said. "My entire life just rolled out."

Doctors told him, "We're going to take your son out now. We have been unable to revive her and we're going to take your son out," he recalled.

After the Cesarean section, some of the team rushed his wife to the operating room while the others attended to Coltyn.

"They hand him to me, he's absolutely lifeless," Hermanstorfer said. The doctors went to work on Coltyn as Hermanstorfer held him, and soon he began to breath.

"His life began in my hands," Hermanstorfer said. "That's a feeling like none other. Life actually began in the palm of my hands."

Martin said Tracy Hermanstorfer's pulse returned even before she was wheeled out of the room and into surgery. She estimates Hermanstorfer had no heartbeat for about four minutes.

Hermanstorfer remembers getting sleepy and closing her eyes in her hospital bed, then awakening in the intensive care unit.

Friends have asked if she saw a light or had other experiences described by others who have survived near-death experiences, but she didn't.

"I just felt like I was asleep," she said.

When doctors told her what happened, "I'm like, 'Holy cow, was it that bad? Wow."'

The Hermanstorfers returned Monday to their home in Security, just outside Colorado Springs, about 65 miles south of Denver.

Both Mike and Tracy Hermanstorfer worry that she might have a recurrence. Martin said she can't offer the Hermanstorfers much advice because she doesn't know what caused the original problem.

On Tuesday, the couple celebrated a delayed Christmas with their 3-year-old son, Kanyen, and Tracy Hermanstorfer's 11-year-old son, Austin, from her previous marriage.

She plans to tell Coltyn about his birth when he's old enough to understand.

"I'll tell him everything ... that he's my miracle baby. That he had a tough time coming into this world, that he's my miracle baby and he's still here with us," she said.

She said Austin is worried and confused but the experience is improving his already-close relationship with Mike Hermanstorfer, his stepfather.

Kanyen doesn't understand much except that doctors had to work on his mom in the hospital, she said. His reaction was, "OK, we got the baby, let's go home now."

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by erb0087 January 2, 2010 2:58 AM EST
by armyoftwelve January 2, 2010 12:44 AM EST
Science is an impersonal thing. And where did science come from?
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There have probably been scientists as long as there have been human beings. The cavemen who figured out how to start fires were practicing primitive science.

Men like Hippocrates and Democritus were true scientists.

In the days of Hippocrates, epilepsy was called "the Sacred Disease" because its sufferers were thought to be possessed by a god or gods.

In 400 BCE, Hippocrates (in writings attributed to his school) treats this theory with the same scorn that a modern scientific doctor would. He writes:

"It is thus with regard to the disease called Sacred: it appears to me to be nowise more divine nor more sacred than other diseases, but has a natural cause from the originates like other affections. Men regard its nature and cause as divine from ignorance and wonder, because it is not at all like to other diseases. And this notion of its divinity is kept up by their inability to comprehend it, and the simplicity of the mode by which it is cured, for men are freed from it by purifications and incantations. But if it is reckoned divine because it is wonderful, instead of one there are many diseases which would be sacred; for, as I will show, there are others no less wonderful and prodigious, which nobody imagines to be sacred. The quotidian, tertian, and quartan fevers, seem to me no less sacred and divine in their origin than this disease, although they are not reckoned so wonderful. And I see men become mad and demented from no manifest cause, and at the same time doing many things out of place; and I have known many persons in sleep groaning and crying out, some in a state of suffocation, some jumping up and fleeing out of doors, and deprived of their reason until they awaken, and afterward becoming well and rational as before, although they be pale and weak; and this will happen not once but frequently. And there are many and various things of the like kind, which it would be tedious to state particularly."

http://classics.mit.edu/Hippocrates/sacred.html
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by erb0087 January 2, 2010 3:12 AM EST
Good doctor Hippocrates continues...

"They who first referred this malady [epilesy] to the gods appear to me to have been just such persons as the conjurors, purificators, mountebanks, and charlatans now are, who give themselves out for being excessively religious, and as knowing more than other people. Such persons, then, using the divinity as a pretext and screen of their own inability to of their own inability to afford any assistance, have given out that the disease is sacred, adding suitable reasons for this opinion, they have instituted a mode of treatment which is safe for themselves, namely, by applying purifications and incantations, and enforcing abstinence from baths and many articles of food which are unwholesome to men in diseases.

Of sea substances, the surmullet, the blacktail, the mullet, and the eel; for these are the fishes most to be guarded against. And of fleshes, those of the goat, the stag, the sow, and the dog...

...And they forbid to have a black robe, because black is expressive of death; and to sleep on a goat's skin, or to wear it, and to put one foot upon another, or one hand upon another; for all these things are held to be hindrances to the cure. All these they enjoin with reference to its divinity, as if possessed of more knowledge...

...But I am of opinion that (if this were true) none of the Libyans, who live in the interior, would be free from this disease, since they all sleep on goats' skins, and live upon goats' flesh; neither have they couch, robe, nor shoe that is not made of goat's skin, for they have no other herds but goats and oxen.

But if these things, when administered in food, aggravate the disease, and if it be cured by abstinence from them, godhead is not the cause at all; nor will purifications be of any avail, but it is the food which is beneficial and prejudicial, and the influence of the divinity vanishes."
by erb0087 January 2, 2010 2:47 AM EST
by armyoftwelve January 2, 2010 12:46 AM EST
"...I swatted that little fairy in August..."

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Take care now.

Assaults on members of the gay and lesbian community are classified as hate crimes under the Matthew Shephard Act.
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by armyoftwelve January 2, 2010 12:42 AM EST
What a bunch of whining naysayers on this forum!

If you don't think it's a miracle--PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!
(Not that I care what any of you malcontents believe)
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by carilovesscott January 1, 2010 5:50 PM EST
wow, its like there is no story that is safe from the rath of the commenters!!!
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by erb0087 January 1, 2010 2:30 PM EST
"Mom, Baby Revive Mysteriously on Xmas Eve"

In other news...

"Explosive on Airliner Mysteriously Malfunctions on Christmas Day"

My friend the Tooth Fairy performed all these mighty deeds.

"Suicide Bomber Kills 7 Americans in Afghanistan"

(Hey, She can't be everywhere !)

"No U.S. combat-related deaths in Iraq in December"

Thank you, President Obama.
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by writer10 January 1, 2010 4:30 PM EST
some of us welcome a bright spot of news during a time where all news is depressing, sad and death laced...
by armyoftwelve January 2, 2010 12:46 AM EST
Your god is dead, I swatted that little fairy in August. You'll have to find another god to blame for those miracles.
by erb0087 January 1, 2010 2:21 PM EST
Diagoras of Melos in the 5th century BCE was one of the first known atheists.

Cicero wrote that Diagoras was once on a ship during a terrible storm, and the crew thought that they had brought it on themselves by taking this ungodly man onboard. Diagoras then asked them if all the other boats out in the same storm also had an atheist onboard.
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by armyoftwelve January 2, 2010 12:47 AM EST
And they said "you caused the storm just by being out on the water, and now everyone suffers...."
by thrashd11 December 31, 2009 6:42 PM EST
I need to correct an earlier post I made. I said that no major news service would ever report a story where the heart stopped beating for over 6 minutes. I mean't that if blood flow would stop for over 6 minutes. The heart can, of course, stop for over 6 minutes if some form of resuscitation is taking the place of the heart and causing blood to flow.
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by mjm117 December 30, 2009 6:18 PM EST
<Yawn> ...will this nonsense ever stop?
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by coopy67 December 30, 2009 3:49 PM EST
This is really not all that miraculous. There is reason for every thing. She most likely suffered a pulmonary embolism and recovered, which happens. As for the baby, we resuscitate babies born compromised all the time. Yes, it's nice that things went so well, but lets remember that when see Jesus's image in a grilled cheese sandwich, what we're looking at is a grilled cheese sandwich.
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by cleric60 December 30, 2009 3:58 PM EST
miracle: "an extremely outstanding event or unusual event,thing, or accomplishment"
It appears that all those involved in this event, including the medical-trained staff it was miraculous. Since, they were present and witnessed this unusual event I would concur with them.
by IrishWench01 January 2, 2010 2:13 AM EST
Perhaps before you scoff, you should read the article again and more thoroughly. I'm not saying its a miracle of God or anyone else, but it does match the general definition. In addition, if you read what the doctor and staff had to say as well as the details, it is evident this is not at all common and they have determined no cause.
by cleric60 December 30, 2009 3:33 PM EST
Hello thrashd1... Go to the Fox website and read this

'Hand of God'
Colorado woman says Christmas miracle brought her and newborn son back to 1ife.

"Stopping doubting and have faith" Jesus said to Thomas on that first Easter morn.
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