December 24, 2009 7:04 AM

Health Bill Clears Final Procedural Step

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Democrats pushed sweeping health care legislation to the brink of Senate passage Wednesday, crushing a year-end Republican filibuster against President Barack Obama's call to remake the nation's health care system.

The 60-39 vote marked the third time in as many days Democrats have posted a supermajority needed to advance the legislation. Final passage, set for about dawn on Thursday, was a certainty, and will clear the way for talks with the House on a final compromise. Those negotiations likely will stretch into February.

The Senate has met for 24 consecutive days to debate the legislation, the second-longest such stretch in history, and Democrats held a celebratory press conference.

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"We stand at on the doorstep of history," said Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who painstakingly pieced together the bill - and the now-controversial deals with wavering lawmakers that made its passage possible.

The measure would extend coverage to an estimated 31 million who lack it, while banning the insurance industry from denying benefits or charging higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions. The Congressional Budget Office predicts the bill will reduce deficits by $130 billion over the next 10 years, an estimate that assumes lawmakers carry through on hundreds of billions of dollars in planned cuts to insurance companies and doctors, hospitals and others who treat Medicare patients.

Obama has also said he wants legislation that slows the rate of growth in medical spending nationwide, but the CBO said it has not determined whether that is the case with the bill.

Unlike the House, the Senate measure omits a government-run insurance option, which liberals favored to apply pressure on private insurers but Democratic moderates opposed as an unwarranted federal intrusion into the health care system.

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In an interview with PBS, Obama signaled he will sign a bill even if it lacks the provision.

"Would I like one of those options to be the public option? Yes. Do I think that it makes sense, as some have argued, that, without the public option, we dump all these other extraordinary reforms and we say to the 30 million people who don't have coverage, 'You know, sorry. We didn't get exactly what we wanted?' I don't think that makes sense." (Read more about Obama's interview with PBS)

Outnumbered Senate Republicans stubbornly played out a losing hand. They launched several last-minute attacks that Democrats swatted aside, then rejected calls to move the final vote up a day in deference to a snowstorm that threatened to prevent lawmakers from reaching home on Christmas Eve.

"Tomorrow the Senate will vote on a bill that makes a bad situation worse," said Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa. "This bill slid rapidly down the slippery slope to more and more government control of health care."

Even before the bill passed, it was spinning off legal controversies at a remarkable rate.

Republican attorneys general in seven states discussed a court challenge to part of the bill that singles out Nebraska for special treatment, a concession made by the White House and Reid to lock in the state's Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson as the 60th vote for the legislation.

Under the provision, the federal government will permanently pick up the state's entire cost for an expansion of Medicaid, while paying the full tab for the other 49 states for only three years.

Nelson, who has strongly defended the provision, told reporters, "The governor said take care of it. I did." Asked whether the governor, Republican Dave Heineman, had said he didn't want the money, Nelson replied, "He hasn't said it to me."

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That underscored the potential political dilemma facing Republicans in Washington who oppose additional funding that governors of their own party may want.

Senate Republicans also laid out two other avenues for a court challenge.

Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., argued the measure was unconstitutional, saying Congress lacks authority to require Americans to purchase insurance. Democrats defeated his attempt to derail the bill, 60-39, but other critics of the bill were already speaking of a court challenge based on the same point.

Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas, who is running for governor, said the bill improperly usurps the authority of the states to regulate insurance. She lost in a Senate vote, but that argument, too, is ripe for a court challenge.

In one concession to the season and the weather, Republicans agreed to move up the vote on final passage by one hour, to 7 am. Thursday. When Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., asked if they were willing to push up the vote even more, a hush fell over the Senate chamber before the Republican leader, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, indicated they were not prepared to do so.

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by Syndicate December 24, 2009 4:48 AM EST
This bill is dead because it is unconstitutional. It will probably pass. The insurance companies will have traded the right to screen their customers because of their greed to make everyone their customer. Passing a law that says I have to buy insurance is as unconstitutional as passing a law that says I have to buy Nestle Quick. Congress lacks the power to make a private citizen purchase a private product. Some will argue its like car insurance, but its not. I don't have to own a car. I don't have to drive it and if I can cover the liability out of pocket I don't have to buy insurance. So once this bill passes and it winds through court. The end result will be massive premium increases. People who have to have insurance will be paying outrageous premiums because the healthy people won't need insurance. If you get sick then you buy insurance. After all the insurance company can't tell you no anymore and the government can't make you buy it.
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by BeckieBest December 24, 2009 1:38 AM EST
The last time Republicans killed health care reform, they sat by happily and watched as health care costs more than doubled.


Now they want you to believe that doing nothing again is the best option.


Fool me once...............
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by workingnurse December 24, 2009 2:00 AM EST
Why is everything to you Democrat versus Republican? If people don't want to pass this bill it is not because they are Republican, it is because it is a ridiculous bill..do you even know what is in the bill? If you do and you still want to pass this bill, good luck to future generations. Luckily I wont be around to see this country go under with more corruption, waste, fraud, and bankruptcy.
by CPJ44 December 24, 2009 3:42 AM EST
Well said! People hate this bill because it's a bad bill!

There are lots of ways to reduce health care and the bill is not doing it.

#1. Sell insurance across states. This will reduce costs.
#2. Limit the amount you can sue a doctor or hospital. So much is wasted to preventive tests by doctors afraid of lawsuits. This is all to make trial lawyers rich.
#3. Make universal health care for serious illnesses only. Simple things, have people pay for. Just like auto insurance only covers serious things. If you need new windshield wipers, tires or an oil change, you pay yourself. You don't bill your insurance company.

And no fines for not buying insurance!

Look at the places where universal health care has worked (Singapore) and use those models.

Do not copy a policy that has failed in the past like Massachusetts.

Unfortunately, the Democrats are trying more to pass this because they want bigger government, not because they care about cutting costs.
by workingnurse December 24, 2009 12:42 AM EST
I work, pay my bills, pay my taxes, dont owe any money. I'm mad because I am sick of feeling like my money is wasted and squandered by this government. Katie Couric are you listening to what angry Americans are talking about? You certainly do when they are angry liberals...funny you don't cover the tea party views. Maybe not funny, maybe hypocritical is a better word. Listening to your show makes me want to join a tea party, to hear what real people think. You still don't know why Americans are getting angry?? What kind of reporter are you? Do you even read these comments. Do you even care about the working class who are being robbed by this government every day.
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by BeckieBest December 24, 2009 1:37 AM EST
People don't take teabaggers seriously because they are ignorant, hate filled, parrots of Limbough and Beck.
by CPJ44 December 24, 2009 3:45 AM EST
I love it when far left liberals accuse the Tea Party movement of being ignorant!

The far lefties think that OJ Simpson is innocent and they have the nerve to call conservatives ignorant! And they are the ones that tried to falsely arrest the Duke lacrosse team and supported the hooker stripper.

Any argument based on facts will most likely be won by conservatives.

So liberals need to use emotion as that's all they got. You break down their argument and they got nothing to stand on.
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by obwan222 December 24, 2009 12:28 AM EST
...said Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa. "This bill slid rapidly down the slippery slope to more and more government control of health care."

It's amazing how people can accuse Obama of being dishonest and ignore a statement like this.

EVERYONE knows that the Senate bill went from one that had a govt.-run insurance option to one that did not. IN fact, even the expansion of Medicare was defeated. But here Grassley tries to pretend that the exact opposite happened.

He wants to say that the bill became about MORE govt. control when everyone over the age of zero knows that with every change it became about LESS govt. control.

Well, where are the cons jumping all over Grassley for a bald-face lie? Why aren't the right calling out Grassley for lying to the American people? Could it be that they are ALL politicians and that ALL politicians lie? OH MY GOD! Then that would mean that they are like, I don't know... human beings?
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by Omni-Present101 December 24, 2009 12:25 AM EST
Some of You People are just Stupid as He!!

The CONS on YOU

The Republicans are just as Owned by Corporate America, Bankers, The Insurance Industry, Pharmaceutical Companies, Oil Corporations and Foreign Investors as the Democrats.
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Its called a Damn Monopoly, Musical Chairs.

Both Parties are Owned and any New Party, will be Owned, that is Voted in, like say, Arizona's Tea Party JD Hayworth, who will Lose against John McCain, Unless Bankers want JD Hayworth to WIN, he's also Corrupt as Hell, with Problems going into this Race For John McCain's Mantle..
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Its Coming, Tea Party, Green Party, Progressive, Hispanic American Party, Asian Party, Pacific Islander Party, Can't you SEE...

The Bankers want a Parliament System Now, to make it SEEM as if, this will Shake things up, as though these New Political Persuasions will Spice or Liven things up in D.C. they Won't, they'll do the same as the Other Parties.

They'll get Rich, Powerful & Greedy as their Counterparts and you'll Scream the Same things about them as the Established Parties, if not WORSE.
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Big Note: Soon You'll have a God Damn Parliament without having to call it a [[Parliament]]
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by obwan222 December 23, 2009 11:27 PM EST
"I'm not sure where they all were when... and I'm not sure what they were doing while... or what they were doing when...or if they had to..."

So while you admit complete ignorance of the life of others you still feel justified in feeling superior to them? You admit repeatedly that you don't know what they were going through and yet you feel like you should judge them in some way. You say that their life is a mystery to you, so how do you know that they weren't dealing with obstacles and problems far greater than yours?

For someone who doesn't have a clue about the life of others you seem to think that you have all the answers.
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by obwan222 December 23, 2009 11:21 PM EST
"...when the democrats can't even get their own sh_t together and keep watering down the health insurance reform..."

Actually, they are getting it together. The HC reform is going to pass the Senate. And will pass both houses next year.

As for "watering it down", even the Founding Fathers embraced compromise when they removed a paragraph from the Declaration of Independence condemning slavery so they could get the votes of the Southern Colonies. But they were also politicians - not Gods.

"Why not hate the dems to..."

Because people with preexisting conditions will be able to get insurance, people with catastrophic illnesses will not face artificial caps on their coverage, 30 million more Americans will have coverage, there are cost reduction and revenue increases to pay for it (unlike the Republican Drug Benefit plan), the working poor (note I said WORKING) will be able to afford coverage... those are just some of the reasons why we shouldn't hate Dems, since you asked.

"People who think like you are the ones dividing this country, along with your two political parties."

Actually, I only claim one party - about 17% of Americans claim the other one.

Honestly, if you don't claim any party than you about as influential as Ross Perot of Ralph Nader - in other words, nada.
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by vista8635 December 23, 2009 11:11 PM EST
The health care bill is a sick joke on liberals.

Money talks; democracy walks.
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by olyboy December 23, 2009 11:11 PM EST
Dear Mr President, I'm confused. You talk about all the people who don't have insurance, but you never talk about why. I'm not sure where they all were when I was studying until 11:00 every night while my wife worked to put me through school, and I'm not sure what they were doing while I was working 14 - 16 hour days to get ahead in my profession, or what they were doing when I was away from home on business for all those birthdays and school plays, or if they had to leave for emergency meetings while on vacation. You see, I thought it was my responsibility to make sure my family had insurance, and clothing and all the rest. Apparently you think that people miss out on that stuff just because..., well, I'm not sure why, but tell me again why, after all I've done to make my family secure, I have to pay their healthcare bills???
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by the74blaster December 23, 2009 11:54 PM EST
I share a life of working hard to get ahead and I also feel resentment towards those whoare able to wrk but choose to live off the government.

However, I feel the policies of shipping our jobs offshore under the excuse of making our companies more competitive in the world market is to blame.

Has anyone considered where all of these displaced manufacturing are going to find jobs so the high rollers can line their pockets and live like kings while the rest of us hard working people struggle to make ends meet?

Taxation is not a bad thing especially if is used to effectively control behavior that hurts our economy. What Obama should do is provide huge tax cuts to companies that consist of 100% American workers (must be a U.S. citizen to take advantage of any tax break) so they pay no taxes. To offset the loss in revenue, end the tax breaks for companies that have sent manufacturing and distribution centers offshore. In fact they should double their taxes and tax their offshore investments at 50% so they are strongly encouraged to invest in Amrica's infrastructure.

Implement something like this and the jobs will come back very quickly!

Then we might be able to afford health insurance from private companies.
by obwan222 December 23, 2009 10:13 PM EST
"From the recent behavior demonstrated by the dem. senate in dominating and excluding other representives [along w/ the citizens they represent] it is apparent that America is a one party state."


Actually the Reps excluded themselves. They had no intention of voting for any form of HC reform. So why would you compromise with people that don't bring any votes to the table?

And actually this in not a one-party country, there are still almost 17% of people that are willing to identify themselves as Republican.

"America was a fine experiment, had a grand begining, for awhile benefited others seeking freedom, but it's over"

Well, you can choose to believe that if you want, but I think that the US is still an excellent place to be and I look forward to the times to come. It's not perfect, but then what is? Thinking that just because you can't get your way that everything is over, well, that just seems - I don't know - UnAmerican.
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