December 20, 2009 1:35 PM

Brown: GOP Protecting Ebenezer Scrooge

By
David Morgan
(CBS)  Having rounded up the 60 votes needed to prevent a Republican filibuster of the health care reform bill, Senate Democrats are preparing for a vote later this week on the massive package.

Not everyone is pleased with all aspects of the 3,000-page legislation, but Democrats who have rallied around it are accusing the GOP of being obstructionists for the sake of protecting special interests who stand to lose if the bill becomes law.

If we do nothing to reform health care, said Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, on CBS' "Face the Nation" this morning, "insurance premiums are going to double. I'm amazed as I hear Republican after Republican take to the Senate floor and defend the insurance companies, practices worthy of Ebenezer Scrooge. The way they'd have it, is that the insurance companies would cancel Tiny Tim for a pre-existing condition."

Brown, who supported the public option which was jettisoned from the health care proposal, said he was disappointed in the legislation - "I think it could be a better bill" - but heralded the bill's insurance reform (such as ending exclusions for pre-existing conditions), end of gender discrimination in premiums, strengthening Medicare, and tax breaks for small businesses that ensure their employees.

"Most companies in Cincinnati and Cleveland and Columbus that I talk to want to insure their employees; they can't afford it," Brown said. "If they have 20 employees and one of them gets cancer, it makes their premiums unaffordable. This bill moves absolutely in the right direction."

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said more time would be needed to study the effects of the bill, and accused Democrats of subterfuge in scheduling a vote on the bill late at night.

"There's a reason why we're voting on it in the middle of the night," he told host Bob Schieffer. "They're trying to push it through before Christmas. There's a lot of explaining to do. I mean, how are you going to help Medicare by taking a trillion dollars out of Medicare over a ten-year period, at a time when Medicare is going broke in five years according to its trustees? How will taxes help create new jobs when we've got 10% unemployment? How are governors going to pay for the Medicaid expansion? Almost all of them are saying they'll have to raise state taxes. They'll have to raise college tuitions. Then what about the 16 million . . . who are getting dumped into Medicaid, the program for low-income Americans, where 50% of the doctors won't even see new Medicaid patients? There's a lot of explaining to do.

"It is outrageous in the middle of a snowstorm to give us a 2,700-page bill yesterday, start voting literally in the middle of the night, and say 'Let's pass it before we go home for Christmas.'

"We want to take the time to let the American people know what it costs, what it is, how it affects them. We believe when they find out, they won't like it any better than they do now and they won't allow Congress to pass it," Alexander said.

Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., disputed Alexander's claims, particularly that Democrats were forcing a late-night vote: "There's only one reason we'll be here for Christmas and that's Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.). We don't have to vote in the middle of the night. He's the one making us do it, not Harry Reid, the Democrats. It is a Republican obstructionist that is making us vote in the middle of the night."

[Sen. Coburn was one of the Republicans who tried to slow down and extend debate on the bill by having lengthy amendments read in their entirety on the Senate floor, a tactic which, The Hill reported, will be used as the Christmas Eve vote nears.]

Also, Landrieu said, "we've been discussing this issue for 40 years. Not four months, not four weeks: 40 years. We've debated this for 40 years. Since last March, this discussion has been public. So this business about 'they don't know what's in the bill'? It's been widely, widely distributed. The language has been on the Internet. We are going to get this done before Christmas."

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by american-american December 22, 2009 6:49 PM EST
Quote - earlysaid "It is wonderful that President Obama has renewed America's reputation in the world....... The Public Option is what we really need to compete against the insurance companies."

Obama has given this country a reputation of being weak. He has made us a laughing stock to every country he has visited. This so called public option is nothing but a government run insurance company that will be subsidised with YOUR tax money as well as mine. Then we will be charged again for it! The constitution bans the government from owning companies yet they continue to do it!

This is NOT the way to fix health care. Ask ANYONE in England or Canada who has had a family member DIE waiting for care that they were denied.

What needs to be done are things that the liberals REFUSE.
1. Put a limits on malpractice suits. Doctor's rates are so high because their liabillity insurance is INSANE! Liberals will not stand for this or any other form of tort reform because the liberals are mostly lawyers!

2. Open the health insurance market WIDE OPEN from coast to coast. Look at how low car and homeowner's insurance has gotten. Insurance companies have gotten the way they are because of the monopolies they have been able to create in every state.

Just these two items alone would make a HUGE reduction in costs. Our healthcare system is the best in the world. What is screwed up is the insurance monopolies. The liberals are not trying to fix this at all. They are trying to set up their own monopoly so they can have a piece of the pie if not the whole pie! CAN'T YOU SEE THIS?
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by noloyalisti December 22, 2009 4:18 PM EST
Well said Greg and starleo, it really is the health insurance companies running the country for their profit and well being only. As a small business owner, we are getting killed by the out of control costs. Yet the CONS are worried about passing something that will save us money. So now we have a watered down bill that the big insurance companies are celebrating as a huge victory. This is such a corrupt country, sorry to say.
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by Greg from Nashville December 22, 2009 3:45 PM EST
Just a question for you,

If the public option was removed, the expansion of Medicare was thrown out, the trigger for a public option laughed out, the Senate bill pays for itself and on top saves money. What is left that the reoublicans are whinning about? Are they saying they want insurance to boot out the sick people? Are they saying they don't mind premiums sky rocketing over the next 10 years? or Are they saying that millions of Americans aren't worth being in the halthcare system? I don't understand why they keep opposing progress, for a bunch of Christian folk they ain't very christian.

What kills me is that the republicans only have a stronghold in the south east of the country, and these Mountain Dew heads need healthcare, espeacially a little denistry.
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by noloyalisti December 22, 2009 1:38 PM EST
These Republicans are really a bunch of mentally disable people. They have gone off the deep edge. How many people do they have to kill or let die before we seek professional help? At a certain point of disaster, the may need to be locked up so they can't hurt anyone else including themselves.
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by starleo146 December 22, 2009 3:32 PM EST
They honestly have proven what a devious bunch of Insurance Lovers they are really. If they voted on all the Amendments they asked for, and approved them all to get a bipartisan vote. Why in the world did they still vote NO, they with their tactics, they got rid of the public option, they got rid of bringing more into medicare. Yet with all the amendments they have in their, they, all 40 of them voted NO. What does that tell you about how we fit with the republicans, you got it big business is more important as usual. If they have so much against this bill they had a mouth as proven by the last few days why didn't they offer up something that WILL HELP THE COUNTRY. I am a independent who has voted republican but never again, there dirty tricks like reading every word of every amendment and say we have not had enough time to even read the bill. The truth is they wanted to defeat ObAMA that was the most important thing to them and still is, as Mc Cain said we have just begun to fight, How about fighting for America Mc Cain, in your rhetoric which is so low and beyond of any intelligence, has got to show your vengeance never gets you anywhere. Get to work on the country Republicans, stop whining, flipping the bird Steele, get wise and help your country.Do not underestimate the power of the people, which you have done over and over.
by starleo146 December 22, 2009 3:32 PM EST
They honestly have proven what a devious bunch of Insurance Lovers they are really. If they voted on all the Amendments they asked for, and approved them all to get a bipartisan vote. Why in the world did they still vote NO, they with their tactics, they got rid of the public option, they got rid of bringing more into medicare. Yet with all the amendments they have in their, they, all 40 of them voted NO. What does that tell you about how we fit with the republicans, you got it big business is more important as usual. If they have so much against this bill they had a mouth as proven by the last few days why didn't they offer up something that WILL HELP THE COUNTRY. I am a independent who has voted republican but never again, there dirty tricks like reading every word of every amendment and say we have not had enough time to even read the bill. The truth is they wanted to defeat ObAMA that was the most important thing to them and still is, as Mc Cain said we have just begun to fight, How about fighting for America Mc Cain, in your rhetoric which is so low and beyond of any intelligence, has got to show your vengeance never gets you anywhere. Get to work on the country Republicans, stop whining, flipping the bird Steele, get wise and help your country.Do not underestimate the power of the people, which you have done over and over.
by rockcutr December 22, 2009 10:46 AM EST
Seems that our Poly ticks those who practice blood sucking lawmaking have turned to full fledged leaches.
Doing something even if it is wrong philosophy. These are assumed to be relativly intelegent folks we have making policy and law over thar in DC. Where no thing is real. By their actions these ticks have the uncanny ability to take a simple thing and over complicate it just because they can. While we may be able to vote these jokers into an office. We citizens have no say in how they do business. Unless of course you have tons of money not tins of coins. This is where Democracy turns green. For it is the green back which dictates to all suits of red tie, blue tie and neuter tie. Then with tounge in cheek and cash in pocket, have the nerve to vote yea or na upon how future generations are going to be bilked out of meger success of a life well lived only to die paupers. Well, it is the premice of the poly machine to keep the workers poor the country prospers. When this is totally upside down. It would be so much better if the poly ticks were actually serving the public as opposed to the Republic. Oh to have the ears of Franklin, Jefferson and Adams for a month to straighten out all the deception and lies which has become our nation of oppressing any class below the elete haves and have mores. Perchance to Dream. Suppose there would also be a price to pay for killing all the lawyers too. Maybe they could all fit in Gitmo. A thoughtful christmas gift to the lack of juris prudence.
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by Omni-Present101 December 22, 2009 9:17 AM EST
http://www.everydaycitizen.com/2009/09/ted_kennedy_richard_nixon_and.html

Republican President Richard M. Nixon: "Turning now to the rest of the agenda for 1974, the time is at hand this year to bring comprehensive, high quality health care within the reach of every American.

I shall propose a sweeping new program that will assure comprehensive health insurance protection to millions of Americans who cannot now obtain it or afford it, with vastly improved protection against catastrophic illnesses."

(Richard Nixon, January 30, 1974)
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Over 35 years ago, Senator Ted Kennedy tried to collaborate with President Richard Nixon to achieve a goal that both dearly desired: universal health care insurance for all Americans. It was an odd partnership, as Kennedy and Nixon were political rivals, and Nixon was fearful of running against Kennedy in the 1972 Presidential election.
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After Nixon won the elections, Kennedy began secret negotiations with the White House that almost led to an agreement on a health care plan. Nixon introduced his Comprehensive Health Insurance Act on Feb. 6, 1974.
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It would've built upon existing employer-sponsored insurance plans and would've provided government subsidies to the self-employed and small businesses to ensure universal access to health insurance.
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Sadly, the Watergate scandal derailed Nixon and Kennedy's efforts at health care reform.
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by wdh3007 December 21, 2009 3:15 AM EST
Gov Rick Perry for President in 2012!
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by maakahill December 22, 2009 11:17 AM EST
A republican governor from Texas in 2000, worked well for 6 years until the Democrats took control of both houses in 2006, all down hill from there. I don't argee with Bush on everything, but I certianly would rather see him in office than Obama.
by themooniac December 22, 2009 3:37 PM EST
Rick Perry is a moron. I know. I live in Texas.
by edgy44 December 21, 2009 1:11 AM EST
My retirement plans are to bomb a bank, get arrested, go to federal prison, where my health care and sexual needs will be fullfilled. Plus, I get room and board, three meals, and coca-cola. I'm pretty sure I can get PCP dipped marijuana as well. Keep working hard out there!
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by starving1968-1 December 21, 2009 1:00 AM EST
How sad.

I'm on beer number 6 after watching football all afternoon, and I STILL have to deliver an education to these highly illogical and uneducated conservatives, all because they ignore history and rely on Rush / Beck / Hannity to tell them what to think.

I'm going to bed.

Hopefully you can educate yourselves before we discuss something in the future.
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by edgy44 December 21, 2009 12:46 AM EST
Foley 1989 - 240B
Foley 1990 - 264B
Foley 1991 - 286B
Foley 1992 - 292B
Foley 1993 - 292B
Foley 1994 - 296B
Gingrich 1995 - 332B
Gingrich 1996 - 343B
Gingrich 1997 - 355B
Gingrich 1998 - 363B
Hastert 1999 - 353B
Hastert 2000 - 361B
Hastert 2001 - 359B
Hastert 2002 - 332B
Hastert 2003 - 318B
Hastert 2004 - 321B
Hastert 2005 - 352B
Hastert 2006 - 405B
Pelosi 2007 - 429B
Pelosi 2008 - 451B
Pelosi 2009 - 383B

Total Interest last 21 years: 7 Trillion
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