December 9, 2009 3:18 PM

Italy: Knox Verdict Hasn't Hurt U.S. Ties

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(CBS/ AP)  The murder conviction of U.S. student Amanda Knox has not damaged U.S.-Italian relations, despite suggestions the verdict was tainted by anti-American sentiment and negligence by investigators, a top Italian diplomat said Monday.

After a tense weekend, the diplomat sought to quell any speculation of a full-blown crisis, saying that no criticism had come from the U.S. secretary of state.

"Who criticized?" said Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini, answering to reporters in Brussels. "Certainly not Hillary Clinton. Let's not create confusion."

Clinton herself, speaking Sunday, said she had not looked into the case but would meet with anybody who had concerns. She said she had not expressed concerns to the Italian government.

Knox was convicted over the weekend of sexually assaulting and murdering her British roommate, Meredith Kercher, and sentenced to 26 years in jail.

Her co-defendant in the trial and former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito of Italy, was found guilty of the same charges and sentenced to 25 years in prison. All were studying in Perugia at the time of the 2007 slaying.

Knox and Sollecito have already been kept behind bars since shortly after the killing. They have maintained their innocence and plan to appeal.

The jury in Perugia has not issued the motivations and rationale for their ruling, but must do so within the next 90 days.

The verdict shocked the Knox family and other supporters of the 22-year-old from Seattle. They said evidence was scant and blamed the decision largely on the prosecutors' character assassination of Knox.

Sen. Maria Cantwell, a Democrat from Washington state, said in a statement that she had "serious questions about the Italian justice system and whether anti-Americanism tainted this trial." She didn't mention that Knox's co-defendant was an Italian.

She said that "other flaws in the Italian justice system on display in this case" included negligent handling of evidence and harsh treatment of Knox after her arrest, a charge the Italian police have denied.

Many noted that the jury, two judges and six civilians, had not been sequestered during the yearlong trial, and could therefore be influenced by any unfavorable coverage of the woman.

Media coverage of the case has been intense since Kercher's body was found in a pool of blood on Nov. 2, 2007, in the apartment she shared with Knox.

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Case Timeline
Amanda Knox: I am Not a Killer
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Saturday's verdict was delivered in the middle of the night in a packed, tension-filled courtroom, with hundreds of cameras and photographers assembled outside the tribunal.

Knox has alternately been depicted as a cold-blooded "she-devil" or as a clean-faced innocent foreigner who fell victim of a poor justice system. Back in the United States, the coverage has been largely favorable to the American and critical of the Italian handling of the case.

Lawyers say that misunderstandings were at least partially due to differences between the U.S. and Italian justice systems.

For example, the Italian system gives the presiding judge a great deal of discretion over the use of circumstantial evidence, said a criminal lawyer, Manrico Collaza. But he noted that allowing the next level of appeal, as Italy does, to deal with the facts of the case - and not be limited to issues of law - acts as balance.

"Many defendants have been saved by it," Collaza said.

Massimo Consolini, an expert on international law, pointed out that criticism of the Italian judicial system has centered on the length of trials that has led to many cases of charges being dropped because of a statute of limitations.

"It's not that one doesn't get a fair trial," he said. It's about "how long it takes to get justice."

He said "the prospects are good" for Knox to win a change on appeal.

However, it will be months before the appeals can open, and even longer to complete. Depending on when that happens, Knox and Sollecito will have spent possibly around three years in jail by then. (Sollecito was moved to a new prison in Terni on Monday, said one of his attorneys, Luca Maori.)

Knox was "tranquil" when she was visited Monday by some family members, said one of her lawyers, Luciano Ghirga. She has asked for permission to work in the prison laundry, and also intends to continue her education by pursuing correspondence courses with the University of Washington, the lawyer told The Associated Press.

"There's a bunch of people that are going home and they would like to see her before they go home but it's not going to happen," Edda Mellas, mother of the American convict, told CBS News outside the jail.

"Like everyone else, she is devastated. She was really hopeful," Mellas told "Early Show" co-anchor Harry Smith of the verdict, speaking by phone after visiting her daughter during the weekend.

"We're all crushed, but she got a lot of loving support when she got back to the jail from inmates and guards, all very supportive of her. And then we got to see her, she got to see her family. We told her to have courage," added Mellas.

Some in Italy were annoyed by criticism in the U.S. media and fired back.

Corriere della Sera, the country's leading newspaper, noted Monday that in America, "the passport is more important than an alibi."

"The (U.S.) administration cannot close Guantanamo, yet it finds the time to think about Perugia," the newspaper said.

Other cases in the past have stirred tension between the two countries, including the 2005 shooting death of an Italian intelligence officer in Iraq at the hands of a U.S. soldier.

In 1998, after a U.S. Marine jet sliced a ski gondola's cables in northern Italy killing 20 people, a U.S. military jury acquitted the pilot of manslaughter. (The pilot was later sentenced to six months in jail and was dismissed from the Marines for helping to destroy a videotape of the flight.)

More recently, an Italian court convicted in absentia 23 Americans - most of them CIA agents - on charges of kidnapping an Egyptian terror suspect.

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by dougcl79 January 5, 2011 9:51 PM EST
the thought Of the possibility of knowing that Amanda Knox will die in prison for what she did to meredith puts a smile on my face. I cant wait to see her devestation when she loses her appeal and gets a life sentence. If she was smart, she would have admitted what she did on the first trial, but she is not....like Peterson and Van Der Sloot, she's a sociopath
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by mejordelahistoria December 8, 2009 4:42 AM EST
Tomorrow I will go and buy as much italian food as I can, the best in the world and sit down and enjoy on my tv the sentencing of this murderer. Let's see if she does any cartwheels on her way to jail, like she did when she was arrested.
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by newyorkmom December 7, 2009 8:07 PM EST
i have to say...I love spaghetti
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by jayescas December 7, 2009 7:07 PM EST
To bankersvox

What is obtuse is Amanda's lies - framing another person for a crime they did not commit. Imagine that Liya Lumbaba had been wrongfully conficted for this crime because of Amanda's lies.

I believe that the verdicts on Amanda, her Italian boyfriend and Guede were just.

Assuming Amanda was innocent, she knows now how it feels to be wrongfully accused of a crime one did not commit.
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by scallywag12 December 7, 2009 7:03 PM EST
No vacations to Italy from me.
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by voxpopulus December 7, 2009 8:04 PM EST
You'd have to get a passport first
by jayescas December 7, 2009 6:55 PM EST
To pnut134

PLEASE stay home. I am sure ITALY and the intelligent people of Europe can do without you. Its a no brainer that the $ is worthless!! Better to stay home and save the money for AMANDA's appeal.
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by jayescas December 7, 2009 6:44 PM EST
To us_1776

You are concerned for the two kids. What about the third kid - the boy from Ivory coast that was also convicted?

If you discount the guilt and involvement of Amanda and her Italian boyfriend in the murder of Meredith, you should do the same for Guede has the three MURDERS were convicted based on the same evidence.

These murders were convicted based on DNA evidence that is now being disputed by the US media and uninformed people. Every defence Lawyer on earth cry DNA contermination for their client sake. It is a strategy - dispute every evidence to create doubt. Remenber OJ ? Thankfully it didn't work this time.

I pray that non of us never lose a love one. RIP MEREDITH.


I should add, prejudice is life and kicking on this site.
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by Justice4All1210 December 7, 2009 6:59 PM EST
Well said! Meredith Kercher will never return to her loving family.
by us_1776 December 7, 2009 7:14 PM EST
The evidence against Guede was overwhelming. He left a hand print, in the victim's blood, at the crime scene. He left traces of his DNA inside the victim, on her clothing, on her purse, and elsewhere. He also admitted being present at the scene, although he claimed someone else burst in and committed the murder while he was in the bathroom.

There seemed little doubt that a microscopic trace of Sollecito's DNA
had been detected on the bra clasp. But the DNA of at least three other, unidentified people was also found on the fastener.4 Where had all this DNA come from? Contamination seemed the likely answer. The fastener had remained at the crime scene for six weeks after the murder, during which time investigators went in and out of Kercher's room and made a mess of it while sorting through her belongings. Police video taken the day the fastener was bagged as evidence shows that it had been swept or kicked into a pile of clutter some distance from where it was initially spotted. Sollecito's DNA would have been present in the environment at Kercher's residence which he had visited many times over the past two weeks.

This is to take nothing away from the tragic loss to the Kercher family. Our sympathies go out to them.

But convicting two people without sufficient evidence is not justice.
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by SusanStoHelit December 7, 2009 5:53 PM EST
There was massive evidence against Amanda - forensic evidence - a knife, DNA from Amanda mixed with Meredith's dying blood, etc., and plenty of behavioral evidence - she comes home, door is unlocked, blood all over - and she never calls cops. She tries to find out where Meredith is for the other roommate - and never calls Meredith's cell phone. This is not 'quirky' behavior - this is clear consciousness of guilt behavior - and far less has convicted murderers here in America.

She got a fair trial - there's nothing for us to be upset with Italy about - not remotely. Only if you read the partial stories the media is putting up to keep all of the fools reading and angry, does it look wrong - if you read the whole story, all the evidence the American media pretends doesn't exist - this girl is clearly guilty.
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by us_1776 December 7, 2009 6:28 PM EST
You mean the knife that wasn't at the crime scene? The knife that didn't even match the imprint of the bloody knife left on the bed sheet? That knife? That knife would be excluded immediately in any sane court.
And the bra clasp that we saw being passed around between the investigators who were handling other objects. That was just ridiculously poor investigative work. Anybodys DNA could have been transferred onto that clasp.
Both girls DNA would be all over that apartment. And the fact that the two girls DNA was found mixed together proves absolutely nothing.
And how does a person react as a young college student who walks in on such a brutal scene? She was stunned.

There was no forensic evidence whatsoever that placed these two college students at the scene of the crime. ZERO. All the prosecutor had was his wild sex game theory and nothing for real evidence.
by SusanStoHelit December 7, 2009 6:32 PM EST
Yes, I mean the knife that was ONE OF the knives used to kill the victim. There were multiple killers, and multiple knives. And it was at the house of Amanda's boyfriend - yes indeed this knife would be admitted in American courts.

The bra clasp was properly taken care of and had a DNA sample on it large enough to preclude transfer as a mechanism. So sorry - nope you can't say transfer - the defense attorney's favorite game.

Amanda's DNA was found mixed in Meredith's dying blood, not underneath, but right up there on top - it does say something.

She was not stunned - she was blase. She did nothing. Didn't call police, didn't call her roommate's cell phone, nothing.

Plenty of forensic evidence. BTW - there was no forensic evidence placing the 3rd killer at the scene of the crime either - none of his DNA on the body - except for the rape kit. No DNA there from Amanda proves nothing, because the other killers also didn't leave DNA there either - or it was all wiped off.
by true559 December 7, 2009 5:37 PM EST
to us_1776:

If Amanda Knox were the victim and Ms. Kercher the alleged perpetrator, the US media would go absolutely nuts, calling for blood, Nancy Grace going after anyone who was anywhere near the victim. Remember those Dutch guys in the Holloway case? But because Amanda Knox is the murderer, she has to be innocent, she's been railroaded. It's hypocracy. If Clinton gets involved, she's demeaning her office.

Most Americans I know are decent people. This is about those who think they know everything because they watch US television and then bleat out things like 'boycott' and 'right now I hesitate to return to Italy after seeing this case against those kids'. Tell me, did you 'see' what happened to the murder victim? And how many US channels gave an interview to the victim's family? Doesn't matter: just don't tell me that the same people complaining now would be saying the OPPOSITE if Knox were the VICTIM and the British student and her Italian boyfriend were in the house when she died. Go ahead, stay in America.
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by brianbwb-2009 December 7, 2009 6:10 PM EST
I confess to having been away from the US for a while, so allow me the question,

Who is Nancy Grace?

I seem to remember an apoplectic, shrill, very "butch" lady screaming about the lead character in a film called "Hancock", do you mean to say that such a caricature of the dregs of humanity actually exists?

I guess I'll have to check the credits, I thought it was a male actor in drag, a cinematic commentary on the artificiality of Hollywood.
by true559 December 7, 2009 7:57 PM EST
To brianbwb:

Yes, Nancy Grace exists. Her fansite is NancyGraceDOTnet. Don't stare too long at the photo that greets you.
by pnut134 December 7, 2009 5:27 PM EST
We are scheduled for a Mediterranean vacation in 2011. I believe we will be staying away from Italy though, tyvm.

Actually, come to think about it, there really isn't anything from Italy I need to buy ever again either.
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by toldyouso21 December 7, 2009 11:05 PM EST
There is probably little from Italy that you could afford and they will not miss you there. Italy tends to be the play ground of the rich and intelligentsia--no need to muck that up with good ol' beer drinking, low class billy bobs...LOL
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