December 3, 2009 11:36 AM

Wary Congress Told More Troops Can Win War

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., appears on

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., appears on "Face the Nation" in Washington, Nov. 29, 2009. (CBS/Face the Nation)

(CBS/AP)  Updated at 5:05 p.m. EST

Confronted by a wary Congress, the president's chief military and diplomatic advisers insisted Wednesday the quick infusion of 30,000 troops into Afghanistan was the nation's last, best shot at winning the war and staving off "severe consequences for the United States and the world."

Lawmakers from President Barack Obama's own Democratic Party expressed deep skepticism about the plan's chances for success but conceded they had little likelihood of blocking it. Republican supporters of the troop increase had their own objections, chiefly Mr. Obama's announcement Tuesday night of a July 2011 timeline for beginning to bring American forces home.

The stakes are great - al Qaeda's ability to regroup and plan the next terrorist attack on Americans - Mr. Obama's top advisers warned during a day of hearings before House and Senate panels.

"We cannot defeat al Qaeda and its toxic ideology without improving and stabilizing the security situation in Afghanistan," said Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

With voter support of the war on the decline, Democrats questioned the escalation and sought assurances that Mr. Obama's target date to begin withdrawing troops was firm.

"It seems to me that the large influx of U.S. combat troops will put more U.S. Marines on street corners in Afghan villages, with too few Afghan partners alongside them," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

The hearings were aimed at building support among war-weary lawmakers for Mr. Obama's dramatic rewrite of the battle plan in Afghanistan. By the end of next summer, the president plans to increase to 100,000 the number of U.S. troops there, marking the largest expansion of the war since it began eight years ago. The new strategy also relies on a pledge by NATO to commit an additional 5,000 to 7,000 troops.

Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a vocal war critic who is a senior House Democrat overseeing military spending, predicted that Congress would pass a $40 billion war financing bill early next year to pay for the added deployments.

Murtha said he remains unconvinced the troop increase is a good idea but believes he and other anti-war Democrats will not be able to stop it. "It's not likely that there would be any circumstances where the president would lose this battle this year," he said.

At the same time, Murtha said he didn't think more troops would make the U.S. more secure.

"Al Qaeda can go any place. They don't have to be in Afghanistan," he told reporters.

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Despite the war's waning popularity among voters, there were few protesters on hand at Wednesday's hearings.

Republicans objected to the setting of a hard deadline for withdrawing troops and said Mr. Obama must be willing to delay the start of a pullout if security deteriorates.

"We don't want to sound an uncertain trumpet to our friends in the region," said John McCain, the Senate panel's top Republican and Obama's opponent in last year's presidential race.

As part of a full-court press by the White House to make the case for Mr. Obama's new strategy, Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, argued for the troop increase. But they also were careful with their words so as not to aggravate divisions on the issue.

They cast the war as serious but not hopeless. Mullen said the Taliban had regained ground in Afghanistan - gaining "dominant influence" in 11 of 34 provinces - but could be defeated with enough resources and time.

"While there are no guarantees in war, I expect that we will make significant headway in the next 18-24 months," he said.

Gates told lawmakers that the situation is far less dire than the violent chaos that gripped Iraq in 2006. Still, he said, "This will take more patience, perseverance and sacrifice by the United States and our allies."

He called the region the "epicenter of extremist jihadism," reminding lawmakers that local and foreign Muslims had joined forces there before - in defeating the former Soviet Union. "For them to be seen to defeat the sole remaining superpower in the same place would have severe consequences for the United States and the world," Gates said.

He suggested the July 2011 withdrawal date was both firm and flexible, frustrating lawmakers who said that wasn't possible.

"Which is it? It's got to be one or the other," said McCain.

When pressed, Gates said the beginning of drawing down troops would not necessarily be based on conditions in Afghanistan and that the president was committed to begin pulling at least some troops out by the target date

At the same time, the president will have the authority to change gears after the Defense Department conducts a formal assessment in December 2010. Gates said the July 2011 date was chosen because it would give the Marines two years to complete a security push in Helmand province that began last July.

"I do not believe we have locked ourselves into leaving," added Clinton. "But what we have done ... is to signal very clearly to all audiences that the United States is not interested in occupying Afghanistan."

She added that Afghan President Hamid Karzai's pledge to fight corruption "must now be met with action."

Vice President Joe Biden echoed the sentiment.

"The purpose is to make it clear to Karzai and his government, which have up to now been unwilling to step up to the ball, to make it clear that you now have to step up to the ball," Biden said on CBS' "The Early Show".

The buildup also will put more strain on troops by giving them less time than hoped for at home.

Mullen said supplying the extra forces for Afghanistan while there are still so many troops in Iraq will mean putting off for a couple of years the goal of lengthening the time they rest and retrain at home between tours of duty - a period the military calls "dwell time." The Army had been moving toward giving two years of dwell time between each one-year tour.

After meeting Wednesday with Karzai, U.S. Gen. Stanley McChrystal called Karzai's reaction to the new U.S. strategy "really positive. The president was very upbeat, very resolute this morning."

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said he expected the allies to bolster the American buildup with more than 5,000 additional troops. Gates said the allies would remain focused on the less volatile north and west of Afghanistan to "prevent the insurgency from establishing new footholds," while Americans focus on the south and east.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy hailed Mr. Obama's speech as "courageous, determined and lucid" but stopped short of pledging additional French troops.

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by nopatriot December 2, 2009 11:56 PM EST
Afghan should have response itself, why USA army there?
Terrorists dislike USA soldiers and stimulate their attacks much more.
I don't understand why try not to have negotiation with terrorists but random attacks on Afghan
and more troops. More Peace workers to negotiate with terrorists to make peace, it makes sense.

Army army, weapons, and attacks, but no conversations, and no communication so far.
It seems both people don't know how to talk to people.

If army have courage to die on the war, why not try to talk and negotiate with terrorists again and again,
otherwise, terrorists ( The other side) dislike USA or United Nation for ever and it may be true USA economy goes worse.
Obama said "Dislike war" but he is on same boat on the history of USA.

Talk and negotiation are really important on any business.
Why not between terrorists too.

Or if you want to arrest those terrorists, it makes sense.
But if workers for terrorists accept negotiation, hire them and let the terrorists group smaller to zero.

Do not like War movie or War game, people are not in the game computers.
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by RCC_Soldaten December 2, 2009 11:51 PM EST
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578990,00.html
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by BeckieBest December 3, 2009 12:51 AM EST
Fox "News" is garbage.

They're nothing more than the propaganda wing of the Republican party.
by mnbrant December 2, 2009 11:17 PM EST
I got a great idea that makes sense. A recent article in CBS noted that the Afghan people make better soldiers than us. We can use this to our advantage. Use psyops to leaflet the countryside with an offer of a job in a new U.S. Corps called Peacekeepers=U.S. Give them the best training and best Staff it with U.S. trained officers at first but after the first 6 years, Those that re-enlist can apply for officer training. Use them for peacekeeping missions in places that are war-torn like Africa. Pay them 1/2 U.S. soldiers wages for the 6 years they are in. After 6 years allow them citizenship, and allow them to immigrate with thier family. They will have earned it. Give them free housing if the agree to enlist in the reserves for an additional 3 years. Hire drivers to pick them up if they can't drive. Give them everything that they ask for. I guarentee that this will produce an almost limitless supply of soldiers at half pay with superior quality and loyalty than what we have now. If not you can come back to me and complain it did not work. Heh.
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by mnbrant December 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST
I am a commie with a job. Not really much you can do about it but b itch about it these days. heh
by scabbard2 December 2, 2009 10:30 PM EST
What exactly is the milestone that declares the war won??
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by BeckieBest December 2, 2009 11:45 PM EST
The President goes out on the flight deck of a warship and announces, "mission acomplished".

Oh yeah sorry....that was Bush.
by rykatspop December 2, 2009 10:22 PM EST
Don't tell me we are worried about the fanatics and crazies over there. We've been grappling with Iran for 35 years. They are out for our skins, but how little we do there. We make weak threats. We dare Iran to cross that line in the sand, and they cross it with no fear. That's a fight we've been avoiding forever. Iran bullies us all the time. They stick it right in our face, and we tremble. Yeah, we're in Afghanistan to take on the religious nut jobs. Sure we are. No, we're there for something else, and it's not human rights or democracy. Just look at Iran.
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by BeckieBest December 2, 2009 11:47 PM EST
Perhaps if we hadn't already wasted so much blood, money, and credibility in Iraq we could actual do something about Iran.
by rykatspop December 2, 2009 10:15 PM EST
Yes, go to Afghanistan to open more markets for Nike, Walmart, GM, Ford, GE, MobilExxon, Target, Pepsi, McDonalds, etc. Yes, promote all of these wonderful values. Share this wonderful crap with the world. We must kill more of our young troops in order to preserve our way of life--eating fast food, watching big screen tv's, sucking beer and lattes. Nothing wrong with any of that--as long as we don't force the weak to carry our fat burden. Get real America, this war is about corporate greed, not democracy. Well wait a minute, corporate democracy: sticking it to everyone but the executive offices.
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by YoureSoWrong10 December 2, 2009 11:04 PM EST
Get real, tiny Marxist Studies majors. You are unemployable halfwits and the women you desire are with other men tonight. Or the men you secretly desire are with other men tonight. Pathetic.
by rykatspop December 2, 2009 11:22 PM EST
Have another drink and go to sleep. Have some apple pie as you sing the pledge of allegiance in your drunken stupor. I believe in capitalism. I just don't believe in the corporations that run and game the system against the good Americans--many who are out of work now, you corporate lemming. What are you, some night shift manager at a Staples store? Starbucks? Walmart (shoe dept.)?
by YoureSoWrong10 December 2, 2009 9:39 PM EST
I sure hope I didn't hurt any coward's feelings.
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by ludvig1-2009 December 2, 2009 9:32 PM EST
Why don't we just leave and let the Taliban take over and invite Al Quaeda back in to blow up another American city. I'm a Democrat, but I can't believe the loser attitude that the Democrats seem to be exhibiting.
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by melchg07 December 2, 2009 9:48 PM EST
I agree.

We've spent 7 years there with under 30,000 troops....while at the same time the Pakistani government was merely an ally in name only.

Finally during the last months of his Presidency Bush added more troops....then Obama added more troops in his first months in office. Pakistan finally in the last year figured out that they had to make a move as the Taliban appear to bite off more than they can chew when they tried making inroads in Pakistan.

Now that the Pakistani government has acted, they simply just can't go back, they can only go forward at this point, which means that they have to play ball....while this will likely result in more violence in the short term, it will undoubtly be in the long term favor of the US and our Ally's.

I'm glad that Obama took some time to gather many heads together to really think things through.

Many people are wanting to leave when really the war has for the most part just gotten started.
by wyodutch December 2, 2009 9:18 PM EST
The Obama administration already planned to spend $73,000,000,000 on Afghanistan in the fiscal year 2010. Now the total will be over $100,000,000,000 ? around five times the financial year 2005 level ? with more potentially needed to train the Afghan army.
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by yelobrikroad December 2, 2009 8:33 PM EST
All Obama wants is HIS photo op on a carrier with the "Mission Accomplished" banner proudly flying in the background over the flight deck.

Silly rabbit!
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by pigsinlipstick December 2, 2009 8:52 PM EST
at least the conservative war mongers are happy today
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