November 19, 2009 10:40 AM

Report: Senate Health Bill to Cost $849B

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(AP)  The political stakes enormous, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid launched long-awaited health care legislation Wednesday estimated to extend coverage to 94 percent of eligible Americans at a cost of $849 billion.

Initial maneuvering on the Senate floor was expected later in the week on the measure, bitterly opposed by Republicans eager to deny President Barack Obama a victory on his top domestic priority.

Officials have said the measure would require most Americans to carry health insurance and would mandate large companies to provide coverage to their workers, as well as ban insurance company practices such as denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions.

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As rank-and-file Democrats gathered to learn details of the measure, a senior Democratic leadership aide said the Congressional Budget Office had estimated it would spread coverage to 31 million Americans who currently lack it while still reducing federal deficits by a total of $127 billion over 10 years.

The aide also cited a CBO estimate that the bill would achieve cuts of $1 trillion over a decade in projected health care costs. The estimate of 94 percent coverage was less than the 96 percent estimated for legislation the House passed earlier this month, but no precise comparisons were possible without as-yet-unreleased CBO documentation.

The aide spoke on condition of anonymity, saying rank-and-file senators had not yet learned of the details.

Aides have said previously much of the bill would be financed by cuts in projected Medicare payments. Reid has also had under consideration higher payroll taxes for upper wage earners, but there was no word on whether he had decided to incorporate that provision into the measure he crafted.

At its core, the bill would set up new insurance marketplaces — called exchanges — primarily for those who now have a hard time getting or keeping coverage. Subsidies would be available to help defray the cost of coverage for people with lower incomes.

Reid announced two weeks ago it would also include an option for consumers to purchase government-sold insurance, with states permitted to drop out of the system.

Senators emerging from their closed-door meeting with Reid provided further details of the bill.

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said the legislation would impose a higher payroll tax on families earning more than $250,000 a year. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., said all consumers who purchase insurance from private companies in the exchange would have access to abortion coverage.

He said plans without abortion coverage also would have to be sold, giving consumers a choice. That is less restrictive than a provision in the House-passed bill that has angered liberals and abortion rights supporters.

In a sign of the challenge confronting Reid, the Nevada Democrat met earlier in the day with Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, moderates within his party who have expressed reservations about the bill.

"He is walking through the particulars with them," said Reid's spokesman, Jim Manley. "We need 60 votes to get this bill to the floor."

Nelson later issued a statement strongly suggesting he would vote with fellow Democrats on an initial showdown expected within days. Landrieu said, "I'm not going to be for anything that doesn't drive down costs over time."

Lincoln, the only one of the three who faces re-election next year, told reporters, "We'll wait and see."

With the support of two independents, Democrats have 60 seats, the precise number needed to choke off any Republican delaying tactics. None of the 40 Republicans is expected to defect on the first test vote, expected by weekend.

Ahead lie weeks — if not more — of unpredictable maneuvering on the Senate floor, where Reid and his allies will seek to incorporate changes sought by Democrats and repel attempts by Republicans to defeat the legislation and inflict a significant political defeat on the president.

Reid was releasing his legislation more than a week after the House approved its version of the health care bill on a near party-line vote of 220-215.

According to estimates from the Congressional Budget Office, that House bill, with a price tag of about $1.2 trillion, would result in coverage for tens of millions of uninsured, and provide 96 percent of the eligible population with insurance.

Two Senate committees approved different versions of a health care bill earlier in the year, and while Reid has said he would produce a blend of the two proposals, in fact he had a virtual free hand to come up with a plan that could command the 60 votes needed to pass.

Anticipating a major struggle, the White House deputized Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle to join Vice President Joe Biden in trying to clear the way for the bill's approval over the next several weeks.

Salazar, a former Colorado senator, is viewed as a bridge to moderate Democrats who are far outnumbered by liberals inside the Democratic caucus.

Daschle was Obama's first choice for secretary of health and human services, a position from which he was to try and oversee the administration's drive to enact health care legislation. He withdrew his nomination when it was disclosed he had not paid more than $120,000 in federal taxes over several years.

AP
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by chevyhotrod November 19, 2009 7:25 AM EST
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."

"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government."

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual"

Thomas Jefferson
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by josephmax November 19, 2009 4:56 AM EST
Pardon my ignorance as an outsider, but it seems strange that a country that spends something like a trillion dollars ( per annum) on it military, balks at spending less over 10 years to see to the health of it's citizens. There used to be a time when a 'trillion' was in the realm of hyperbole. Somehow one can't help wondering if the founding fathers would be shaking their heads at how the country had lost its way. Does no one find the military budget more disturbing than helping people in great need..... It's even more disturbing at how rabid people become at the prospect of others being helped. Hope someone can follow this train of thought up the ladder to the decision makers....
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by nextgenman09 November 19, 2009 5:59 AM EST
Its called the Stoopid American Syndrome.
by 2012EOD November 19, 2009 6:12 AM EST
Joe, ignorance is what you have. Of the Trillion dollars, we spend that keeping other nations safe with bases there. I agree, let's pull all the troops out and bring them home, close the borders, and start drilling for oil here at home. You know who is holding us back, the environmentalist, they won't let us drill.

Dems, answer this question.
Why can China drill for oil off of Florida, but we cannot?
by searingtruth November 18, 2009 10:25 PM EST
"There is a battle for good. But we are not fighting it."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by bubbadubba November 18, 2009 10:24 PM EST
The GOP health plan - let the working class suffer and die like dogs while they laugh and party with corporate big wigs and get fat off bribe money.
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by askagain November 19, 2009 1:45 AM EST
The working class health plan - let the wealthy pay while the working class enjoys the benefits. A result poll shows that Americans want health care reform as long as someone else pays for it. Let those who want reform pay for it. They will appreciate it more if they have to pay for it.
by askagain November 19, 2009 1:59 AM EST
correction

The working class health plan - let the wealthy pay while the working class enjoys the benefits. A recent poll shows that Americans want health care reform as long as someone else pays for it. Let those who want reform pay for it. They will appreciate it more if they have to pay for it.
by bubbadubba November 18, 2009 10:23 PM EST
<<<They lie. It is neither a true figure or possible for the federal government to do for this price. It is immoral to spend. You don't spend what you don't have. We don't have it. All of the pseudo explanations on paying for it are pure garbage.>>>

I get your point, just like the two bogus wars we are trapped in that are costing us trillions of dollars.
But if I had my choice to spend money the US doesn't have on killing innocent civilians in Iraqi-nam and Afghanistan-nam or health care, I would choose to help my fellow Americans not suffer and die.
I am still waiting on someone to explain how it is good that the US is the only democratic country in the world that does not provide healthcare to its people THE ONLY COUNTRY.
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by on_alert247 November 18, 2009 11:32 PM EST
What is Medicare and Medicaid?
by smartasss1 November 18, 2009 10:22 PM EST
The GOP health reform plan: Take 2 tax breaks and call me in the morning.
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by the74blaster November 18, 2009 10:07 PM EST
I think its time to state the obvious. The GOP does not want to see this bill become reality since it will hurt the insurance industry.

We are we going to learn the GOP does not represent the best interests of this country.

For example when Bush was president it was more important to start an optional war in Iraq using fale pretenses. This was done to provide big oil wth access to the oil fields, provide a huge income opportunty for the defense contractors..especially those who were awarded no bid contracts and to settle an old personal score. Why else would they begin war planning 6 months befoe 911?

When our economy began to crash the GOP ignored it until it was obvious that the banks would fail before te election, and then they acted.

Its a simple matter of priorities for the GOP. If they gave a hoot about anybody other tan their base, this health care issue would have been addressed long ago.

Instead the GOP costatly divides th electorate by using the conservative press to fuel the abortion dabate and other issues that have far lss importance to our country.

In the words of Gandhi "poverty is the worst form of terrorism".

So when is our government going to wake up and realize its time to reverse the job flow out of America by taxing the companies so they cannot compete with those who do their patriotic duty by employing American workers, in the U.S. markets?

The GOP does not represent our country so we should give them what they deserve, unemployment.
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by jgg000015 November 18, 2009 10:31 PM EST
so tell us, o wise one, what exactly has gotten better with one year of obama? The economy? The wars? Unemployment? Home foreclosures?
by IL-Independent November 19, 2009 7:51 AM EST
First of Dem,
that is NOT why they do not want this bill. READ WHAT THEY ARE SAYING YOU FOOL. I love you idiots on this site.

"When our economy began to crash the GOP ignored it until it was obvious that the banks would fail before te election, and then they acted."

Oh my, another foolish error. um, WRONG. Go back to 2005 when Richard Shelby was chairman of the finance committee. It was Chris Dodd, A DEMOCRAT who said that there was no reason to regulate the banks. The same man who said that all the banks were sound, just before they collapsed.

The GOP does not represent our country so we should give them what they deserve, unemployment.

It's so funny you say that, I know plenty of Republicans who feel the same way about democrats.
by smac761 November 18, 2009 9:47 PM EST
They lie. It is neither a true figure or possible for the federal government to do for this price. It is immoral to spend. You don't spend what you don't have. We don't have it. All of the pseudo explanations on paying for it are pure garbage.
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by searingtruth November 18, 2009 9:24 PM EST
"One day there will be no death and suffering, except that delivered by the hand of man."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by djaymick November 18, 2009 9:19 PM EST
I have a few questions with this whole thing:
1) Why is $900B the magic number? Because Obama said so? if the savings are actually achieved, this won't even cover the losses we experienced just last month. If our spending habits continue, this will be viewed as chump change.
2) As we've seen this week, the government put out a report on breast cancer examinations. A lot of people are complaining, but will fall on deaf ears once this passes. What other necessary exams will be rationed by the "governmental experts"?
3) How does the 94% coverage compare to the existing number of people with coverage? 5%, 10%?
4) We've seen the GOP plan, so we spend $800B more to get an additional $40B in savings in the Democratic plan. This makes no sense. Would any of your readers justify this?
5) I see that the Medicare tax will be extended to people who make over $500K. FICA is made up of two parts - Social Security and Medicare. Both are deducted from the employees paycheck, but employers are required to match this deduction. Will companies be responsible for this match? What effect on hiring will this have? Will they pay people less, so they don't have to pick up an additional expense?
6) Are illegal immigrants covered in this plan? This was a promise by the President, that made Joe Wilson the talk of the town for weeks.
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