Official: Hasan's Coworkers Had Concerns

Other Residents Worried He Wasn’t a Good Candidate, Uneasy that Fort Hood Suspect Was Proselytizing to Patients

(CBS)  Fellow medical residents of army psychiatrist Maj. Nadil Malik Hasan, the suspect in the shooting rampage at Fort Hood, had concerns that he wasn’t a good candidate as a physician and they were concerned that he was proselytizing, or preaching his Islamic faith to patients, a U.S. Defense official told CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier.

“The concerns were raised to higher levels of management at Walter Reed,” he said. “But people who reviewed his case did not see his performance as so poor that he needed to be kicked out of the residency program,” the official told Dozier. “And you’ve got to remember, those discussions happen in every residency class. You will always have one out of five that isn’t measuring up - so Hasan-as-problem-case was standard that way.”

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, could not confirm that someone at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center thought Hasan was psychotic.

“But trying to prove that someone’s psychotic is very difficult,” he said. “When someone is really intelligent, but may be only mildly psychotic, particularly when they are trained … it’s hard to spot. A trained psychiatrist knows the answers to give to throw people off.”

The official said that many of Hasan’s former colleagues were crushed by what happened.

“Before people leap to judgment and judge them as not stopping this person, just understand, they’re not mind readers or magicians, and in some cases, you just don’t know what’s going to happen in the mind of the individual,” he said.

[american_11-2009]

This confirm what many have believed for a long time..Liberalism and Political correctness is a form of mental illness being PC allows liberals form facing and avoiding the true so many truths cannot be discussed because they are hide behind the PC fence and racist facade!

[reveal4]

Political Correctness is the ability to express your personal viewpoint without insulting other folks. Political correctness is not assuming personal superiority based on your political viewpoints. Political correctness is letting the weight and validity of your argument speak for itself. Political correctness is behaving yourself, respecting others, and practicing manners and decorum. The right wing abhors political correctness because these are not qualities they respect or practice. .

[yappyone]

There is no room for "political correctness" when it comes to followers of Islam and Muhammed. What Islam/Muhammed taught is VERY DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT.

Only the first few chapters of the Quran are about "peaceful" things; but it is all NEGATED by Muhammed later.

Muhammed was a dictator and control freak. He was a fasle prophet.

[actornaught]

by yappyone November 13, 2009 11:56 AM EST

So you must feel the same about anybody that resembles Timothy McVeigh, extreme rightwing anti-government types.

It's called "prejudice"...

[cleric60]

Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim. Muslims have increased by over 235 percent in the last fifty years up to nearly 1.6 billion. Islam is the second largest religious group in France, Great Britain and USA (Muslims in USA are 10 millions) So, 10 millions of our USA Muslims are into killing/murdering to win/gain members of their Islamic faith tradition. If this is true, we should be have a blood-bath throughout our nation. Again, we can't make windows in a person's soul. It's their actions that may be treason against our nation, not their faith or beliefs. Interestingly, we have a number of Muslim physicians and nurses in our hospitals.

[cleric60]

"they were concerned that he was proselytizing, or preaching his Islamic faith to patients, a U.S. Defense official told CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier." As a professionally trained medical chaplain, we were trained NOT to attempt proselytizing or preaching our own faith tradition to our patients or their family members. This army "psychiatrist" should have been professionally disciplined by his superiors.

[cleric60]

"they were concerned that he was proselytizing, or preaching his Islamic faith to patients, a U.S. Defense official told CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier." As a professionally trained medical chaplain, we were trained NOT to attempt proselytizing or preaching our own faith tradition to our patients or their family members. This army "psychiatrist" should have been professionally disciplined by his superiors.

[bubbadubba]

So those people violated their oaths and did not do everything possible to stop an enemy of the US?
They cared more about their jobs than our country so they didn't make a big deal out of it and do everything possible to stop this "threat" to the US?
Now they come forward and run their mouths and they think we care?
Losers. They are no better than a civilian who suspects someone is going to blow up a building and keeps quiet except the civilian is doing it out of fear or apathy, those freaks kept quiet to protect their namby pamby jobs.
Think about it.

[bradkt1]

Then why didn't the Army act on those concerns? There has been a lot of finger-pointing between the DOD and those who investigated Hassan's ties to whoever and the investigator(s) had nothing to go on except for Hassan's military file (which apparently had none of these concerns contained in it) and the fact that he was an Army psychologist who was investigating the phenomena of suicide bombers...which appeared on the surface to be a part of his professional duties. He was counseling soldiers who had returned from sombat duty in the Middle East. In retrospect (and with 20-20 hindsight), this was a tragic mistake that led to the Fort Hood massacre.

Of course there is plenty to question after the fact. I am not trying to defend anyone and I know that what I am saying may not be popular...but so be it. I am just trying to put this in some kind of perspective. I strongly believe that the fact that this was an officer played a major role in this (as opposed to political correctness). Army officials (and many others) were absolutely stunned that the perpetrator of this atrocity turned out to be a major in the Army. Before this happened, who ever thought than an Army major would have done something like this?

It never occurred to them.

[armyoftwelve]

Unfortunately, "diversity" and political correctness get put ahead of doing the right thing for our troops.

[50BMS13]

armyoftwelve
You got that right. It has got to be real tough for our troops who are putting their lives on the line knowing that the Commander in Chief isn't sure what to do.

[kenhamlett]

"A trained psychiatrist knows the answers to give to throw people off."

Oh come on folks, it is not a matter of answering the questions in the manner a shrink wants to hear them that determines a problem. Shrinks simply make up their determination based on what is most convenient for themselves. There are no right or wrong answers.
I am going to temporarily suspend my belief that Hasan was a nut hiding in the system to point out that there are two things that determine a mental problem. 1. How much can the shrink profit from declaring the person to have a problem? 2.How can someone else benefit from having the shrink determine there is a problem?
Since neither condition applied in the matter of Hasan, there was no basis for any determination that there might be a problem.
In other words, the shrinks have no knowledge of the causes of mental illness and certainly no cures. What they have is either the goal of profit or the undermining of the rights of their victims.
While Hasan may be nuts to the rest of us, he was fine medically since there is no rational basis for psychiatry or its laughable attempts at logic.

[Xamkr]

Oh, those mentally-ill people, with their drug abuse, and their homelessness, and their suicides: they're always doing something to keep us guessing! Those crazy kids. Bless their hearts.

[SusanStoHelit]

You know - not everything is about money. Most people are good and honest, and don't make diagnosis for the money. Just try to remember - not everyone is as obsessed about money as you may be.

[Xamkr]

Are you lazy, mediocre, mildly psychotic? Then you can be an Army psychiatrist! See your local recruiter for details.