Unemployment Rate Soars Past 10 Percent

10.2% Jobless Rate the 1st Double-Digit Figure Since 1983; Employers Slash 190,000 Jobs in October

(CBS/ AP)  The U.S. unemployment rate has hit double digits for the first time since 1983 - and is likely to go higher.

The 10.2 percent jobless rate for October shows how weak the economy remains even though it is growing. Rising unemployment also could threaten the recovery if it saps consumers' confidence and makes them more cautious about spending as the holiday season approaches.

Nearly 16 million Americans can't find jobs even though the worst recession since the Great Depression has apparently ended.

The unemployed rate jumped to 10.2 percent, the highest since April 1983, from 9.8 percent in September, the Labor Department said Friday. The economy shed a net total of 190,000 jobs, more than economists had expected.

The number of unemployed hit 15.7 million, up from 15.1 million. The job losses occurred across most industries, from manufacturing and construction to retail and financial. The job-loss total is based on a survey of businesses, separate from a survey of households that produces the unemployment rate.

Economist Michael Darda, who forecast double-digit unemployment early this year, now sees a turn.

"We are literally three months away from job losses stopping. And about 6 months away from job growth restarting in my view," Darda told CBS News correspondent Anthony Mason.

But the economy has shed well over 7 million jobs in this recession, and economist Lakshman Achuthan tells Mason the hardest hit is manufacturing.

"Even if GDP grows at 10 percent, you're not getting those jobs back. It's a structural permanent change," he said.

Economists say the unemployment rate could reach 10.5 percent next year because employers remain reluctant to hire.

President Barack Obama called the new jobs report another illustration of why much more work is needed to spur business creation and consumer spending. Noting legislation he's signing to provide additional unemployment benefits for laid-off workers, Mr. Obama said, "I will not rest until all Americans who want work can find work."

Still, counting those who have settled for part-time jobs or stopped looking for work, the unemployment rate would be 17.5 percent, the highest on records dating from 1994.

"It's not a good report," said Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist for New York-based investment firm Miller Tabak & Co. "What we're seeing is a validation of the idea that a jobless recovery is perfectly on track."

Read more about the soaring unemployment rate at CBSNew.com's Econwatch

Republicans quickly pounced on the double-digit unemployment number.

"With so many families looking for work, it is time the Obama administration stop spreading their phony 'saved or created' talking points and start creating the dependable jobs America needs," Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele said in a statement.

Last week, the Obama administration touted White House stimulus efforts as having saved or created more than a million jobs, through a mix of federal contracts and tax cuts.

Friday's report is the first since the government said last week that the economy grew at a 3.5 percent annual rate in the July-September quarter, the strongest signal yet that the economy is rebounding. But that isn't fast enough to spur rapid hiring.

"You need explosive growth to take the unemployment rate down," Greenhaus said in an interview Thursday.

The economy soared by nearly 8 percent in 1983 after a steep recession, Greenhaus said, lowering the jobless rate by 2.5 percentage points that year. But the economy is unlikely to improve that fast this time, as consumers remain cautious and tight credit hinders businesses. In fact, many analysts expect economic growth to moderate early next year, as the impact of various government stimulus programs aimed at home and car buying fade.

The stock market seesawed in early afternoon trading. The Dow Jones industrial average added about 25 points, while broader indexes were mixed.

High unemployment is likely to become a political liability for Obama and Democrats in Congress. Most economists expect the jobless rate will remain above 9 percent through next November, when congressional elections are held. When unemployment topped 10 percent in the fall of 1982, President Ronald Reagan's Republican Party lost 26 seats in the House.

Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill traded blame over the unemployment figures.

Rep. Barney Frank, the Massachusetts Democrat who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, said the economy would have been much worse had congressional Democrats not approved Obama's $787 billion stimulus package in February.

Republicans countered that Obama's focus on increased spending was making things worse.

"More debt, more spending ... clearly has not worked - particularly in a time of double-digit unemployment," said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

One sign of how hard it still is to find a job: The number of Americans who have been out of work for six months or longer rose to 5.6 million, a record. They account for 35.6 percent of the unemployed population, matching a record set last month.

Congress sought to address the impact of long-term unemployment this week by approving legislation extending jobless benefits for the fourth time since the recession began. The bill would add 14 to 20 extra weeks of aid and is intended to prevent almost 2 million recipients from running out of unemployment insurance during the upcoming holiday season.

October was the 22nd straight month the U.S. economy has shed jobs, the longest on records dating back 70 years. The report showed job losses remain widespread across many industries. Manufacturers eliminated a net total of 61,000 jobs, the most in four months. Construction shed 62,000 jobs, down slightly from the previous month.

Retailers, the financial sector and leisure and hospitality companies all continued to reduce payrolls. The economy has lost a net total of 7.3 million jobs since the recession began in December 2007.

The average work week was unchanged at 33 hours, a disappointment because employers are expected to add more hours for current workers before they begin hiring new ones.

There were some bright spots in the report. Education and health care added 45,000 jobs.

Professional and business services companies also added 18,000 jobs, according to the government report. And temporary employment grew by 33,700 jobs, after losing positions for months. That's a positive sign because employers are likely to add temporary workers before hiring permanent ones.

"That is always in our business a precursor to more permanent jobs becoming available," said Tony McKinnon, president of Management Recruiters International, an executive recruiting firm.

Still, economists expect jobs likely will remain scarce even as the economy improves. Diane Swonk, chief economist at Mesirow Financial, said that small businesses, a primary engine of job creation, still face tight credit and don't have the cash reserves to support extra workers.

And many companies are squeezing more production from their existing work forces. Productivity, the amount of output per hour worked, jumped 9.5 percent in the third quarter, the Labor Department said Thursday.

That's the sharpest increase in six years and followed a 6.9 percent rise in the second quarter. The increases enable companies to produce more without hiring extra people.

While the unemployment rate hasn't yet topped the post-World War II high of 10.8 percent set in December 1982, many experts say this recession is worse.

The work force, on average, is older now as the baby boomers have aged and fewer teenagers are out looking for work. Gary Burtless, an economist at the Brookings Institution, notes that older workers are more likely to be employed than younger ones. As a result, it takes a tougher job market to push the rate to 10 percent.

"This may be the toughest employment situation we've seen in the postwar era," Mark Gertler, an economics professor at New York University, said in an interview earlier this week.

[johnlloydsch]

The Democrats will fix this unemployment. It will go up another three percent after HR 3962 passes.

[bann65]

Change you can believe in. This dumbo should have the ecnonmy ROLLING by now, instead he's suppressing it and costing us billions. We CANNOT afford Mr. Obama and his co-horts.

[hungry1968-17]

I've come to the conclusion that posters such as this one, are members of the GOP, and are being paid to post here.

That's why they only throw around the "scary labels", but they NEVER post any facts to support their statements.

[bann65]

Paid by the GOP, lol. Honey all you have to do is open your eyeballs and your ears and see what's happening in our country. This puppet Obama and his co-horts are bringing our country DOWN. Read my lips, DOWN. Anybody that thinks otherwise is living in lala land.

[askagain]

That's strange. It sounds like some of the Obama supporters read from a script. A script that that is mindlessly read and repeated over and over again. No facts, no analysis, just a well rehearsed script. Now it appears, if you don't support President Obama, you must be a paid poster. How silly.

[A_Moderate]

"This puppet Obama" LOL... How about adding Bushes last 8 years to the mix? We did not get here in the last year alone! The path down started with Clinton. Bush greatly accelerated the slide down. And now Obama is continuing things. It seems no matter who we elect GOP or Democrat, WE the people lose.

[legacyABQ2]

bann65 and others-

Economies dont move 5 or 6 percentage points easily or quickly. You know that this economic slump is beyond politics, and it started before Obama was elected.
It is still playing itself out. These things take time. Economies play by their own rules.
By next Summer things will finally be better.

You'll see!

[redmooseak]

bann65 said: "This puppet Obama and his co-horts are bringing our country DOWN. Read my lips, DOWN. Anybody that thinks otherwise is living in lala land." What you say is true, but you have to remember that lala land is a BLUE STATE. Many of the other Blue States are apparently being considered for annexation into lala land as well.

[phintel]

I'm fed up with journalistic exaggeration. The headline uses the verb "soars." Soars means shooting up to 60% or 70% quickly! The headline should have been, "Unemployment Rate slightly exceeds 10%" or "Unemployment rate increased a fraction of 1% during the past month", or "Unemployment rate of increase has slowed down", etc.

[A_Moderate]

We are now living in a "New Order" and a "New Reality" The past is gone and the future is not bright for most. It really does not matter who is elected! And the fighting between the so called "Right" and "Left" is all part of a mass manipulation. And most people are buying it. I am not a believer in a "conspiracy theory" but it is hard to understand why no matter who we elect, nothing ever changes. So get use to the way things are. It is the way it is. Oh, and the real unemployment rate is about 15 - 19 %.

[hungry1968-17]

by mav547166 November 7, 2009 1:45 PM EST
Hungry- Trickle up economics was tried in the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, China, and SE Asia, and were forced to change or fall. I'm sorry they did not properly label the Communist Manifesto as science fiction when you found your copy.







LOL!!

That wasn't "trickle up economics", dummy!! That was communism!! "Trickle up" is when you give money to the poor so that they can stimulate the economy. (You know, like that CONSERVATIVE Bush did when he gave out those $300 and $600 checks, over 3 or 4 times during his presidency. Obama is trying to emulate those failed policies.

You also might want to notice that the economies of the Soviet Union, China, most of Europe, and almost ALL of SE Asia (except for N Korea), are booming and thriving, while ours in the SH** can, and we owe many of those countries BILLIONS in debt. (Except for China of course we owe them TRILLIONS!)

Keep guessing. You aren't even CLOSE to reality!

[hungry1968-17]

Correction: "Obama is NOT trying to emulate those failed policies."

[mav547166]

Are you serious, I thought you might at least have some sort of clue about the left, but to make it as simple as possible for you. Socialism = Communism lite. You know power to the people, workers unite type of thing.

Anyway the principle is that everyone gets paid the same ie brain surgeon = janitor.

By the way our economy is about 4 times bigger than the next largest of Japan or China even when it is in a recession. When you figure out the basis for your political views your responses will at least sound educated.

[louiville35]

I guess that Obama voodoo economics sucks, in fact it's really hard to find a trickle up one that has ever worked but here we are trying again!

WC Fields- "if at first you don't succeed try, try again then give up no sense being a damn fool about it"

[hungry1968-17]

When has a "trickle up" policy EVER been tried, much less failed?

And what makes you think that is what Obama is trying to do now?

[mav547166]

Hungry- Trickle up economics was tried in the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, China, and SE Asia, and were forced to change or fall. I'm sorry they did not properly label the Communist Manifesto as science fiction when you found your copy.

[curse914]

by louiville35 November 7, 2009 11:40 AM EST
I guess that Obama voodoo economics sucks, in fact it's really hard to find a trickle up one that has ever worked but here we are trying again!

WC Fields- "if at first you don't succeed try, try again then give up no sense being a damn fool about it"

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Seriously, Louiville, crack open a book or something. You need remedial econ.

And debate 101 would be an excellent choice too since you never back up your assertions. And since I am making the suggestion to back up assertions. I am asserting you are a dim bulb and your post attached above is exhibit A.

[rocketjl]

Please provide more money for math in our schools. We are supposed to have the best of the best in the White House supporting the President. Now, I hear the WH says it saved/gained over 600K jobs over the past few months or so, and the Labor Department said the unemployment rate jumped to over 16M jobless in the same period. This does not seem to add up, using conventional math. No wonder the government wants to take complete control of student loans. Until more funds become available, please advise all Americans that the White House finds it necessary to use cowboy math.

[hungry1968-17]

Without the stimulus, the unemployment rate would have been EVEN HIGHER.

What is so tricky about that?

[Dgunner]

Everyone sit down and go on strike. Kill the production destroy the export and destroy the importers ability to pay for imported products because suddenly Americans began buying american made amd produced products. This will take massive cooperatrion and something I see little of these days bravery and guts to carry through on a project that would actually involve action instead arm chair bi----ng. Hang your heads ! you should .

[spaceatoms]

We are three months away, hey why not 4 months away, its over, there comes a time when you just have to throw in the towel. I don't know why we listen to Warren Buffet. He is a greedy 80 year old man, I would rather put my money on a young kid in his 20's who has some new and fresh ideas rather continue on with reading stories about Theft Street and all the insider trading. We are right back to square A with high gas prices and high unemployment. The country was on the right track with the DOW moving back into the 3000 point range, now greed is back again. President Obama has shown his teeth and allowing this action, meeting none of his promises and continues to turn his head even when over 40 people have been shot or wounded this week due to the society.

[kevjustice]

This was caused by the neocons deregulation of the economy. Reganomics has been proven to be a total failure. Some Democrats may have been involved, but Republicans set the tone and led the charge for the deregulation that resulted in the collapse of the economy.

[hungry1968-17]

by hungry1968-17 November 7, 2009 8:22 AM EST
I read the post that you're crying about, and didn't think it was meaningless drivel at all.

You conservatives like to champion and rally AGAINST the poor, the freeloaders, the welfare mommas, and everyone else.

Yet corporate capitalists have turned their backs on America time and time and time again, harmed America to the point that our ENTIRE economy was in jeopardy TWICE, and yet you still hail unregulated capitalism and corporate greed as the best way to go.

All the while acting like the poor should die because they've never had a financial opportunity to get health care coverage.

Just remember this - if YOU have employer sponsored health care benefits, then YOUR health care coverage is already in jeopardy because of GREED. Don't forget it.

[hungry1968-17]

This post was directed at jimmy1955's post from earlier:

by jimmyc1955 November 7, 2009 8:14 AM EST
Meaningless drivel - nothing searing here but a vacuous statement with no point.

You want a searingtruth? - GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CONTROL THE ECONOMY!!

Or how about - GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS - BUSINESSES DO!!

Or How about - POETIC DRIVEL IS ONLY IMPORTANT TO ROMANTICS AND STONERS!

[apachekid]

Unemployment Rate Soars Past 10 Percent .....

Why yes! This is a perfect example Obama's & Congress's Elite out of touch concern about The People's Welfare. But in all fairness, why should they be concerned when they bailed out Wall Street, Big Banking, Freddie & Fannie, Automobile, Savings & Loan, and Obama approved the Largest Congressional pay off pay raises in History. Why Moveon, Acorn, & other of Obama's Fan Club are raking in contributions in record numbers. While We The People, Our Children & Grand Children get to pay off the Trillions in Debt They got Our Country into with more Schemes on the way.

Do they get it? Are they concerned about The People? Of course not! Just themselves and their Agenda. BUT if they expect me to go out and buy, spend, charge, & run up MY personal debt to rescue their economic blunders, even if I could I WOULD NOT. Just Boycott! Until The People get some respect Let The Obama Team - Moveon, Acorn, pro abortion, anti military, anti elderly, GW groups come forward and spend their own money. By Boycotting these Groups already we're making an impact and slowly they're starting to get the picture. Sad but true.

[garyl615]

Outlaw outsoucing....millions of jobs going overseas...you want millions of jobs...outlaw outsourcing!!!

[juiceblog]

H-1B visas too!

[BlandNancy]

Stop giving jobs to illegal immigrants and enforce the laws against them entering and staying in this country illegally! They are taking jobs Americans will do!

[MalloryDavis]

See how wonderful the government is!? They take all of the money we paid and GIVE IT BACK to those who are so damn greedy. Whatever the government is in control of BACKFIREs.

[hungry1968-17]

http://politicalirony.com/2009/08/10/an-oldie-but-a-goodie/

[searingtruth]

"We were to be rewarded according to our works, and most justly so.

A home, an abundance of food, an abundance of hope for our children, and a luxury of joy to be shared by all.

Not for only the few, as it always had been before.

And is again."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[mcapek]

"Obama voodoo economics". The house of cards will fall, sooner or later.

[searingtruth]

"Nothing for the poor.
Because they have been negligent and irresponsible.

Everything for the billionaires.
Because they have been negligent and irresponsible."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[jimmyc1955]

Meaningless drivel - nothing searing here but a vacuous statement with no point.

You want a searingtruth? - GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CONTROL THE ECONOMY!!

Or how about - GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS - BUSINESSES DO!!

Or How about - POETIC DRIVEL IS ONLY IMPORTANT TO ROMANTICS AND STONERS!

[askagain]

Folks, we need to accept some facts in life. The old jobs will never be back. Outsourcing is just one factor. Let me give you an example of the impact of technology on jobs. I am a magazine publisher. Up until about five years ago, our graphic artist would give us hard copy which we took to our printer. Our printer had two shifts with five or six people who would prepare hard copy for the camera and then make plates one by one for the press. Now we send our publication digitally to the printer through the internet. Our publication goes digitally right to a plate making machine. Only one employee is needed for this now. If you told me this would happen six years ago, I would have laughed thinking this is somebody's idea of a dream. This is happening right here in America. If people wish to have jobs, they need to prepare themselves constantly for a changing world. College and universities are talking about internet classrooms. Just think, once recorded, a lesson can be used over and over again. No need for physical classrooms or professors manning those classrooms. Only those with high end skills willing to constantly learn new skills are likely to have and keep jobs. Skilled labor appears safe for the moment. Plumbers and electricians will probably have jobs for the foreseeable future.

[Wolf1944]

I've created Internet classes myself, and I know that Internet learning is vastly inferior to classroom learning. If this goes on, we're looking at a future of very poorly educated people.

[vietnamwar]

tv news today said 27.5% or more because some are working part time.

[TheVarsityClub]

There is still another wave of bad debt that has yet to hit shore.

Brace yourself.

[stryker54]

got that right. commercial is the next with 500 billion due in the next 2 years. people that realize what is happening in this country right now will be ahead, the sheep will be going baa, baa, baaaaaaaaaa when they realize they got it up the kazoo.