JERUSALEM, Nov. 1, 2009
Palestinians: Clinton Hinders Peace Talks
They Say She Is Favoring Israel by Seeking Renewed Talks with No Concessions on Settlements
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(AP / CBS)
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Photo Essay Pursuing Peace In Israel, secretary of state Hillary Clinton vows U.S. will "vigorously" promote peace efforts.
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Clinton met with both Palestinian leaders and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday.
At a joint news conference with the Netanyahu last night, she praised the Israeli leader's offer to curb some settlement construction in the West Bank.
The Palestinians insist construction must stop there and in east Jerusalem - lands they want for a future state - before they'll return to the bargaining table.
Netanyahu has insisted Israel would not limit building in east Jerusalem.
After yesterday's meetings, Clinton called for an unconditional resumption of peace talks.
A Palestinian government spokesman says that amounts to condoning the expansion of settlements.
The Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat says: "If America cannot get Israel to implement a settlement freeze, what chance do Palestinians have of reaching agreement with Israel on permanent status issues?"
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- Netanyahu aid to Netanyahu:
"Hey boss, what do the Americans think about going past "lip-service" this time?"
Netanyahu to aid:
"I don't honestly know right now...I haven't made their minds up for them yet on that point." - Reply to this comment
- The Israelis, in effect, tell the U.S. "Deal us all the aces first, then you can deal to the Palestinians".......
Who would expect any Arab support whtsoever for a position so obviously weighted in favor of Israel?
Only a fool. - Reply to this comment
- Israel tells U.S. "OK, we'll play but only if you stack the deck in our favor".
U.S. says "OK, whatever you say".
Palestinians say "?!?!?!" - Reply to this comment
- by earth5661 November 2, 2009 8:09 AM EST
compared to your bloviating anything else is heaven.
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From the Neocon Field Manual-
"bloviate" - a term to be used whenever a logical argument is presented for which you have no reasonable rebuttal". - Reply to this comment
- Looks like the two neocons left for reinforcements....
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- Well juwboy, we've addressed your ignorance about the Roadmap to Peace and the Israeli position regarding settlements as well, do you require any further enlightenment or are you good for the moment?
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- 10 minutes sans response would indicate that he's had all the enlightenment he can stand for one session....
- by earth5661 November 2, 2009 8:08 AM EST
You obviously can't find your own address so what have you proven Achmed ?
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Who's Achmed? Are you one the wrong board, maybe?
Or are you one of those simpletons who, for lack of valid argument, resort to demonizing those who differ in opinion from you?
10 to 1 it's the latter.
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 7:21 AM EST
"The Palestinians have no say in the matter.
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What a shock this revelation of mindset is, eh?
It is a privilege to behold such wisdom, indeed. - Reply to this comment
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 5:44 AM EST
The 2003 Roadmap has never been anything more than a Saudi Arabian proposal
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You are woefully ignorant juwboy.
The implementation of this mere "proposal" as you call it, began on March 19, 2003 and ended on June 5, 2003.
Inform yourself somewhat and your appearances here might not be so embarrasing for you. - Reply to this comment
- The blatant favortism that US policy demonstrates in regards to Israel is as big of an impediment to the process as the actions of the Palestinians and the Israelis themselves.
This favortism encourages Israel to continue to push the envelope from their side, ignoring previous agreements and the like, while reducing the Palestinian authorities ability to sell peace to the Palestinians in general and augmenting support for more radical positions out of sheer frustration.
Individual Palestinians rightly ask "Why support a process so heavily weighted in Israel's favor?" - Reply to this comment
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- I assume, jewboy, that you think that your adolescent penchant for insult, as opposed to mature, rational, on-pointe responses, looks like anything but considering that you continue to demonstrate your inability to debate an issue on an adult level.
You can only argue.
Must be tough.....
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 7:23 AM EST
Arguing rationally with ignorant, uneducated people is intrinsically impossible.
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Arguing is what children do.
Adults possess the ability to debate.
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 7:23 AM EST
Arguing rationally with ignorant, uneducated people is intrinsically impossible.
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I can relate.
Like wasting time with ignorants who post thing such as:
by juwboy November 2, 2009 7:07 AM EST
"Netanyahu has repeated over and over again, including this weekend, that the settlements will be on the agenda at the next Middle East peace conference."
When the article CLEARLY states:
"Netanyahu has insisted Israel would not limit building in east Jerusalem."
Tell me about it.....
- I assume, jewboy, that you think that your adolescent penchant for insult, as opposed to mature, rational, on-pointe responses, looks like anything but considering that you continue to demonstrate your inability to debate an issue on an adult level.
- "Palestinians: Clinton Hinders Peace Talks"
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Doesn't look good on the CV of a SOS, does it?
It's bad enough to not promote the objective, but to actively hinder it?
Sheesh. - Reply to this comment
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- by juwboy November 2, 2009 7:07 AM EST
Netanyahu has repeated over and over again, including this weekend, that the settlements will be on the agenda at the next Middle East peace conference.
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You can't even read.
From the above article which you obviously didn't even bother to read before shooting off your yap:
"Netanyahu has insisted Israel would not limit building in east Jerusalem."
Do you understand the definition of the word "INSIST", jewboy?
Apparently, you haven't a clue.
What a surprise that is......
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 7:07 AM EST
- It is totally absurd to think that any entity, that is not perceived to be neutral on the matter, could effectively broker a solution.
"Hard" requirements for the Palestinians and "soft" requirements for Israel, while popular here in the U.S., will never lead to peace.
The U.S is asking both sides to open up a two-way street while Clinton hangs "One Way" signs up and down the length of it. - Reply to this comment
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- by juwboy November 2, 2009 6:42 AM EST
There is no such entity.
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My point.
The U.S. surrendered it's neutrality in 2000 and will not re-obtain it with less than even-handed treatment for both sides involved.
- To be more correct, I should have said that the U.S. surrendered any "claim" to neutrality in 2000.
Neutrality has never been actual - Israel has seen to that.
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 6:42 AM EST
- Evevr seen the commercial with the guy and the two little girls who he offers a pony?
They say yes and he gives the first girl a miniature plastic pony and then gives the second girl a real pony.
U.S. ME policy in microcosm. - Reply to this comment
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- by juwboy November 2, 2009 6:01 AM EST
Which, in your mind of course, has nothing at all to do with the blockade Israel maintains against Gaza.
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 6:09 AM EST
Your attention span isn't all that, juwboy.
The article is about the peace process, or lack thereof, not historical land claims of other parties.
If I were trying to defend Israel's intransigence, I too would want to talk about Islam, Egypt, the cost of onions in India - anything but their intransigence.
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 6:26 AM EST
Egypt regards Gazan Palestinians as their enemies, not their friends.
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Which has absolutely nothing at all to do with Israeli intransigence regarding settlement construction in violation of the 2003 accords which it signed.
- by juwboy November 2, 2009 6:01 AM EST
- Who can blame the Palestinians for not trusting the U.S. on ME policy?
Palestinians are urged by the U.S. to comply with the process while Israel gets a wink and a nod.
Ridiculous. And disgusting, as well. - Reply to this comment
- Israel punks the U.S., again.
The 2003 Roadmap calls for a freeze on settlement building. Israel agreed.
The administration, until recently, insisted that the accord be followed (no settlement construction)...
Netanyahu stands, raises his fore-finger, and the U.S. says "nevermind".
Disgusting. - Reply to this comment
- I don't understand...if Barry O' would just go over there and sit down with these guys over a beer, I'm sure he could sweet-talk them into a lasting peace!
He had Putin at "hello." - Reply to this comment
- Hillary I am sure you remember what happened when you husband Bill met with ARAFAT at Camp David. Things were looking good until the war monger Ariel Sharon put on his NAZI uniform and caused a massive riot at one of the silly religious prayer sites in this land that some crazy God promised to the Jews. Of course the Christians go along with this silly story even though the critical question has never been answered. The proof is only written in books thousands of years old, written by old men who did strange things with sheep. Unless and until the Christians and the Jews and the Muslims can prove there is a GOD, all the death and destruction and money is a pure waste. Why don't you suggest moving both the Palestinians and the Israelis somewhere else, make this land into a giant WAL-MART and wait until some GOD shows up. If one does and he wants the Jews to take over WAL-MART then we will all have to go along.
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