November 5, 2009 8:30 AM

Given TV Time, U.K. Pol Denies He's a Nazi

(CBS/AP)  The leader of Britain's far-right party outlined his vision in a controversial television debut that critics fear could help his whites-only party ease into the political mainstream.

British National Party leader Nick Griffin feuded with fellow panelists and was excoriated by hostile audience members in a tense appearance on the BBC's "Question Time" program Thursday night.

"It was hard-going," he told The Associated Press in telephone interview after the show, describing the program as "a bit like a boxing match. I took some punches but I was able to land some punches too." Still, he complained that the audience had been stacked with minorities.

"They put us on in London where the indigenous population is in the minority so we don't have much sympathy or support," he said.

Question Time gathers Britain's leading politicians, journalists and other public figures in a panel to take questions from a studio audience. The three-decade-old program has become something of a national institution, and many have condemned Griffin's first-ever invitation to the show as awarding his far-right group an undeserved aura of political respectability.

The BBC said that, as a publicly funded broadcaster, it must cover all political parties that have a national presence. The BNP has no seats in the Britain's Parliament, but earlier this year the party won two seats in the European legislature.

The program showed Griffin defending himself against accusations that he sympathized with the ideals of Adolf Hitler's Nazi Party - but also showed him ducking the question of whether he ever denied the Holocaust.

"I do not have a conviction for Holocaust denial," he said, smiling faintly as the studio audience snickered. He later said he had changed his mind about the "figures" of the Holocaust, but then refused to explain what his previous position was.

Griffin was then asked by an Asian member of the audience whether he still believed Islam was a "vicious" and "evil" religion - a quote he has made in past interviews. He reaffirmed that belief, alleging that the Quran encourages persecution of women and violence against non-Muslims.

Fellow panelist Chris Huhne, a lawmaker with Britain's Liberal Democrats party, spoke for many of the show's guests when he predicted that Griffin's credibility "is going to be seriously damaged by his performance."

"This is a person who comes from a fascist background, anyone who watches the program will see exactly what he stands for," he told the BBC after the show.

Excerpts from "Question Time" - BBC

But Griffin's appearance on the taxpayer-funded program has divided the country.

(AP Photo/PA)
Outside the BBC Television Center, Griffin's appearance was met with rowdy and sometimes violent protests. Hundreds of anti-fascist demonstrators rallied outside the center, and at one point about 25 people breached a police cordon and ran into the center's lobby.

"Shame on the BBC!" one female protester yelled as she was being dragged out. Scotland Yard said three officers were injured in the protests, and six people were arrested.

One government minister also said the BBC "should be ashamed of single-handedly doing a racist, fascist party the biggest favor in its grubby history."

"Our black, Muslim and Jewish citizens will sleep much less easily now the BBC has legitimized the BNP," Welsh Secretary Peter Hain said after the show's taping.

James Shields of Warwick University compared Griffin's Question Time invitation to a similar television appearance by French far-right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen in 1984, a groundbreaking performance which Shields said had helped soften Le Pen's image in the eyes of many French voters.

Shields said the Cambridge University-educated Griffin would, like Le Pen, see his TV appearance "as a breakthrough into mainstream media."

Griffin's performance was dissected in Britain's media, where most of the national papers carried his picture on their front pages Friday.

Griffin's defense of the U.K. as a "fundamentally British and Christian country" drew scattered applause, but he was jeered when he described homosexual behavior as "really creepy" and ridiculed for a reference to "almost a totally nonviolent" Klu Klux Klan. He was occasionally shouted down by members of the audience, one of whom invited him to go to the South Pole.

"It's a colorless landscape. It would suit you fine," the man said, as the audience laughed and cheered.

The BBC made no apologies for its show, saying Griffin had been subjected to tough questions.

"We remain firmly of the view that it was appropriate to invite Nick Griffin," BBC deputy director general Mark Byford said after the taping.

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by dragon8me October 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT
All the people who call Obama a fascist need to read this. Fascism is the far right not the left. Fascism is corporatism. "Privitization" of government function is Fascism because it puts corporations in control of the government. Socialism is the oposite. It puts government in control of corporations. When the corporations control the government greed is the bottom line and the people have no say in what the corporation does. When the government runs the corporation the people have a say by their votes.
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by casionova October 23, 2009 9:03 AM EDT
The only thing that bothered me about this idiot having his say on tv is the fact that so many people wanted to stop him
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by casionova October 23, 2009 9:39 AM EDT
"Not our concern" making pretty huge assumptions there for someone who knows nothing about me arent you?

Not your concern maybe, but it is mine.
by gw185 October 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT
"Not your concern maybe, but it is mine".
I thought you were from the Republic if i'm not mistaken,therefore Ms_enza would be correct.
by imprisoncheney October 23, 2009 7:27 AM EDT
What is it going to take, for the world to realize what a threat fascist propagandists like Griffin -- and his US counterparts Rash Limpballz, Glenda Beck, Sean Insannity & the Fauxnewz crew, Michele Bachmann and Michelle Malkin, et. al. ad nauseum -- pose? another holocaust???

Rightwing extremists have only one tune -- hatred -- and they play it to any and all who hear their dog whistles . . . just like Hitler (their "hero") did. And look what happened when everyone blew him off as just being some kind of nutjob.

The sad/scary part of it all is, they really believe they're "normal" and everyone else is crazy b/c they're not as hateful as they are. The reichwing is a bunch of psychotic sociopaths and they demand to be treated as sane individuals (paging Fauxnewz and the GOP!).
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by cgirltruck October 23, 2009 9:05 AM EDT
You know, name calling really is childish and lends no credibility to your view. How sad. You made some very valid points but completely blow it by acting like a 5th grader, which are probably better behaved than you.
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