Your Kitchen: A Breeding Ground for Germs?

Early Show Consumer Correspondent Susan Koeppen Tests Kitchen Surfaces, Offers Tips for Keeping Bacteria at Bay

(CBS)  In "The Early Show" series, "Germ Warfare," consumer correspondent Susan Koeppen took on one of the most utilized rooms in the home - the kitchen - to see what kind of bacteria might be lurking.

Adrienne Skinner, of Larchmont, N.Y., opened her kitchen to Koeppen, who, armed with sterile laboratory swabs, tested surfaces all over her busy kitchen.

Koeppen tested for common forms of bacteria - not only on the refrigerator shelves, drawer and handles, but also on the microwave buttons and the counter. Koeppen also took Skinner's kitchen sponge for testing.

Koeppen's consumer team also fanned out across the country collecting samples from other kitchens. Then all of the samples were sent off to a lab for testing.

What did they find? What was the absolute worst?

The sponges.

Ron Schnitzer, a microbiologist at Sani-Pure Labs, said, "Sponges really should not be used in the kitchen, because all they do is absorb the dirt and spread the dirt."

Skinner's sponge had 490 million total bacteria with a count of two million coliform bacteria. Coliform bacteria, Koeppen explained, is the bad bacteria scientists count to determine the level of contamination.

Schnitzer said, "When you get bacteria counts from a sponge in excess of a million bacteria and coliform bacteria in excess of a million bacteria, that's a serious source of contamination."

A sponge Koeppen tested from a kitchen in New York was even worse, with 490 million total bacteria with 10 million coliform. According to Schnitzer, this is as much bacteria as you would find in a decomposing garbage bag, and more bacteria than you would find on the average toilet seat.

Schnitzer said, "Someone could potentially get ill the next time they prepare food."

As for Skinner's microwave, coffee pot, refrigerator handle, and the counter, they all came back clean. However, the inside of a refrigerator drawer had a 250,000 total bacteria count. This was not good, Koeppen said, but not as bad as one of "The Early Show"'s own team members' refrigerator shelf. It had a total count of 21 million bacteria, with high coliform and E. coli count.

Microbiologists say these numbers can make you sick.

"Now imagine if in your household, you either have a very young child or you have an elderly individual or you actually have someone that's recovering from an illness these bacteria counts would be significant,"
Schnitzer said. But do you want to take the risk?"

As for Skinner, she said she'll be making some changes in her house.

"Let's just say sponges are not going to be part of the kitchen accoutrements in the future." she said. "That's definitely a change I'm going to make."

Koeppen added that it's a good idea to clean your fridge on a regular basis. Placement of your food is also important, she said. One recommendation, Koeppen said, is to put meats on the bottom shelf, so they don't drip down and get germs on the rest of your food.

I have to wonder with all of the anti-bactieral soap out there. What kind of dish soap was used in the test. Also if an antibacterial was used what is the point of having antibacterial soaps?

[jackhimes]

Question, yesterday (10/21) I thought you mentioned how to sterilize sponges with clorox and water. What ratio?

[lizsmith99]

I've heard that you can microwave your sponges for 30 seconds to kill bacteria. Is this true? I don't use them on any surfaces, just for doing dishes, and they do get quite nasty.

[petriboop]

I watched your show this morning anxiously awaiting on what are the best products to use instead of sponges. At work, I purchased a soft bristle brush however at home, I have a sponge with the dish detergent attachment. What do you suggest as the best dish washing product to use? I am not a fan of dish washers, but it is not out of the question if it means prevention of germs. Please advise. Thank you.

[mswolfestock]

SUGGESTION: Use dish rags instead of a sponge. I have never used a sponge in my kitchen, probably because my mother never used one. I have a couple dozen cotton "bar rags" that I use for wiping up and kitchen cleaning. I use one in the evening and another in the morning, then into the wash they go. If I'm in the kitchen all day cooking and baking, I change them frequently, especially if I am handling raw meat or eggs.

I don't think anybody should panic or freak out or be obsessed with germs - just use common sense.

ALSO: Make sure you dry off your counter tops and other surfaces once you have wiped or cleaned them. Germs need moisture and if you remove all sources of moisture they'll die.

[cfblakeman]

Why the modern day obsession with germs? We've had these around for millions of years and they're necessary for life, and we want to rid our lives of them?

Where is the responsible journalism in this report? See your own CBS Healthwatch report from nine months ago showing that ridding your life of germs is the worst thing you can do for your kids. http://bit.ly/2nTbiS

Are you just selling ads today or is their a responsibility to remind people that a germ free environment is creating an epidemic of allergies and auto-immune deficiencies in children?