Russia Still Resisting Iran Sanctions

Foreign Minster says After Meeting Clinton that Even Threat of Further Sanctions Would be Counterproductive

(AP)  Updated at 8:11 a.m. Eastern.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Tuesday that the threat of sanctions against Iran would be counterproductive, resisting U.S. efforts to win agreement for measures if Iran fails to prove its nuclear program is peaceful.

Lavrov spoke following talks with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is trying to gauge Moscow's willingness to join the U.S. in imposing sanctions if Iran fails to come clean on its nuclear activities.

Lavrov said Russia's position is that under current conditions even the threat of sanctions against Iran would be counterproductive.

Clinton said the U.S. agreed it was important to pursue diplomacy with Iran.

"At the same time ... we have always looked at the potential of sanctions in the event we are not successful" in persuading Iran to comply, she said at a joint news conference.

Iran insists it has the right to a full domestic nuclear enrichment program and maintains it is only for peaceful purposes, such as energy production.

Clinton's visit to Moscow is her first since becoming America's top diplomat and since President Obama - who visited Russia in July - vowed to "reset" U.S.-Russia relations. She was to meet with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev later Tuesday.

Beyond Iran, Lavrov said the U.S. and Russia have made "considerable" progress toward reaching agreement on a new strategic arms treaty.

The 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires in December and negotiators have been racing to reach agreement on a successor.

The two diplomats also discussed a recent Obama administration decision to scale back a Bush-era proposal for an anti-missile shield in Europe.

Also on the agenda are Afghanistan, nuclear-armed North Korea , NATO expansion, the situation in Georgia after its conflict with Russia last year, human rights and arms control.

[hungry1968-16]

by cy4466 October 13, 2009 11:12 AM EDT

While Bush and Obama were robbing the treasury, Iran built the bomb.

While Obama continued to sack the treasury, Iran built a long range missile to fit their nuclear war heads.






Even if Iran HAD the bomb, they wouldn't try to use it against us, they have no reason to.

They also KNOW that they would be obliterated off the map, if they tried it.

By the way, we have missile defense systems all around our country on OUR borders.

We don't need weapons in Europe, to keep us safe, especially from a fictional adversary.

[cy4466]

by hungry1968-16 October 13, 2009 10:54 AM EDT


Iran's longest range missile is 1,250 miles, while America's closest point to Iran is 7,300 miles.

It wouldn't even come close.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/missile-ranges.htm


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While Bush and Obama were robbing the treasury, Iran built the bomb.

While Obama continued to sack the treasury, Iran built a long range missile to fit their nuclear war heads.

[cy4466]

by hungry1968-16 October 13, 2009 10:54 AM EDT


Iran's longest range missile is 1,250 miles, while America's closest point to Iran is 7,300 miles.

It wouldn't even come close.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/missile-ranges.htm


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While Bush and Obama were robbing the treasury, Iran built the bomb.

While Obama continued to sack the treasury, Iran built a long range missile to fit their nuclear war heads.

[hungry1968-16]

by endurorob_5 October 13, 2009 10:37 AM EDT
Many experts disagree with that assesment. And amazingly the SECDEF thought the shield was a good idea until his new bass said it wasn't.






Really?

Iran's longest range missile is 1,250 miles, while America's closest point to Iran is 7,300 miles.

It wouldn't even come close.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/missile-ranges.htm




This was NOTHING but a giveaway of MORE taxpayer money to Haliburton, KBR, Northrupp-Grumann, etc, etc, etc.

Killing it was a good thing, and will save us taxpayers TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars in waste.

It had nothing to do with Russia.

[Ms_enza]

It's even better than that...

If Iran had lanuched a missile from the NW corner of the country... IT COULD NOT CROSS THE BLACK SEA.

A defensive missile in Poland would have to be launched BEFORE the missile in Iran to reach it.

[kevjustice]

The U.S. CIA helped install the evil shah in the 50's. The Iranian people overthrew him. The U.S. helped create the current regime in Iran. The U.S. has only themselves to blame for the current situation.

[pickaguitar1]

I'm with Russia on this one

[hungry1968-16]

by endurorob_5 October 13, 2009 10:19 AM EDT
A lot of good it did scrapping the european missile shield. Still no cooperation fronm Russia after spitting in the face of our freinds. And on top of it the Obama administration cancelled funding of a human rights group that tracks offenses in Iran. They wuold not say why but I think that is obvious. What will that get them from Iran? Nothing.







The European missile shield was useless, it did nothing for our security, and was nothing but a boondoggle waste of money, designed to enrich the military industrial complex.

This was a gift from Bush to his politically connected cronies, and all that it did was infuriate Russia.

Killing it was a good thing, and it wasn't done to make Russia happy, though that was a side benefit.

[endurorob_5]

Many experts disagree with that assesment. And amazingly the SECDEF thought the shield was a good idea until his new bass said it wasn't.

[endurorob_5]

A lot of good it did scrapping the european missile shield. Still no cooperation fronm Russia after spitting in the face of our freinds. And on top of it the Obama administration cancelled funding of a human rights group that tracks offenses in Iran. They wuold not say why but I think that is obvious. What will that get them from Iran? Nothing.

[zamorin44]

The White House spin doctors will of course find another contrived opportunity to reaffirm Russia's willingness for the sanctions.

[G-I_Jesus]

Coincidences

Secretary of State Hillary: Aren't we going to wait for President Medvedev?

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin: Why?

Hillary: Because he is the President of Russia.

Vladimir: So?

Hillary: I thought that maybe he should be here to talk strategy.

Vladimir: Madam Secretary, the soup is getting cold. If you want to wait for Dmitry be my guest but I, Madam like to eat my soup hot.

President Medvedev: Hi everybody, sorry I am late. Can somebody warm up my soup, I hate it when my soup gets cold!

Vladimir: What a coincidence Dmitry, my soup is also cold. Do you know why?

Hillary: Is it possible to talk about Iran and the threat it poses to the world?

Dmitry: No Vladimir I don't know why. Tell me why?

Hillary: Please gentlemen let us not fight over cold soup when Iran is...

Vladimir: You are always late for diner Dmitry. For once could you be at the diner table in time?

Hillary: And North Korea should be dealt with in the similar way we deal with Iran...

Dmitry: Well, I am sorry Vladimir but I had some urgent things to do. I am the President you know!

Hillary: Please excuse me, I have to go freshen up.

Vladimir: The Prime Minister has urgent things do to also but it does not stop me from being at the diner table at six o'clock sharp!

Hillary: Mr. President, Vladimir and Dmitry are bickering about the state of the soup.

President Obama: Hillary, did you call collect again. You know that we are on a tight budget. What would happen if I called you collect all the time. This will come out of your pay check Madam Secretary. And don't forget to bring back the soap and shampoo and a towel if you can from your trip.
I've got to go Hillary, my soup is getting cold...

[hungry1968-16]

That's a whole lot of typing, without saying anything significant.

Why bother posting?

[hungry1968-16]

by TrishaL59 October 13, 2009 8:21 AM EDT
This is freaking funny! LOL!







Russia shhiitts in America's face, and you think it's funny?

I'll bet you hope America fails too, don't you?

[hungry1968-16]

"Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Tuesday that the threat of sanctions against Iran would be counterproductive, resisting U.S. efforts to win agreement for measures if Iran fails to prove its nuclear program is peaceful."







This is the single biggest problem with the UN. If ONE super power nation doesn't agree with everyone else, they can simply subvert the rest of the member nations.

And what is our recourse? Put sanctions on Russia too?

Good luck with that.

[cy4466]

When Obambi visited Russia recently..

Medvedev: Remove the Missile Shield from Poland, and scrap the whole program for long range shield, entirely.

Obambi: Okay, but help us prevent Iran from getting the bomb.

Medvedev: No, but we'll reduce the size of our stock pile of nukes if you do the same.

Obambi: Okay

[uncomfortable silence fills the room for a couple of minutes]

Obambi: So, would you like an I-Pod?

Medvedev: No

Obambi: Okay

[More uncomfortable silence fills the room]

Obambi: Well, I must be going

[door shuts as Obambi see's himself out, and in the room Obambi just left, Putin enters from a hidden door]

Medvedev & Putin: Ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

[ubrew12]

What Clinton is really saying to the Russians is: "you matter to us. you matter in discussing nuclear upstarts like Iran and N Korea because you are important, and you are important because you have thousands of nukes pointed at us." In truth, she may not care for the Russians any more than Bush did, but Bush in his actions SAID SO (he encircled them with missile defense batteries), and the Russians responded a year ago by invading Georgia and threatening to invade Ukraine and Poland, by putting their nukes on high alert, and by sending Destroyers to Cuba. Obama's willingness to de-escalate our approach to Russia is why he just won the Nobel Peace Prize. Even if most American's are clueless about the real threats to our security, the Nobel Committee still understands that Al-Qaida is childs play compared to Russia and China, and Bush's willingness to treat them like bit-players on the international stage while surrounding them with first-strike missile batteries came closer to ending the world in nuclear escalation than anyone since Kruschev. Of course, Obama's choice for the Peace Prize was absurd. The Nobel Committee is simply saying that the ENTIRE SITUATION, in which billions of lives hang on whether the POTUS is sane or not, is absurd, especially if you're Norwegian.

[brian1920]

Putin is to aggressive and experienced for Obama to deal with. Putin wants Israel to attack Iran and drive the price of oil to $400. Russia has plenty of it and it will make them wealthy and destroy the US economy further. Putin will neer agree o any sanctions in the end and will force the conflict because then he wins. Obama is being set up and he doesn't even know it. This is why he is so dangerous as President.

[jwesel1]

Nice try playing with words. "Regime" when you don't like them and "government" if you do. CBS people know a thing or two about connotation.

[pensacola8-2009]

The Russian's relationship with Iran has never wavered from their technology sharing position, but even the Iranians have had their own differences with Russia over political affiliations.

If Secretary Clinton secures the Russian's agreement to take a position against Iran, it will be one of the most serious reversals of Russian foreign policy.

[vietnamwar]

Clinton, in Russia, Seeks Pressure on Iran

The Title should be Clinton, in Russia, Seeks stop selling nuke to Iran

[Lawyers-Guns-n-Money-01]

by vietnamwar October 12, 2009 8:35 PM EDT
Clinton, in Russia, Seeks Pressure on Iran

The Title should be Clinton, in Russia, Seeks stop selling nuke to Iran
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Wrong! The headline should read: 'Clinton, in Russia, Sees Sarah Palin Spying on Russian Mooses.'