October 9, 2009 5:32 PM

Taliban Suicide Attack Kills 17 in Kabul

(CBS/AP)  Updated 6:40 p.m. ET

A suicide car bomber detonated his vehicle outside the Indian Embassy in the bustling center of the Afghan capital Thursday, killing 17 people in the second major attack in the city in less than a month. The Afghan Foreign Ministry hinted at Pakistani involvement - a charge Pakistan denied.

The blast occurred a day after the war entered its ninth year and as President Barack Obama was deliberating a request by the top commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal for up to 40,000 more troops. Opponents of a troop increase want to shift focus to missile strikes and special operations against al Qaeda-linked groups in Pakistan.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack - the second against the Indian Embassy in the past two years - and specified that the Indians were the target.

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CBS News correspondent Mandy Clark, who was close enough to feel the explosion, said she was entering the Ministry of Interior when the attack occurred.

"I saw a blinding white flash, there was a deafening boom, and a shock wave so powerful it nearly knocked me off my feet and then all I could hear was the breaking of glass because the force of the explosion was so strong," Clark said.

Clark said after she was aided by police officers and took shelter, she saw "complete chaos."

"There was really naked fear," Clark said. "There was wailing that filled the streets of the injured. There were bystanders pulling the dead and injured out of vehicles. And the building was completely ripped apart. It was very surreal."

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In New Delhi, India's Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao said the driver of the sport utility vehicle "came up to the outer perimeter wall of the embassy in a car loaded with explosives." Three Indian paramilitary guards were wounded by shrapnel, Rao said.

Rao did not say who the Indians believed was responsible for the attack, which occurred about 8:30 a.m. along a commercial street that is also home to the Interior Ministry.

However, the Afghan Foreign Ministry said the Thursday attack "was planned and implemented from outside of Afghan borders" by the same groups responsible for the July 2008 suicide bombing at the Indian Embassy that killed more than 60 people.

The ministry statement made no mention of Pakistan. However, the Afghan government blamed Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence for the 2008 bombing at the Indian Embassy as well as involvement in a string of attacks in the country.

U.S. officials suspected the 2008 embassy bombing and other high profile attacks were carried out by followers of Jalaluddin Haqqani, a longtime Afghan militant leader whose forces are battling U.S. forces in eastern Afghanistan from sanctuaries in the border area of Pakistan. At U.S. urging, the Pakistani military says it's planning an offensive against extremists in the border area.

In Islamabad, Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Abdul Basit, condemned Thursday's bombing.

"Whenever terrorist activity occurs it should strengthen our resolve to eradicate and eliminate this menace," he said. Basit called allegations of a Pakistani role in the Kabul bombing "preposterous."

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The Taliban did not say why it targeted the Indian Embassy. India and Pakistan, archrivals since the 1947 partition of the Indian subcontinent, are competing for influence in Afghanistan among rival ethnic groups. India maintains close ties with the Tajik community, and Pakistan with the Pashtuns, who form the majority of the Taliban.

Thursday's blast was the deadliest attack in Kabul since Sept. 17, when a suicide bomber killed 16 people, including six Italian soldiers and 10 Afghan civilians, on a road in the center of the capital.

The Interior Ministry said 15 civilians and two Afghan police officers were killed in Thursday's blast. At least 76 people were wounded, the ministry said. President Hamid Karzai, the U.S. Embassy and the United Nations mission all condemned the attack.

After months of relative calm, the Afghan capital has been shaken recently by an increasing number of suicide attacks and roadside bombings that began in the run-up to the country's disputed Aug. 20 election. The attacks usually target international military forces or government installations, but Afghan businesses and civilians are also often killed or injured.

Police sealed off the area after the blast.

The Indian news channel CNN-IBN cited Jayant Prasad, India's ambassador in Kabul, as saying the blast caused "extensive damage to the chancery." He said the bomb was so powerful that it blew off some of the embassy's doors and windows.

The explosion also damaged a line of shops between the embassy and the Interior Ministry, shattering glass and rattling buildings more than a mile (kilometer) away. A huge brown plume of smoke was visible in the air as ambulances raced to the scene and carried away the wounded.

A European police officer assigned as an adviser to the Interior Ministry and an Afghan interpreter were slightly wounded by flying glass, training spokesman Andrea Angeli said.

A 21-year-old Afghan man, who gave his name only as Najibullah, said he had just opened his shop when the explosion went off, knocking him unconscious. When he awoke, he said, he couldn't see anything because of dust and debris.

"Dust was everywhere. People were shouting," Najibullah said. "You couldn't see their faces because there was so much dust."

His white clothes were covered in blood after helping load four injured onto ambulances.

AP Television News footage showed local residents and soldiers pulling a charred, severed leg out of a destroyed vehicle. Others carried an apparently lifeless body on a stretcher to an ambulance.

On another stretcher, a man lay face down, one arm hanging downward, his left leg covered in blood.

Two United Nations vehicles were near the blast and one was badly damaged, spokesman Dan McNorton confirmed. Both vehicles had only a driver inside, and neither was wounded. The U.N. typically uses armored vehicles in Kabul that are designed to withstand such attacks.

One injured man said the force of the explosion threw him into the air. Mohammad Arif said he was leaving the embassy when the blast tossed him against a concrete barrier. The left side of his head was bleeding as he spoke.

Separately Thursday, French Defense Minister Herve Morin announced the death of a French marine killed in an IED attack on Sept. 4.


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by jefleshman October 10, 2009 7:34 AM EDT
As we continue the complexity of a counter-insurgency COIN war in Afghanistan. It is very interesting how more and more the Terrorist try to be like ISAF. This July 2009 Mullah Omar recently published his guidance for the Taliban version of their Code of Conduct. SOURCE: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/07/20097278348124813.html#

Key points of discussion about the Order Mullah Omar who is in Pakistan given in his Code of Conduct areas follows. Do we as the world hold Mullah Omar accountable? or Should we continue to ignore Terrorism?

On civilian casualties:

"Governors, district chiefs and line commanders and every member of the Mujahideen must do their best to avoid civilian deaths, civilian injuries and damage to civilian property. Great care must be taken."

On suicide attacks:

"Suicide attacks should only be used on high and important targets. A brave son of Islam should not be used for lower and useless targets. The utmost effort should be made to avoid civilian casualties."
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My point is Terrorism is real! Let us not forget this one minute. Case in point the attack in Kabul this blog is attached to. I wonder what mitigation technique was employed by the Terrorist for this failed suicide attack.

What would you think and do if this was not in Kabul but in your cities Department of Education because they provide an education to girls? I wonder if Omar would approve an attack like that? What is his measure used to consider a target of HIGH or IMPORTANT targets? Because it looks like to me everything is game.

We are in the right place and bringing the fight to the Terrorist and not the other way around. Sitting back and doing nothing only lets them get stronger. As we ignored Terrorism because it was everyone elses issue. Mean while we let the Terrorist bring us the fight and attack us on 9-11-01. I wonder if the Pakistani government will continue to put pressure on the Terrorist using Pakistan as safe haven. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/09/2009926101231313412.html
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by ClarkeGrissom October 9, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
Whoops, CBS put the wrong headline on this one, were supposed to be tolerant of our Taliban friends now. Invite them to the table and deal. That is if they can promise to stop murdering teachers who dare to teach girls to read and write and those that don't follow their version of Islam. This should have probably read something like "Al Quaeda Suicide Attack Kills 17 in Kabul"...its they who are the enemy now? Hmm, even that might be a little defamatory towards our misunderstood global muslim brothers, how about "Student Finds Embassy Visit a Blast"?
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by jefleshman October 9, 2009 12:42 PM EDT
Fin

I remember I clearly stated last I checked we were guests of GIRoA. So Fin after the US invaded and removed the Taliban from power and the new GIRoA took place. We became guests as ISAF! Holy cow.

Every Tom Dick and Harry knows we invaded Afghanistan after the attack on the Trade Center Towers.

What is your point please?
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by finkfust October 9, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
.... that your supposed 'invitation' was a meaningless piece of PR from a puppet government, because you had already invaded illegally and occupied the country with massive military force. Do you HONESTLY think it was a genuine invitation? Please answer.......

So will you now answer my question - "I therefore presume that you condemn the execution of criminal suspects using bombs or missiles? Do you agree?"
by jefleshman October 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
Fin

I see you are mixing criminal with armed combatant and terrorist and non combatant in a War that is current in Afghanistan. Please reference this SOURCE there are plenty more out there on the subject: http://www.futureofmuslimworld.com/docLib/20061226_NoncombatantsFinal.pdf

Your argument doesn't make sense.
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by finkfust October 9, 2009 4:42 PM EDT
No, it is you is very mixed up! If not, define the difference between "criminal", "armed combatant" and "terrorist" for me, and tell me why some deserve a fair trial, others can be executed by America at will, and others can be imprisoned and tortured for an indefinite period without charge or evidence.

I say there is only one category - criminals, and they should all have a fair trial. Previously you agreed with that, but apparently you have changed your mind, presumably because you since realised that it would mean America has committed many thousands of international crimes.
by jefleshman October 9, 2009 12:18 PM EDT
Ok. I will try a cut and paste from an Article in MARCH 2002 when the US was not part of ISAF. Usually it replaces all quotes and such with question marks however I have the source and you can read it for yourself!

Mr. Karzai made his comments on the first day of national conference of local military leaders on building an Afghan national army. The issue is crucial, as providing security is seen as paramount to Afghanistan's rebuilding after 23 years of war and civil strife

"America has a role to fight against terrorism. And that is that is the role it is playing well. We are satisfied with that. ISAF is a different question. If the United States likes to come and become part of ISAF, we have no problem with that. But we are not going to force it to do something it does not want to do," he said.
SOURCE: http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2002-03/a-2002-03-06-24-Karzai.cfm?moddate=2002-03-06

Fin we have been guests for a long time! My orders clearly articulated and I quote:

Remember you are guest of Afghanistan?

Case Closed. We are guests of the Afghanistan government. Fin. There is no magical date in black and white you have to reference the Security Council NATO resolutions referenced in the time line provided. You as an educated person should be able to ascertain this. I did not believe I would have to provide you a black and white date. But if you need one... try the date Pres. Karzai was elected the 1st time.
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by finkfust October 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT
The question was "Exactly when did 'GIRoA' invite American armed forces into Afghanistan as their guests?" - March 2002 was AFTER American armed forces invaded the country! How can you be invited when you're already there?

..... and what your orders tell you is irrelevant, unless you want to publish them in full here so they can be questioned properly.

What about my question - "I therefore presume that you condemn the execution of criminal suspects using bombs or missiles? Do you agree?"
by jefleshman October 9, 2009 10:52 AM EDT
Fin

I do not under any circumstances believe in execution. I think that is VERY clear.

This will help you understand the complexity of what you are asking when try to narrow it down to a certain day. Please refer to the Afghanistan portion of the Professors paper. http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/mat022808.htm

ALL

Apologize up front since we shifted off course from the article. Unless CBS will allow us to continue the discussion and the people reading would like to hear?

But this article that alludes to US Forces are beginning negotiations with the Taliban has me buzzing with possibilities if this can happen. Peace and not war is a wonderful thing. SOURCE: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/10/08/talking_to_the_taliban?page=0,0

Fin. I think you would be able to provide a unique perspective on the article above with all your overseas experience.

I would like to hear what others have to say about it.
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by finkfust October 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT
Jerry

I therefore presume that you condemn the execution of criminal suspects using bombs or missiles? Do you agree?

..... and my comment about negotiation with the Taliban is - Why didn't America do so years ago and perhaps save billions of dollars and many thousands of lives?

Also, if there is no date when you were invited as 'guests' into Afghanistan, why the hell did you waste my time with those other references? Of course the truth is that YOU NEVER WERE!!!!!!!
by AOCGUY October 9, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
As I have posted a number of times, the US DID attempt to negotiate with the Taliban over the extradition of Bin Laden. Despite Bin Laden's own admission to responsibility for the 911 attacks the Taliban refused to turn him over and continued to provide aid and comfort to an international criminal. Since the US government has a responsibility to protect its citizens, at that pooint they had no other option other than to enter into Afghanistan to attempt the capture of Bin Laden. Had the Taliban complied with our request 8 years ago we wold have never entered Afghanistan and most likely the Taliban would still be in power.
by fuzzyi October 9, 2009 3:40 AM EDT
http://www.alemarah.info/english/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=260%3Amessage-of-felicitation-of-the-esteemed-amir-ul-momineen-leader-of-the-believers-mullah-mohammad-omar-mujahid-may-allah-preserve-him-on-the-occasion-of-eid-ul-fitre&catid=5%3Astatement-&Itemid=4
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by cy4466 October 8, 2009 5:52 PM EDT
This one really fell apart under Obambi
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by jefleshman October 8, 2009 4:56 PM EDT
My personal opinion. Yes Fin I do agree with you. They have the right to due process but by who and how? What is considered and able to be presented as evidence? Which is another challenge in its self.

Trial by NATO? AFGHAN? Whichever country they are from? Non NATO nation? Military Tribunal? These are the tuff questions and answers that will not please everyone whenever they are made. I just do not have a solution for these questions.

Plus what is the ultimate penalty for their crimes if found guilty? Death? That brings up another tough and touchy subject that people are very passionate about. If found guilty but no death penalty then where do they go for their prison sentence? If found not guilty where do they go? Some struggles just for Guantanamo releases noted recently just to find a place to go to. SOURCE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/27/AR2009092703076.html?hpid=topnews

So there are a lot more questions than answers on this subject and answers I do not have.

In case you did not know.

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by finkfust October 8, 2009 6:28 PM EDT
Come on Jerry, either you're remarkably stupid or you're trying to deceive. International law in this respect is absolutely clear and America is breaking it. Jurisdiction depends on where the alleged crime took place....... but of course you have to allege a crime first don't you? Just locking people up without charge doesn't conform to ANY law, does it?

I am now waiting for you to clearly call for all prisoners currently being held illegally by America to be released immediately. Will you do that NOW................ or are you going to admit to being a hypocrite?
by finkfust October 9, 2009 3:46 AM EDT
Well Jerry, which is it?
by wheresmycountry October 8, 2009 4:09 PM EDT
Silly Obama. Why did he get us into Afghanistan in the first place?
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by nextgenman09 October 8, 2009 8:53 PM EDT
Silly troll. We're way past "ignernt" shock statements like yours.....
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