October 14, 2009 8:35 AM

Senate Health Bill to Cost $829 Billion

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(CBS/ AP)  Health care legislation drafted by a key Senate committee would expand coverage to 94 percent of the eligible population at a 10-year cost of $829 billion, congressional budget experts said Wednesday in a preliminary estimate.

The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond.

The report paves the way for the Senate Finance Committee to vote as early as Friday on the legislation, which is largely in line with President Barack Obama's call for the most sweeping overhaul of the nation's health care system in a half-century.

Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the committee chairman and principal architect of the measure, hailed the budget report.

"This legislation, I believe, is a smart investment on our federal balance sheet. It's an even smarter investment for American families, businesses and our economy," he said on the Senate floor.

The lower price tag does make it easier to pass this bill out of committee, but then the real work begins, reports CBSNews correspondent Nancy Cordes. Senate leaders have to meld it with a more liberal reform bill that contains a public option - two very different bills and all these numbers are likely to change, reports Cordes.

The committee Baucus chairs is the fifth and last of the congressional panels to debate health care. The Senate Finance version has a decided middle-of-the-road flavor, shunning any provision for the government to sell insurance in competition with private industry. Nor does it require businesses to offer coverage to their workers, although large firms that do not would be required to offset the cost of any government subsidies going to those employees.

The measure would require that millions of Americans purchase private insurance for the first time, and would set up a new marketplace where policies would be available.

Federal subsidies would be available to millions of lower-income individuals and families to help defray the cost of coverage that would otherwise be out of their reach.

The measure would be paid for through a variety of tax increases and spending cuts, including savings of hundreds of billions of dollars from Medicare, the federal health care program for seniors.

Democratic leaders in both houses are hoping to hold votes on health care on the floor of the House and Senate within a few weeks.

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Anticipating approval by the Finance Committee this week, Majority Leader Harry Reid is already overseeing efforts to merge that bill with an alternative approved by the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions.

Reid is subject to intense cross-pressures, not only from the members of the two committees, but also from the Obama administration and rank-and-file senators seeking to mold the legislation to their liking.

Reid also must take into account the likely need to amass 60 votes behind any legislation, the majority needed to overcome any Republican filibuster.

Baucus has expressed confidence he has the votes for his measure inside the Finance Committee, and the major lingering question there is whether Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, will break ranks with fellow Republicans and vote for it. She has been steadily noncommittal in public statements, but is under pressure from her own party to oppose the legislation.

Wednesday's report from CBO's director, Dr. Douglas Elmendorf, stressed that the estimates were preliminary.

It said that by 2019, "the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured would be reduced by about 29 million," either through private insurance or by enrolling in federal programs. That would leave an additional 25 million uninsured, about one-third of them illegal immigrants who are not eligible for coverage under the bill.

"Under the proposal, the share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage would rise from about 83 percent currently to about 94 percent," the letter said.

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by olyboy October 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT
Apparenly these guys all flunked basic math. You cannot increase spending and end up with "savings." There has to be a massive tax increase or significant reductions in service for these numbers to make any sense. I might suggest that the dems are going to live up to the allegations they have made againt the repubs -- let the old folks die.
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by hungry1968-16 October 8, 2009 9:17 AM EDT
by rightwingconspirocy October 8, 2009 8:08 AM EDT
Still waging your personal war against Bush eh. So tell me lib, if it was wrong for Bush to spend all of that money why is it OK for Obama to do it?

It looks like your dream of National Socialism in America is slipping away...........






Are you kidding?!?!

Bush spent over a TRILLION on Iraq alone!!!

At least Obama is spending the money on AMERICA and AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!
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by Livinontheedge October 8, 2009 8:27 AM EDT
The far right has finally proven their hatred for Obama is purly racial and not political when they will agreee with the CBO on day and say they are the greatest thing since white bread and they next day because they say the health Care reform can be affored they trash the CBO. This just proves their motives are not political but obstructional at the least and racist at the worst.
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by endurorob_5 October 8, 2009 8:26 AM EDT
Livinontheedge October 8, 2009 8:20 AM EDT

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Quit your whining. You know well those figures yo give are from months ago and now the numbers are as follows.
63% for
36% against



Was it your personal poll that came up with these numbers?
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by Livinontheedge October 8, 2009 8:20 AM EDT
What does congress not understand? The majority of legal Americans do not want this bill! Whatever the cost projections are, they are sure to be wrong, as every cost projection by government has ever been. In the long run we do not want government anywhere near our doctors and health, period. This is just another way of getting votes from the poor, taxing the middle class, and fattening the wallets of those in congress. Stay out of our personal lives, you lying, greedy SOBs.
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Quit your whining. You know well those figures yo give are from months ago and now the numbers are as follows.
63% for
36% against
I don't want to hear your bellyaching about the CBO becuaes according to you they were absolutly correct back when they said the costs would be too much for this project. Now that they say the costs can be done you want to call them inaccurate and unreliable.. You dickheads can't have it both ways. It like you people not being able to make up your minds if the president is Communist ,Socialist or marxist. It can't be all three. Your protests show the kind if Rush limpballs Glenn Beck parrots that side with the far right.
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by rplat October 8, 2009 8:17 AM EDT
All you see is the facade but the devil is in the details (or in this case the assumptions). it's not difficult to make a program deficit neutral if you include such things as; forcing citizens to buy a product and threaten to jail them if they don't; take money form their bank accounts if the don't pay; rape Medicare and put seniors at risk; then plunder and pillage the national defense budgets to gather even more funds for this fiscal disaster.

Now, just what did people expect from that lap dog CBO? The last time they took issue with Obama he called in their boss and gave him an oral whipping. This is a well orchestrated sham and a lie designed to confuse and pacify the masses. This clandestine, totalitarian government is the antithesis of what the founding fathers intended. Everyone must insist they publish their assumptions and tell us how the intend to pay for this socialist healthcare manifesto.
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by reveal5 October 8, 2009 11:59 AM EDT
Folks on the right ignore real factual data if it does not support their political predisposition. They create misinformation and scare tactics and rarely engage in any reasonable discourse on any subject. It is beyond their capabilities. There is so much information available that anyone who posts that the government must publish their assumptions and tell us how they intend to pay for healthcare...is just uninformed and out of touch. The most uninformed folks are most likely to post false information, create boogeymen, and be the most upset. Solution...read...or listen to the news..and quit gumming up the works with fake facts and paranoid boogyman scenarios. Get in the game instead of being in the cheap seats throwing spitballs.
by fdd23 October 8, 2009 8:12 AM EDT
cbo said it will reduce the deficit--GREAT!!!...BUT, HOW MUCH WILL IT INCREASE MY TAXES TO REDUCE THIS DEFICIT? rob from peter to pay paul--amen...going to give me affordable coverage--health insurance is expensive--PERIOD!!! i'm not going to get something better for less money--i've heard that sales line before...
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by reveal5 October 8, 2009 11:53 AM EDT
If you are rich, you may lose part of your Bush tax cut. Everybody else should save some money on health insurance costs if reform passes.
by skeezix06 October 8, 2009 8:05 AM EDT
Same ole, same old. Counting dollars, ignoring people in an attempt to be able to declare victory. We need a third party.
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by endurorob_5 October 8, 2009 7:58 AM EDT
I have to question the numbers here. The last number I heard Obama quote was there were 30M without insurance. This article says the bill will reduce the number of uninsured by 29m and that will leave 25M uninsured. I am not a math major but I believe that puts the number of uninsure at 54M. Even if you subtract the one third of the 25M that are criminal immigrants that still leaves the number of uninsured at 45M or 46M. Also it says that 94% of the population will be insured by 2019. Given a projected population of 333,000,000 by 2019 that still leaves over 19m uninsured.
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by ahrats October 8, 2009 6:17 AM EDT
Quick history lesson, The British government gave exclusive rights to the East India Tea Co. to sell TEA in the colonies, and of course there was a TAX on the tea. A bunch of Bostonians decided they were not going to pay the TAX and threw the tea in the harbor. This was the basis for solgan "Taxation with Representation". Today we have the U.S. government forcing americans to pay the Health Insurance TAX,
does congress want a second AMERICAN REVOLUTION? What happens when there is so many people out of work except insurance agents, Congressmens, wall street executives, to pay your new TAX is the goverment going to start to throw the local people in jail or just put a lean on anything they own or just take away your possions on your lively hood? GET people back to work before you increase their TAXES!
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