October 7, 2009 8:39 AM

Some Pregnant Women Say No to H1N1 Vaccine

By
Jennifer Ashton
(CBS)  State officials told the federal government Wednesday how much vaccine they'll need to combat H1N1. Some of the first doses should go to pregnant women, who are 1 percent of the population but account for 6 percent of H1N1 deaths - 28 so far.

But not all pregnant women are eager to get the vaccine, reports CBS News Correspondent Dr. Jennifer Ashton.

Erin Mahoney thinks she's lucky - not brave - to be one of approximately 100 pregnant women around the country testing the new swine flu vaccine.

"I saw no reason to be nervous about getting the vaccine now," Mahoney said.

CBS News.com Special Report: H1N1

But many pregnant women are nervous about whether this new vaccine, which was produced and tested so quickly, is really safe. Only one in six pregnant women even get a regular flu shot.

"It's a difficult nut to crack, the pregnant population is resistant," said Dr. Iffath Hoskins, chair of the Obstetrics and Gynecology Department at Lutheran Medical Center.

Clinical trials on the vaccine have found no safety problems so far. But when the vaccine is given to millions, the government doesn't want people to jump to conclusions about any complications that may occur. Some 2,400 miscarriages occur every day, so health officials caution people should not assume they were caused by the vaccine.

"Some medical events will happen in the days following the vaccination. The question is, are they related?" said Dr. William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists is pushing hard for doctors to vaccinate their patients, saying any possible risk from the vaccine is less serious than the risk from the virus. Angie Stuteville died this week in Missouri just after giving birth.

"The largest number of deaths is in the pregnant women," Hoskins said. "The baby's future depends on a live, healthy mother."

One added benefit of the vaccination is that a pregnant woman who gets vaccinated passes along the protection to her newborn.

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by clearimages October 26, 2009 7:53 PM EDT
Preventative Techniques Against H1N1

PAY ATTENTION TO #3 AND #4

Most N95 respirators are designed to filter 95% particulates of 0.3µ, while the size of H1N1 virus is about 0.1µ. Hence, dependence on N95 to protect against H1N1 is like protecting against rain with an umbrella made of mosquito net.
Tamiflu does not kill but prevents H1N1 from further proliferation till the virus limits itself in about 1-2 weeks (its natural cycle). H1N1, like other Influenza A viruses, only infects the upper respiratory tract and proliferates (only) there. The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/ throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it?s almost impossible not coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):
1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
2. ?Hands-off-the-face? approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).
3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don?t trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don?t underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.
4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*
5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.
6.* Drink as much of warm liquids as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.
All these are simple ways to prevent, within means of most households, and certainly much less painful than to wait in long queues outside public hospitals.
Happy breathing!
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by clearimages October 26, 2009 7:46 PM EDT
Preventative Techniques Against H1N1

PAY ATTENTION TO #3 AND #4

October 8th, 2009
This message is from Dr. Vinay Goyal a renowned doctor who lectured on the topic H1N1 (SWINE FLU), its origin and precautions.
From : Dr. Vinay Goyal
Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS, DRM, DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, Saifee Hospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).
The Message???..
Thanks to media hype about H1N1, several people who trust me have either approached or called me to advice. The hype in media about the utility of face masks and N95 respirators as a tool for general protection against H1N1 can?t be deplored enough. Yesterday, a friend who listened wanted me to write down briefly what I advised so that he could tell others in similar words. Hence this short email to friends whom I have advised recently (and others whom I haven?t yet). Please realize that this is not an official advice, especially the one about face masks or N95.
Most N95 respirators are designed to filter 95% particulates of 0.3µ, while the size of H1N1 virus is about 0.1µ. Hence, dependence on N95 to protect against H1N1 is like protecting against rain with an umbrella made of mosquito net.
Tamiflu does not kill but prevents H1N1 from further proliferation till the virus limits itself in about 1-2 weeks (its natural cycle). H1N1, like other Influenza A viruses, only infects the upper respiratory tract and proliferates (only) there. The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/ throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it?s almost impossible not coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):
1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
2. ?Hands-off-the-face? approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).
3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don?t trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don?t underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.
4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*
5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.
6.* Drink as much of warm liquids as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.
All these are simple ways to prevent, within means of most households, and certainly much less painful than to wait in long queues outside public hospitals.
Happy breathing!
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by fabrat1 October 2, 2009 8:45 AM EDT
I plan to wait a bit longer before I get my kids the H1N1 shot. I'm sorry but it just hasn't been tested enough for me. This isn't an easy decision but I think I will wait till at least the end of November and maybe even later.
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by frozentex December 7, 2009 8:09 AM EST
I don't know if it's coincidence or not but my wife and I just lost our unborn baby boy at 33 weeks... 2 weeks after receiving the swine flu vaccine. Our good friends lost their baby girl a few weeks back as well. The mother was vaccinated at 23 weeks and 2 weeks later she went into premature labor. The baby was born alive and died shortly after delivery. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it seems really strange. Probably a good decision waiting on the vaccine.
by gomurr October 1, 2009 9:40 PM EDT
And we all know people in power don't lie......remember agent orange?
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by cabouthillier October 1, 2009 9:52 AM EDT
They Try to Change the Set Times: Swine & Seasonal Flu Vaccine Alert
They try to change the set times. The Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccine and apparently regular flu vaccine (Evidence of Thimerosal, H1N1 Virus in Seasonal Vaccine) are being used in an attempt to abruptly kill significant numbers of population, to bring the population numbers (blood types A, B, O ? those who do not belong to them) well below 200 million. This is the purpose of forced vaccinations, to kill many all at once and cause debilitating chronic symptoms in the blood types A, B and O, which have damaged DNA/proteins and weakened immune system. The number of these blood types is quickly approaching 200 million. By abruptly bringing the population numbers below 200 million, they believe they can change the set times and have victory over their Creator. But, their end will still come at the appointed time ? at that very hour and day predetermined long ago.
Vaccines were developed under the cover (lie) they will protect from harmful viruses and bacteria, and were never needed and are another fraud perpetrated on the people. Harmful viruses and bacteria thrive and replicate in the blood types A, B & O, which have blood pH that has deviated away from a neutral pH of 7.00. A neutral blood pH of 7.00 destroys/removes harmful bacteria and viruses. The blood type AB is the normal healthy blood type with a neutral pH of 7.00 and has normal DNA and immune system.
Vaccination is in fact the most effective and efficient method to transport poisons more directly into the liver, to displace and deplete copper from that location. The liver is where much of the blood proteins (and other proteins) are synthesized and is where the greatest percentage of copper is stored. Copper is vital in protein synthesis. Vaccine poisons settle and accumulate in the liver depleting and displacing copper, thereby causing a mineral imbalance and deviation from a 7.00 pH, resulting in near-immediate massive DNA damage, by disrupting normal protein synthesis. This aberration in protein synthesis is indicated in malformed and missing proteins, reflected in acidic blood (type B) or alkaline blood (types A & O), depending on individual propensity of the mineral imbalance, i.e., toward acidic or alkaline. As of 2005, the blood pH of blood types A/O was set up to average pH of 7.54 and the blood type B was set up to a higher acidity level (lower pH). The blood pH (blood types A,B & O) has been carefully managed through methodical, intentional poisoning, to reach the current life-critical levels specifically targeting this point in time. The vaccines, planned long ago for this period in time, are formulated to push the blood pH past the critical points, in order to kill and disable many.
For explanation see: http://www.unveilingthem.com/PoisoningOfMankindCopperDeficiency.htm

C.A. Bouthillier
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by gomurr October 1, 2009 4:13 AM EDT
Now show us where it says H1N1 will not contain squaline and/or mercury. personally, I trust the FDA about as far as I can throw them....
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by stuart-johns1 October 1, 2009 7:45 AM EDT
Ah yes. Another conspiracy theorist. You guys are soooooooooo much fun.
by ritalogin October 1, 2009 4:47 PM EDT
Squalene IS an adjuvant -- and there are NO adjuvants in the H1N1 vaccine. (read the previous post, quoted directly from the Center for Disease Control). And thimerosol IS the name for the preservative MERCURY. There is NO MERCURY in the H1N1 as indicated on the CDC website.
Canada is using the adjuvants and so is Europe. But the CDC did NOT approve them for the US.
by ritalogin October 1, 2009 3:51 AM EDT
Read the FACTS from CDC gov site:

Will the 2009 H1N1 vaccines that are currently recommended contain adjuvants?
No. According to current federal plans, only unadjuvanted vaccines will be used in the United States during the 2009 flu season.

Will the 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
The 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines that FDA is licensing (approving) will be manufactured in several formulations. Some will come in multi-dose vials and will contain thimerosal as a preservative. Multi-dose vials of seasonal influenza vaccine also contain thimerosal to prevent potential contamination after the vial is opened.
Some 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines will be available in single-dose units, which will not require the use of thimerosal as a preservative.
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by gomurr October 1, 2009 2:47 AM EDT
It's my understanding that squaline is a major cause of Gulf War Syndrome as well as many neuromuscular diseases.....so I know where my choice lays.During any flu outbreak, a large number of people will die. The stronger you keep your immune system, the better off you will be. If your immune system is compromised, you have to decide what is an acceptable risk. Personally, I say no to squaline and mercury. Everybody is entitled to their own choice [this includes anyone telling me I MUST be vaccinated], just educate yourself first.
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by SusanStoHelit October 1, 2009 2:57 PM EDT
Do educate yourself - look at the percentage odds of dying or being maimed from the flu (and your odds of getting the flu, of course) - and compare them to the odds of a similarly bad reaction from the vaccine. Don't look at only ONE side of the odds to make your choice.

I see this all the time - people see (exaggerating the odds here, because I don't want to type a ton of zeros) a 1 in 50 chance of something mildly bad happen if they take the vaccine, and thus don't take it, and expose themselves to a 1 in 5 chance of something truely horrible happening.

Look at BOTH sides of the odds.
by healthhavencom September 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT
Freedom of Choice, Good.

Mandates, Bad.
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by stuart-johns1 October 1, 2009 7:44 AM EDT
Yes! By ALL means don't you DARE let a mandate save you and your baby!!!
by itgranny September 30, 2009 9:29 PM EDT
I don't know what it looks like in people but I've seen what a new type of flu (not this latest variety) can do to a herd of sows. it was my job to go around the barn and pick up 8-10 litter's worth of premature piglets a day during a bout of the flu. At first we would try to save the piglets but there were too many and it was a lost cause. Finally we just started euthanizing them. The sow's got sick as hell too. Far sicker than a sow that was barely pregnant or not pregnant at all.

Unfortunately, there's some that will need to see before they believe. Be prepared to see higher incidence of premature babies along with the extra costs and problems linked to premies, as well as human abortion storms. Sad they're willing to risk it.
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