Some Pregnant Women Say No to H1N1 Vaccine

Pregnant Women are High Risk for Swine Flu, but Many Fear Effects of Vaccine

(CBS)  State officials told the federal government Wednesday how much vaccine they'll need to combat H1N1. Some of the first doses should go to pregnant women, who are 1 percent of the population but account for 6 percent of H1N1 deaths - 28 so far.

But not all pregnant women are eager to get the vaccine, reports CBS News Correspondent Dr. Jennifer Ashton.

Erin Mahoney thinks she's lucky - not brave - to be one of approximately 100 pregnant women around the country testing the new swine flu vaccine.

"I saw no reason to be nervous about getting the vaccine now," Mahoney said.

CBS News.com Special Report: H1N1

But many pregnant women are nervous about whether this new vaccine, which was produced and tested so quickly, is really safe. Only one in six pregnant women even get a regular flu shot.

"It's a difficult nut to crack, the pregnant population is resistant," said Dr. Iffath Hoskins, chair of the Obstetrics and Gynecology Department at Lutheran Medical Center.

Clinical trials on the vaccine have found no safety problems so far. But when the vaccine is given to millions, the government doesn't want people to jump to conclusions about any complications that may occur. Some 2,400 miscarriages occur every day, so health officials caution people should not assume they were caused by the vaccine.

"Some medical events will happen in the days following the vaccination. The question is, are they related?" said Dr. William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists is pushing hard for doctors to vaccinate their patients, saying any possible risk from the vaccine is less serious than the risk from the virus. Angie Stuteville died this week in Missouri just after giving birth.

"The largest number of deaths is in the pregnant women," Hoskins said. "The baby's future depends on a live, healthy mother."

One added benefit of the vaccination is that a pregnant woman who gets vaccinated passes along the protection to her newborn.

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Preventative Techniques Against H1N1

PAY ATTENTION TO #3 AND #4

Most N95 respirators are designed to filter 95% particulates of 0.3µ, while the size of H1N1 virus is about 0.1µ. Hence, dependence on N95 to protect against H1N1 is like protecting against rain with an umbrella made of mosquito net.
Tamiflu does not kill but prevents H1N1 from further proliferation till the virus limits itself in about 1-2 weeks (its natural cycle). H1N1, like other Influenza A viruses, only infects the upper respiratory tract and proliferates (only) there. The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/ throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it?s almost impossible not coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):
1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
2. ?Hands-off-the-face? approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).
3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don?t trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don?t underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.
4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*
5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.
6.* Drink as much of warm liquids as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.
All these are simple ways to prevent, within means of most households, and certainly much less painful than to wait in long queues outside public hospitals.
Happy breathing!

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Preventative Techniques Against H1N1

PAY ATTENTION TO #3 AND #4

October 8th, 2009
This message is from Dr. Vinay Goyal a renowned doctor who lectured on the topic H1N1 (SWINE FLU), its origin and precautions.
From : Dr. Vinay Goyal
Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS, DRM, DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, Saifee Hospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).
The Message???..
Thanks to media hype about H1N1, several people who trust me have either approached or called me to advice. The hype in media about the utility of face masks and N95 respirators as a tool for general protection against H1N1 can?t be deplored enough. Yesterday, a friend who listened wanted me to write down briefly what I advised so that he could tell others in similar words. Hence this short email to friends whom I have advised recently (and others whom I haven?t yet). Please realize that this is not an official advice, especially the one about face masks or N95.
Most N95 respirators are designed to filter 95% particulates of 0.3µ, while the size of H1N1 virus is about 0.1µ. Hence, dependence on N95 to protect against H1N1 is like protecting against rain with an umbrella made of mosquito net.
Tamiflu does not kill but prevents H1N1 from further proliferation till the virus limits itself in about 1-2 weeks (its natural cycle). H1N1, like other Influenza A viruses, only infects the upper respiratory tract and proliferates (only) there. The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/ throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it?s almost impossible not coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):
1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
2. ?Hands-off-the-face? approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).
3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don?t trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don?t underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.
4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*
5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.
6.* Drink as much of warm liquids as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.
All these are simple ways to prevent, within means of most households, and certainly much less painful than to wait in long queues outside public hospitals.
Happy breathing!

[fabrat1]

I plan to wait a bit longer before I get my kids the H1N1 shot. I'm sorry but it just hasn't been tested enough for me. This isn't an easy decision but I think I will wait till at least the end of November and maybe even later.

[gomurr]

And we all know people in power don't lie......remember agent orange?

[cabouthillier]

They Try to Change the Set Times: Swine & Seasonal Flu Vaccine Alert
They try to change the set times. The Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccine and apparently regular flu vaccine (Evidence of Thimerosal, H1N1 Virus in Seasonal Vaccine) are being used in an attempt to abruptly kill significant numbers of population, to bring the population numbers (blood types A, B, O ? those who do not belong to them) well below 200 million. This is the purpose of forced vaccinations, to kill many all at once and cause debilitating chronic symptoms in the blood types A, B and O, which have damaged DNA/proteins and weakened immune system. The number of these blood types is quickly approaching 200 million. By abruptly bringing the population numbers below 200 million, they believe they can change the set times and have victory over their Creator. But, their end will still come at the appointed time ? at that very hour and day predetermined long ago.
Vaccines were developed under the cover (lie) they will protect from harmful viruses and bacteria, and were never needed and are another fraud perpetrated on the people. Harmful viruses and bacteria thrive and replicate in the blood types A, B & O, which have blood pH that has deviated away from a neutral pH of 7.00. A neutral blood pH of 7.00 destroys/removes harmful bacteria and viruses. The blood type AB is the normal healthy blood type with a neutral pH of 7.00 and has normal DNA and immune system.
Vaccination is in fact the most effective and efficient method to transport poisons more directly into the liver, to displace and deplete copper from that location. The liver is where much of the blood proteins (and other proteins) are synthesized and is where the greatest percentage of copper is stored. Copper is vital in protein synthesis. Vaccine poisons settle and accumulate in the liver depleting and displacing copper, thereby causing a mineral imbalance and deviation from a 7.00 pH, resulting in near-immediate massive DNA damage, by disrupting normal protein synthesis. This aberration in protein synthesis is indicated in malformed and missing proteins, reflected in acidic blood (type B) or alkaline blood (types A & O), depending on individual propensity of the mineral imbalance, i.e., toward acidic or alkaline. As of 2005, the blood pH of blood types A/O was set up to average pH of 7.54 and the blood type B was set up to a higher acidity level (lower pH). The blood pH (blood types A,B & O) has been carefully managed through methodical, intentional poisoning, to reach the current life-critical levels specifically targeting this point in time. The vaccines, planned long ago for this period in time, are formulated to push the blood pH past the critical points, in order to kill and disable many.
For explanation see: http://www.unveilingthem.com/PoisoningOfMankindCopperDeficiency.htm

C.A. Bouthillier

[gomurr]

Now show us where it says H1N1 will not contain squaline and/or mercury. personally, I trust the FDA about as far as I can throw them....

[stuart-johns1]

Ah yes. Another conspiracy theorist. You guys are soooooooooo much fun.

[ritalogin]

Squalene IS an adjuvant -- and there are NO adjuvants in the H1N1 vaccine. (read the previous post, quoted directly from the Center for Disease Control). And thimerosol IS the name for the preservative MERCURY. There is NO MERCURY in the H1N1 as indicated on the CDC website.
Canada is using the adjuvants and so is Europe. But the CDC did NOT approve them for the US.

[MrsBnB]

ritalogin, I thank you for taking a researched point of view. However, a small correction. The H1N1 vaccine WILL contain thimerosal in multi-dose units as a preservative. However, you can request the vaccine in single-dose units, which will NOT require the use of thimerosal. If you educate yourself, you can lower the perceived risks of these vaccinations through your own choices.

[ritalogin]

Read the FACTS from CDC gov site:

Will the 2009 H1N1 vaccines that are currently recommended contain adjuvants?
No. According to current federal plans, only unadjuvanted vaccines will be used in the United States during the 2009 flu season.

Will the 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
The 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines that FDA is licensing (approving) will be manufactured in several formulations. Some will come in multi-dose vials and will contain thimerosal as a preservative. Multi-dose vials of seasonal influenza vaccine also contain thimerosal to prevent potential contamination after the vial is opened.
Some 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines will be available in single-dose units, which will not require the use of thimerosal as a preservative.

[gomurr]

It's my understanding that squaline is a major cause of Gulf War Syndrome as well as many neuromuscular diseases.....so I know where my choice lays.During any flu outbreak, a large number of people will die. The stronger you keep your immune system, the better off you will be. If your immune system is compromised, you have to decide what is an acceptable risk. Personally, I say no to squaline and mercury. Everybody is entitled to their own choice [this includes anyone telling me I MUST be vaccinated], just educate yourself first.

[SusanStoHelit]

Do educate yourself - look at the percentage odds of dying or being maimed from the flu (and your odds of getting the flu, of course) - and compare them to the odds of a similarly bad reaction from the vaccine. Don't look at only ONE side of the odds to make your choice.

I see this all the time - people see (exaggerating the odds here, because I don't want to type a ton of zeros) a 1 in 50 chance of something mildly bad happen if they take the vaccine, and thus don't take it, and expose themselves to a 1 in 5 chance of something truely horrible happening.

Look at BOTH sides of the odds.

[healthhavencom]

Freedom of Choice, Good.

Mandates, Bad.

[stuart-johns1]

Yes! By ALL means don't you DARE let a mandate save you and your baby!!!

[itgranny]

I don't know what it looks like in people but I've seen what a new type of flu (not this latest variety) can do to a herd of sows. it was my job to go around the barn and pick up 8-10 litter's worth of premature piglets a day during a bout of the flu. At first we would try to save the piglets but there were too many and it was a lost cause. Finally we just started euthanizing them. The sow's got sick as hell too. Far sicker than a sow that was barely pregnant or not pregnant at all.

Unfortunately, there's some that will need to see before they believe. Be prepared to see higher incidence of premature babies along with the extra costs and problems linked to premies, as well as human abortion storms. Sad they're willing to risk it.

[Stan_Lippmann]

These shots contain mercury. There is no safe level for mercury. There have been about 2 million pregnancies since April. The odds of dying from the swine flu are 1:2,000,000/56=1:40,000. Odds of dying or being maimed from any vaccine are about 1:5000, so it's safer not to take the vaccine. The problem with the public mind and the professional mind is they deny that vaccines are the leading cause of chronic illness in the world. It is actually a long term WHO mass murder campaign to reduce the population by 2 billion by 2050. Why would anyone trust a doctor or a journalist or a bureaucrat to shot anything into them, unless they are already in some emergency situation. Only in the strictest neo-Darwinian sense does any of this make any sense. I suppose if you are stupid enough to believe in this and too timid to resist, I guess you maybe don't deserve to survive. That's establishment theory, not mine.

[truthforhumanity]

Many people are becoming aware that the flu vaccines are not as safe as promoted by the drug companies and mass media. The vaccines contain thimerosal (mercury) and squalene (an adjuvant to "turbocharge" the active ingredients). The problem is these ingredients are coming under more scrutiny as being the cause of horrendous health complications when injected into people. Search engine these two components and you'll find some interesting information. Take the time and effort to inform yourselves before you roll up you sleeve and get jabbed.

[truthforhumanity]

Many people are becoming aware that the flu vaccines are not as safe as promoted by the drug companies and mass media. The vaccines contain thimerosal (mercury) and squalene (an adjuvant to "turbocharge" the active ingredients). The problem is these ingredients are coming under more scrutiny as being the cause of horrendous health complications when injected into people. Search engine these two components and you'll find some interesting information. Take the time and effort to inform yourselves before you roll up you sleeve and get jabbed.

[truthforhumanity]

Many people are becoming aware that the flu vaccines are not as safe as promoted by the drug companies and mass media. The vaccines contain thimerosal (mercury) and squalene (an adjuvant to "turbocharge" the active ingredients). The problem is these ingredients are coming under more scrutiny as being the cause of horrendous health complications when injected into people. Search engine these two components and you'll find some interesting information. Take the time and effort to inform yourselves before you roll up you sleeve and get jabbed.

[MrsBnB]

I'm still doing my research on this subject. However, I think there is some information that you may be interested in from the CDC website.

1. Does the 2009 H1N1 flu shot have an adjuvant or squalene in it?
Adjuvants are agents that are sometimes added to a vaccine to make it more effective. There are no adjuvants (such as squalene) in either the 2009 H1N1 or seasonal flu shot used in the United States.

2. Does the 2009 H1N1 flu shot have mercury in it?
There is no evidence that thimerosal (a mercury preservative in vaccine that comes in multi-dose vials) is harmful to a pregnant woman or a fetus. However, because some women are concerned about thimerosal during pregnancy, vaccine companies are making preservative-free seasonal flu vaccine and 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine in single dose syringes for pregnant women and small children. CDC advises pregnant women to get flu shots either with or without thimerosal.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/vaccination/pregnant_qa.htm

Therefore, no need to worry about squalene, and a thimerosal-free vaccine is available to those who are concerned. I am currently 10 weeks pregnant, and have chosen to have the seasonal flu vaccination, as the body of research is fairly stable. I have not yet made my decision about H1N1. But please, do the research before giving or believing false information.

[erasmus111]

by SusanStoHelit September 30, 2009 7:41 PM EDT
No one dead from the vaccine.


Ummm, that could be because it hasn't come out yet.

[SusanStoHelit]

Read the article - it's been being tested for some time - and on a pregnant woman who commented for this article.

[erasmus111]

by SusanStoHelit September 30, 2009 9:37 PM EDT
Read the article - it's been being tested for some time - and on a pregnant woman who commented for this article.


No, not that long and not that many people. They haven't had time. And I wonder just how many pregnant women they tested it on.

[erasmus111]

by erasmus111 October 1, 2009 3:04 AM EDT
by SusanStoHelit September 30, 2009 9:37 PM EDT
Read the article - it's been being tested for some time - and on a pregnant woman who commented for this article.


No, not that long and not that many people. They haven't had time. And I wonder just how many pregnant women they tested it on.


I am not saying that people shouldn't have the vaccine. You said that no one was dead from it, and I was just stating the reasons why that could be.

[stn_sage]

I can't see how ANY shots---other than vitamin and minerals---could be healthy for an unborn fetus! There will be plenty of time after the baby is born, to junk their bodies up with germs!

And if this shot is so darn safe, why is anyone administering this germ exempted from personal responsibility AND liability by law?!

If it's totally safe, exemption is unnecessary! Think about it!

[SusanStoHelit]

Nothing is perfectly safe - but then again - the flu is VERY not safe for your unborn baby. It's a killer. You always must choose your risks.

[SusanStoHelit]

28 women dead - not from the vaccine - from the illness. No one dead from the vaccine. I sure know what my choice will be!

And I'm pregnant - just barely - I'll be in line for the vaccine when it comes out.

[stn_sage]

Great! Good for you! How about YOU letting others make THEIR own personal health decisions for themselves!?

[SusanStoHelit]

Oh, I'm sorry - was my eloquent writing so overpowering that you lost your will? Or did you somehow think I could control you via the Internet?

[unravelled]

LOL, nobody has really had a chance to be vaccinated yet, just wait. You really think millions of vaccines are all going to be flawless? A recent study on 22,000 Amish people who do not get vaccinated showed only 4 had autism, compare that to the 1 out of 155 ration always advertised. Out of those 4, 3 were vaccinated with vaccines that contained THIMEROSAL (MERCURY.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMqYlnAiIUU

[IEEEEEE]

People,

Do your own research. Just because pharmaceutical companies say you need a shot and the CDC backs them up does that mean it's safe? Look at what happened to some of the vaccine recipients of the last flu scare in 1976. How about the vaccines that were sent to the Czech Republic from Baxter Corp. that were tainted with the Avian Flu Virus. That's right a vaccine tainted with a live virus only found because someone decided to test the batch of vaccines on ferrets before administering to the public. All the ferrets died. There have been other cases of different kinds of vaccines tainted with the AIDS virus. Baxter Corp. just happens to patent the H1N1 vaccine a year before the virus hit the streets. People WAKE UP! Big Pharma is all about making money. Not about keeping you safe. If you think I'm lying do your own research. This information is readily available to those who care.