Parents Weigh H1N1 Vaccines

(CBS)  A classroom of fifth graders in Washington, D.C. have been studying up on the H1N1 virus, reports CBS News correspondent Michelle Miller.

"They said they were going to start vaccine-ing people, like, maybe in October," said one student.

And even though the last thing the want is another shot, they're pretty grown up about the idea of a vaccine.

Children are especially vulnerable to the H1N1 virus. The CDC recommends that school-aged kids be among the first to get vaccinated.

And parents seem to be getting the message. In a new , 45 percent say it's very likely they'll sign their kids up for the shot. Another 22 percent say it's somewhat likely.

"We've talked to our pediatrician and he thinks it's a good idea," said John Cavanaugh, who has twins.

But D.C. pediatrician Joanna Sexter has doubts about its safety.

We don't yet know a whole lot about the swine flu vaccine," Sexter said.

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Concern over the haste of this inoculation program stems from one back in 1976. Twelve Americans died and hundreds more were paralyzed after getting the swine flu vaccine.

"I'm probably not going to be the first doctor on the block to give the vaccine," Sexter said.

Clinical trials on the new vaccine have begun on children between the ages of 6 months to 17 years. And while early results of adult testing found no serious side effects, final results aren't due out until late October, potentially after the government launches the first 45 million doses nationwide.

"You hear stories about how they're rushing to make huge quantities of vaccine," said Jeanie Mah, a parent.

So some parents say they're not taking any chances.

"I'm just not quite there yet until we get more research on what the effects could be on children so young," said Kwame Brown, a parent.

But Erin Loubier and her kids have reason to be among the first in line.

She and her 8-year-old daughter contracted H1N1 this summer. Now, she says, she'll take all recommended precautions - including a vaccine.

[what_is_safe]

I got my 4 years old daughter and myself vaccinated today. Since I have lupus I believe it was smart to get it as I believe the risks of getting the H1N1 are far bigger from those of getting the shot. I do know that people at higher risks of dying are those with pre-existing conditions like mine. With my daughter going to school around 4 years old who sometimes forget to cover their mouth and cough on their classmates face/toys/hands etc she is at risk of getting the virus herself which more likely pass it on to me.

Those who say doctors recommend shots to earn money, are wrong. If Holistic doctors and naturalists etc worked for free, and cured people in other ways with so called natural remedies (sometimes made by them), then maybe there is a question, but they also want your money?

I think it?s a risk not to get vaccinated, especially if you can get it for free!

[jayrobinson]

I keep reading about these conspiracies and my god are most of these comments made by ignorant people. I keep reading that all the doctors know that its bad for you...... Like which ones? I work along side of doctors at my work (hospital) and have talked to dozens from pediatricians to coroners and everything in between. All of them have gotten their shots and all of them have said the vaccine is safe. I stood in line the other day with a handful of doctors at the hospital I work at, and waited to get the shot. They have all confirmed that there is nothing bad about this shot, and the people making the waves are the same people that have no knowledge of this stuff. Jesus, does no one moderate these boards? I believe I saw someone below me say that Obama (who they said was Muslim) devised this to wipe out all non-muslim believers. Thats about the stupidest crap ive read today.

[INVITROBABY]

i wish everyone could talk about this like grown ups.i was ready to get my 15 month old the shot.then i start hearing all this stuff how it could be dangerouse.can it really be worse then geting h1n1?i see in other states children that have died or laying in a hospital fighting for their life,and it is from geting h1n1 not a shot to prevent it.i did everything in the world to get my son here and want to take care of him.so i would like to hear peoples conserns with any proof.please email me [e-mail] with any help or ideas we can share to help make the right choice for are children.

[borandy]

This article is propaganda to get you to take the shots. DON'T DO IT! The swine flu is a Eugenics Fraud! Google "EndGame" and watch it! get Educated people before you listen to anything the mainstream media as to say. DO NOT TAKE THE SHOT, DO NOT GIVE IT TO YOUR KIDS! BE RESPONSABLE PARENTS....RESEARCH THIS ISSUE! GOOGLE....BAXTER INTERNATIONAL FBI GO TO FLUSCAM.COM get the real news from Infowars.com

[longhorn8000]

If all of you worshipped JESUS, you wouldn't worry about such garbage.

[longhorn8000]

The SWINE FLU, is a lie. There is no such thing as the swine flu. It is just what they are calling the regular flu. If the government can make you think that there is a new disease and that you need a shot for it, look at how much money they will generate. You notice that they haven't told you how much it will cost you for the shot.They are playin mind games with the American people to get your money. WAKE UP AMERICA<, YOU elected a muslim in for president. All any MUSLIM wants is to destroy all NON-MUSLIMS. Think about it.

[pdahall]

The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.
The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries. Fortunately, astute lab workers in the Czech Republic discovered the deadly combination and blew the whistle before a worldwide disaster was unleashed.
Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world?s pandemic vaccine.
Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.
Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

[pdahall]

What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.
Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome

[pdahall]

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:54 AM

By: Dr. Russell Blaylock


An outbreak of swine flu occurred in Mexico this spring that eventually affected 4,910 Mexican citizens and resulted in 85 deaths. By the time it spread to the United States, the virus caused only mild cases of flu-like illness.
Thanks to air travel and the failure of public health officials to control travel from Mexico, the virus spread worldwide. Despite predictions of massive numbers of deaths and the arrival of doomsday, the virus has remained a relatively mild disease, something we know happens each year with flu epidemics.
Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.
It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.
This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,?Where the hell it got all these genes from we don?t know.? Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.
Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company. Both of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.
The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.
The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.
The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries.

[longhorn8000]

H.I.V. is a disease that our own government unleashed on the american people so that they can rake in all the money that they get from every long term illness. Haven't any of you ever heard of a little thing called,:BIO-LOGICAL WARFARE:.? If you think that the government has your best interests at heart, YOU ARE AS DUMB AS THE DAY IS LONG.

[G H M]

As you cand see by some of the commits
Its a plot to make us all marx's socialist.
Are the Republicans not going to take it!!!

If they don"t take it, it's nature way of eliminating the defects and stupit people..

[pdahall]

Page 3 So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern?squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.
The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.
I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found?to no surprise?that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in ?prestigious? medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Several studies have been done. One Japanese study looked a five different vaccines from major vaccine manufacturers that supply them in the United States and elsewhere and they found that up to sixty percent of the vaccines were contaminated. When they looked at things other than just live contaminations, for instance, DNA fragments, RNA fragments, viral protein fragments, they found that virtually all these vaccines are contaminated and the interesting thing is when they asked the virologist and this appeared in Science Magazine when they asked him, well, does that concern you that this could cause disease in humans,? they hesitated and said, well, we don?t think it will.? Well, that?s not much assurance so when I looked through the literature and I do a lot of scientific literature reading in the area of contaminants the brain,what you find out is that many of these DNA fragments, RNA fragments, and protein fragment of viruses can enter the brain and reside there for a lifetime in the microglia and produce constant microglial activation in the brain. Well, that produces chronic brain inflammation. It can lead to seizures, autoimmune disorders, dementia, depression, a lot of behavioral problems, memory loss, confusion, disorientation, and when you re-stimulate those fragments that are in the brain by additional vaccines you get a particularly intense reaction in the brain and in that instance you can produce such severe neurological damage that you induce full blown dementia, you produce uncontrollable seizures, a multiple sclerosis-like syndrome.