September 2, 2009 6:57 AM

Top-Selling Bible to Undergo Revision

(AP)  The top-selling Bible in North America will undergo its first revision in 25 years, modernizing the language in some sections and promising to reopen a contentious debate about changing gender terms in the sacred text.

The New International Version, the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals, will be revised to reflect changes in English usage and advances in Biblical scholarship, it was announced Tuesday. The revision is scheduled to be completed late next year and published in 2011.

"We want to reach English speakers across the globe with a Bible that is accurate, accessible and that speaks to its readers in a language they can understand," said Keith Danby, global president and CEO of Biblica, a Colorado Springs, Colo.-based Christian ministry that holds the NIV copyright.

But past attempts to remake the NIV for contemporary audiences in different editions have been plagued by controversies about gender language that have pitted theological conservatives against each other.

The changes did not make all men "people" or remove male references to God, but instead involved dropping gender-specific terms when translators judged that the original text didn't intend it. So in some verses, references to "sons of God" became "children of God," for example.

Supporters say gender-inclusive changes are more accurate and make the Bible more accessible, but critics contend they twist meaning or smack of political correctness.

Acknowledging past missteps, the NIV's overseers are promising that this time, the revision process will be more transparent and that they will actively promote what they describe as a long-held practice of inviting input from scholars and readers.

The NIV was first published in 1978 and more than 300 million NIV Bibles are in print worldwide; its publishers and distributors say the translation accounts for 30 percent of Bibles sold in North America.

The Committee on Bible Translation, an independent group of conservative scholars and translators formed in 1965 to create and revise the NIV, will oversee the new revision.

An effort earlier this decade to create a separate version of the NIV that used more gender-inclusive language in an attempt to reach a younger audience fell flat with groups that felt it crossed the line.

That edition, Today's New International Version, will cease publication once the new-look NIV is released, said Moe Girkins, president of Grand Rapids, Mich.-based Zondervan, its North American publisher.

"Whatever its strengths, the TNIV has become an emblem of division in the evangelical Christian world," Girkins said.

It was the TNIV that ushered in changes from "sons of God" to "children of God," or "brothers" to "brothers and sisters." In Genesis I, God created "human beings" in his own image instead of "man."

Many prominent pastors and scholars endorsed the changes. But critics said masculine terms in the original should not be tampered with. Some warned that changing singular gender references to plural ones alters what the Bible says about God's relationships with individuals.

The Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying the edition "has gone beyond acceptable translation standards."

"We fell short of the trust that has been placed in us," said Danby, of Biblica. "We failed to make a clear case for the revisions."

Danby said that freezing the NIV in its 1984 state was also a mistake, however. He emphasized that in the revision, about 90 percent of the NIV will be unchanged.

Douglas Moo, a professor at Wheaton College and chairman of the Committee on Bible Translation, said the group is committed to "a complete review of every gender related change."

"I am not sure how it's going to come out," Moo said. "We have a genuine, authentic review process ... Everything is on the table."

One of the most vocal critics of gender-inclusive translations, Randy Stinson of the Louisville, Ky.-based Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, said the group supports updating the NIV. He credited organizers for their openness.

"We're still probably going to differ on the way they handle some of the gender language," Stinson said. "But we're open and anxious to see what they come up with and we're really going to be reserving judgment."

Most changes will have nothing to do with gender inclusivity, Moo said. And the TNIV provides a glimpse of likely changes: In the '84 NIV, Mary is "with child," but in the TNIV she is "pregnant." In the NIV version of Psalm 146:9, "The Lord watches over the alien." The TNIV used "foreigner" instead of "alien."

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by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 10:24 AM EDT
by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:12 AM EDT
You said, "I have a brain, common sense, knowledge, logic, and the history of christians using their religion..."

These things are good for society, however, there is another dimension you are not speaking from. I cannot explain it to you or anyone, however, we will never understand the things of God with those tools.







At least you admit that using your brain, common sense, knowledge, and logic cannot co-exist with a belief in a god.
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by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 12:55 PM EDT
That is not what I said. The combination is needed. That is why we were created with brains and logic so we can move in the right direction when we are called.
by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 10:21 AM EDT
by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:08 AM EDT
You would be surprised how the Bible came into being. One thing, it was written over millenniums instead of a single sitting and it was not passed around for anyone to copy. All of the books were written and then combined. You should read it some time to see just that aspect of it. But, that just cant' be. I know your type.






Many sections were removed from the bible too, like "The Book of Jubilee", "The Testament of Solomon", etc, etc.

How and why were the "words of god" removed from the bible? Wouldn't he be made if someone censored his "words"?
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by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:49 AM EDT
If you know what sections were removed and you know that they were important, then, buy them and believe them and apply them because going to heaven is the most important thing! If God doesn't like it then He will do something about it. He just doesn't have to do it on my timeline. I know that sounds hoky to some, but, it is reasonable to come to that conclusion since He did create the universe. The only problem with the Big Bang is that everything in a vaccum would still be traveling outward and in disorder. Order cannot occur everytime in an evolutionary process. Someone didn't apply that to the formula.
by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 10:16 AM EDT
by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:01 AM EDT
You know what I meant about "your jesus", if it is not CBS, it's something, even if it is You.

"Asking" to those like you is described as "beating". True Christian only ask if you would like to know Jesus. If someone asked you to buy Pampered Chef cookware would you feel a beating? No. Please be honest when you use the word "beat".

By the way, some of you think the Bible is a "fairy tale". Well, then God has the copyright on it and Disney needs to pay up. If it is a fairy tale, why are people so mad about it? Why aren't people reading it? Why isn't it shelved with Dr. Seuss? I don't see any negative comments about "Green Eggs & Ham" or "Cinderella". Come on, people. This is reality!







If gays want to get married, will the "religious right" let them?

If a woman NEEDS to have an abortion, will the "religious right" let her?

Israel constantly harms America. Will the "religious right" allow us to cut our ties with this terrorist nation?





"Green Eggs & Ham" and "Cinderella" are far more real than your bible.

Since you believe in it, let me ask you a few questions:

Do you believe that women are "property", and men rule EVERYTHING like the bible teaches? Have you sold your daughters into slavery yet, like the bible advocates?

Do you believe in slave ownership like the bible mentions from cover to cover?

How many "concubines" do you have on the side? Does your wife know about them?

I have to work on Sunday's, and I like to eat shellfish. Do you now have a compelling urge to stone me to death like the bible orders you to do?


What a joke.
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by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:40 AM EDT
Thanks for your questions, Hungry. Thank you for reading my comments, too.

First, you have mixed politics with religion when you use "religious right". The "religious right" does not need to be in politics at all. Change does not come from the Law. That is why God does not use the 10 Commandments to force people to do right any more. He places the Law in man's heart and the commandments are summed up in only two (2) commands now: 1) Love God. 2) Love your neighbor. (Believe me, it's in the Bible)

Gays can get married if they want to. No one can change the mind, only God can change a person and it takes place in the heart (not the real heart).

Women can have an abortion if she needs to or not. Opposing it does not matter. The way Christians believe, an aborted child goes to heaven anyway. If the "religious right" got their way and 2,000,000 babies were saved from abortion that would amount to only about 10% or 20,000 would make it to heaven. I do not agree with abortion and would voice my belief when given the opportunity. Just like you.

America is separate from it's religion, but, the morals of religion run America. It doesn't matter what America does. All that can be done from my position is to voice my opinion and let the chips fall where the may. I'm preparing for another kingdom and will arrive the moment after I leave this one.

Looks like you have read parts of the Bible or were told about it before you read it. Jesus is the one I follow. The culture of the world is different than the culture Jesus has begun. Look at the instances in the New Testament where Jesus has communicated with women. You may get a different understanding of where True Christians are coming from. The same goes for slavery, concubines, Sunday's, shellfish. No, I do not have an urge to stone anyone. Keep in mind that it is more of what Jesus did and does that drives me. You are right, it is a joke, only let me add that it is a joke only without Jesus.
by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 9:54 AM EDT
by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 9:41 AM EDT
Believe it or not, Aesop and the writer of Mother Goose were as real as Jesus. It's just that Jesus becomes real to those who He has chosen.






Incorrect.

Aesop and the writer of Mother Goose were as real as the people that wrote the bible.



Curious though - who wrote Genesis 1, if no one was there to write it down?
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by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:08 AM EDT
You would be surprised how the Bible came into being. One thing, it was written over millenniums instead of a single sitting and it was not passed around for anyone to copy. All of the books were written and then combined. You should read it some time to see just that aspect of it. But, that just cant' be. I know your type.
by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 9:47 AM EDT
by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 9:38 AM EDT
You are like everyone else. You believe what you have been told in this article. Your Jesus is CBS News. Can't you see that? If you didn't watch cartoons all your life you may believe in something worth believing.







I don't have a "jesus".

I have a brain, common sense, knowledge, logic, and the history of christians using their religion like a club to beat their beliefs into everyone else.

And while I haven't watched cartoons in many years, ANY cartoon is far more realistic than your easily debunked book.
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by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:01 AM EDT
You know what I meant about "your jesus", if it is not CBS, it's something, even if it is You.

"Asking" to those like you is described as "beating". True Christian only ask if you would like to know Jesus. If someone asked you to buy Pampered Chef cookware would you feel a beating? No. Please be honest when you use the word "beat".

By the way, some of you think the Bible is a "fairy tale". Well, then God has the copyright on it and Disney needs to pay up. If it is a fairy tale, why are people so mad about it? Why aren't people reading it? Why isn't it shelved with Dr. Seuss? I don't see any negative comments about "Green Eggs & Ham" or "Cinderella". Come on, people. This is reality!
by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 10:12 AM EDT
You said, "I have a brain, common sense, knowledge, logic, and the history of christians using their religion..."

These things are good for society, however, there is another dimension you are not speaking from. I cannot explain it to you or anyone, however, we will never understand the things of God with those tools.
by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 9:38 AM EDT
by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 8:37 AM EDT

You cannot make me believe the Bible has fairy tales any more than I can make you believe the stories are real.







If you don't think that burning bushes, talking snakes, and people that lived until they were 900 years old is fairy tales, then you must also believe that Aesop's fables and Mother Goose is true as well.
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by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 9:41 AM EDT
Believe it or not, Aesop and the writer of Mother Goose were as real as Jesus. It's just that Jesus becomes real to those who He has chosen.
by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 9:31 AM EDT
by briannorwood September 2, 2009 9:11 AM EDT
These evangelical heathens should come back to the One True Church. The Church built upon by St. Peter-- The Holy Roman Catholic Church. They are having difficulty with their "interpretation" of the Bible because they are nothing but charlatin heretics.








How many children were raped, sodomized, and molested in those "holy" churches, by those church leaders?

Answer: Hundreds of thousands



And how many of those atrocities were covered up by "The Holy Roman Catholic Church"?

Answer: almost all of them.




And you call THEM charlatan heretics?
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by gunownerdan September 2, 2009 9:29 AM EDT
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by hungry1968-16 September 2, 2009 9:27 AM EDT
"The top-selling Bible in North America will undergo its first revision in 25 years, modernizing the language in some sections and promising to reopen a contentious debate about changing gender terms in the sacred text."






I can see it already:

3 Corinthians will be added, where Jesus fully condemns gays, gay marriage, liberals, democrats, abortions, abortion clinics, birth control and anything else that the conservative evangelicals don't like.

Then 4 Corinthians will be added, where Jesus supports and endorses republicans, conservatives, marriage only between a man and a woman, abstinence only sex education, mega churches, calling for the government to fund churches with taxpayer money, etc, etc.



It's funny how the alleged "word of god" can change, even though no one talks to this alleged god to see if his opinions have changed lately.
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by CommentMaker September 2, 2009 9:38 AM EDT
You are like everyone else. You believe what you have been told in this article. Your Jesus is CBS News. Can't you see that? If you didn't watch cartoons all your life you may believe in something worth believing.
by babooph September 2, 2009 9:25 AM EDT
Evangelical bible.....I assumed they used a comic book-checked out this one they are now using-a bit like a comic book,but not as well illustrated.
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