September 1, 2009 3:39 PM

Jaycee's Stepdad: Her New Life "Like Mars"

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(CBS)  After 18 years, Jaycee Lee Dugard, 29, is now reunited with her family.

Jaycee's stepfather Carl Probyn said on "The Early Show" Monday, Jaycee and the two daughters she bore while confined are taking in their new life in California step by step.

"It's like being on Mars," Probyn said. "This is a brand new situation. ... It's pretty remarkable what they have to face."

Probyn said it's going to take a long time for his stepdaughter and her daughters to integrate into a life outside of captivity, but they are receiving assistance from National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Probyn said Jaycee's daughters believed she was their sister, and didn't know she was abducted.

Jaycee, who was abducted at age 11 from her bus stop, said she feels guilty for bonding with her abductor, Probyn said. He added her children cried when Garrido was arrested.

"They were a family," he told "Early Show" co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez. "...They were attached to each other."

Probyn added his wife, Terry, said Jaycee's daughters, who were reportedly fathered by her abductor, are "clingy," yet very intelligent -- despite never attending school.

Police are still looking for evidence on her kidnapper Phillip Garrido's Antioch, Calif. property. New photos of the background tent compound where Jaycee allegedly lived for 18 years have been released. Officials are still treating the Garrido home as a crime scene.

Both Phillip Garrido and his wife, Nancy, have pleaded not guilty to a total of 29 counts, including forcible abduction, rape and false imprisonment.

Read more stories on the Dugard case at CBSNews.com:

Witness: Jaycee's Kids Seemed Normal
Bone in Backyard: Is it Human?
Garrido Revealed Rape Fantasy in Testimony
Jaycee Lee Dugard's Daughters Cried When Their Father, Phillip Garrido, Was Arrested
Slideshow: Inside Jaycee Dugard's Terror Tent
Slideshow: Jaycee Lee Dugard Found Alive

Also appearing on "The Early Show" were the two women who helped crack the case: Allison Jacobs, a University of California at Berkeley police officer, and Lisa Campbell, manager of the University of California Police Department Special Events. To hear how they discovered Jaycee Lee Dugard, click on the video below:


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by rickk421 September 2, 2009 3:04 PM EDT
What compels us to do harm to others for personal satisfaction? Why do mature educated human beings have a need to prey on their young? There are so many horror stories today of mental and physical pain and anguish, I feel sick to my stomach at times. I am over 50 now, spent 20 in the military and my wife and I have two daughters of our own who grew to adulthood without worrying about any sexual trauma or abuse in their home. It appears they were lucky as it is becoming more and more ?normal? for children and young adults to experience abuse. Why are we so compassionate a nation when it comes to people like these? What are we, the people of America becoming?

To all you who have suffered, all I can give is my sincere empathy and hope for you. To anyone who has abused children or young adults; with all who I am I hope that you can experience the same grave fear and excruciating pain you so willingly gave to others.
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by georgefranklin22 September 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT
The Task Ahead: A Report to the Committee on Ideas and Discussions on Contemporary Socialism and its Furtherance in America

Delivered to the Progressive Organization, Davis Wharf, VA: to be defined as archive under consideration, prior to consent of Progressive Organization Chairman, draft document 2 September 2009

(Draft report: final edited publication to be forwarded Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee for consideration)

(Co-chairmen commentary suggests language and tone too radical. Rewrite sections 2.5, 2.6. Remove section 1.2 'PUMAs'.
REMOVE references to 'Leader', 'Stalin', 'Lenin', 'Obamist', 'Clintonist')

(Under review: not for publication, members give consent not to replicate or distribute report until consent granted after Congressional break)
(DLCC(b))


Socialism in America: Change

History

By 2007, public rupture with imperialism was complete. The call for workers to overthrow the bourgeoisie was heard. At this time the bourgeoisie was complacent, with the anti revolutionary classes being confident that the proletariat would not unite under one Leader.

In 2008, the enemy began to sense danger, and tried to drive a wedge between those revolutionaries supporting the Clintonist wing of the Party, and those supporting the Obamist wing. Rush Limbaugh, a well known capitalist enemy, tried to use 'tactics' to divide the movement, however his gutter dog methods failed.

John McCain, as the representative of the oppressors, ineptly decided to choose the vulgar Sarah Palin as his 'running mate'. A true enemy of the revolutionary masses, Palin attempted to encourage violence against comrade Obama.

This bullying tactic, so familiar to the ruling class, did not work. The people, disgusted with the rampant accumulation of riches by the power elite, threw off their chains and rose up to take power.

The Clintonists have been reconnected with the national ideology of the Party.

PUMA ? defects and double dealings of these Party enemies

Here, remark must be made upon the small, mendacious group of wreckers who are called 'PUMA': according to these snakes, the acronym stands for 'People United Means Action'. However, the true title of the group is an antirevolutionary slogan, 'Party Unity My Ass'.

When Comrade Obama took power, members of PUMA who were willing to renounce their allegiance to Palin and McCain, were welcomed back into the Party.

To comrade Clinton goes our allegiance, they said! But actions speak louder than words! Their votes flowed to the imperialist oppressors

As Palin spoke at the convention of the ruling elite, these salivating dogs pronounced early victory. How wrong they were!

According to research conducted by the National Committee into party enemies, members of PUMA still exist. These treacherous creatures pretend to support revolutionary progress but in fact are blatantly against socialist ideology. They claim to be female emancapists! But only the Party can, and has engaged in social progress towards this end.

So those PUMAs who remain committed to their filthy cause are identified as enemies and will be treated as such.

Party conduct ? stages of revolution

What, then, is the next stage in the socialist revolution?

The permanent dictatorship of the proletariat must be completed within two stages. The first concerns the welfare of the country, and the loyal countrymen. The second concerns the identification and elimination of enemies, spies, wreckers, and counterrevolutionaries.

What must be done?

Collectivisation of property and wealth, and elimination of Party enemies and defectives

Collectivisation

Let us heed the words of our leader, Comrade Obama: "spread the wealth around."

The wealth will pass into the hands of the state. All works, factories, land and property will pass under the control of the Party. Private ownership of banks, transport and the press will be abolished to encourage a fundamentally socialist organisation of society.

While land, banks, factories and places of production remain in the hands of the bourgeoisie, capitalism remains in full force. This inequality must be fixed.

The beginning of this transition to socialism has begun with the Party taking control of state health care. Put not your trust in town hall meetings! Ignore the garbage minds of those who preach against revolution and against the Party. Their fragile rhetoric and aggression (the two primary tactics of the imperialist) will come to nothing.

How empty-headed the oppressor is! See his attempt to maintain power! Is it not clear to him that his days are numbered? That soon he shall be crushed, along with all those who support him!
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by gramto8 September 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT
This has nothing to do with a little girl being kidnapped, held for 18 long years, raped repeatedly and forced to be a second 'wife' to a person who should have been in prison.

In answer to your post, you are doing what you accuse Palin of doing.
by AttentionDeficit September 2, 2009 12:18 PM EDT
shizzle: what has this got to do with politics?
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by gerbiber September 1, 2009 9:41 PM EDT
This ends with Jaycee being a two family child. Phillip & his wife will remain in jail for almost the remainder of their lifes. For Phillip this is a "mission accomplished."

Jaycee will raise two children with her natural mother involved. Jaycee may meet another man & marry later & have a typical life.

No big impact, i mean she's not going to become a stockbrocker I feel, but would she have anyhow?

She's a human female, and I feel it's likely that she would have had children anyhow. So that didn't change.

Accurate assessment of the impact of this not read very often. What we are screaming at like a pack of monkeys is just an unpreferred method of procreation.

Jaycee has a little bit of learning to catch-up on and soon sh will want to meet a man of her choosing.

She'll be exceptionally curious to see, and travel. Jaycee probably would make a fun person to show around and tour with, she's attractive, and putting a smile on her face would make a man happy.
She will have suitors courting her soon.
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by gramto8 September 2, 2009 5:31 AM EDT
I am having a difficult time understanding how you can just say that this is in the normal. This child was abducted, raped, held prisoner for 18 years, and made pregnant at 13 (had the baby at 14). I have grandkids that age, and 13 is FAR too young to be having babies. I do know that a low of kids are sexually active at that age; I do not have my head in the sand on that. However, their being active sexually is by CHOICE and not by force. BIG DIFFERENCE!!

This girl will probably have a hard time trusting anyone for a long time. With all that has happened to her, I don't blame her.
by gramto8 September 2, 2009 5:33 AM EDT
lot* of kids
by gerbiber September 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT
There exists the possibility that the abductor has abducted other little girls, as they are looking around the property. If he is found to have abducted & murdered other girls then i would suspect he was abducting for the purpose of bringing them home & assessing them for breeding potential....and if they failed they were murdered.

Likely if selecting a child to serve as a breeder, you choose one which is compliant & shows no signs of a "wild hair." Like choosing a wild Mustange (horse) to tame. generally you do not one that's a screamer & complainer. Also, human children are genetically programmed to cooperate...it's in everyone's genes.

Cooperation with the group is a genetic trait that allowed us to succeed. e.g., if we pay attention, watch & listen, then we learn & profit--it's all quite natural.

Also, I suspect that Jaycee was likely given Pot to keep her cool headed & high, and may have even been given arousal drugs when Phillip wanted sex, and she may have actually had waht was seemingly a great sex life with Phillip because of arousal drugs--which may have affeted her health. If a drug like cocaine was used then jaycee have heart issues in the future.

After gibing birth to the 1st child, then everything changed for Jaycee, being istinctively dedicated to baby care, and all that pregnancy time & experience, i see no chance for her to have run away.

She's lucky to be alive, i doubt she in good health, as i suspect she may have been given illicit drugs. She's only in fair health given that she's not 'diseased,' or malnourised.

The condition of her heart is likely not good.
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by TheMasses2002 September 1, 2009 5:06 PM EDT
Jaycee's Stepdad: Her New Life "Like Mars"
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1) There is no atmosphere on Mars in which humans can breathe.
2) No human has been to Mars (including Jaycee's Stepdad).

I don't think his statement is neither true nor accurate.
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by gramto8 September 2, 2009 5:23 AM EDT
Just had to be an arse, didn't you? Almost everyone else realizes that the stepdad meant that Jaycee is having to learn to live in a totally foreign environment, even though it is still here on earth. The 'like Mars' comment is to show that her whole world has been so far removed from what it was that she is now having to adjust to everything. I would imagine that she was not allowed access to the Internet, cable or satellite tv, or myriad other advances which are common today.
by willow013 September 9, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
To TheMasses2002: JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!
by bluharley September 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT
It sounds like an insurmountable challenge to me. I wish them all well.
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by SteveInSA September 1, 2009 2:19 PM EDT
Tina Marie, you're very brave, thanks for telling your story. Perhaps you could go to the news media so you can tell the world, hopefully helping others from being victimized and possibly encouraging others to come forward.

-Steve
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by Hosheen September 1, 2009 8:44 AM EDT
"yet very intelligent -- despite never attending school." Do these people think attending school makes you intelligent? Mostly, schools suppress intelligence by demanding that you accept what you are told without ever questioning anything. This accounts for religion, politics, professional wrestling, and NASCAR.
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by bghayd September 1, 2009 2:12 AM EDT
Toldyouso, while I do agree with some of what you say I?m afraid some, I defiantly cannot agree with. The mind too can be raped. A high minded attitude, does not remove the torturous abuse withstood by the mind as it lives through these experiences. Even long after the body abuse is over. Just living with such memories and even unjustified shame, can continue to take a mental toll. Toldyouso, what you say almost sounds like something an abuser might say trying to give some false solace to the abused. Tina Marie has done a marvelous job of coming back from a terrible body and mind experience. The body has long since healed. The mind will always need support both from its own slow mental recuperative processes, and from those people around this lady. Tina Marie, it sounds like you have come very far back from a long and exhausting experience, a mind experience, a mental experience. Write that book. You have a story to tell that we all should hear. Thank you
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