Florida's Gay Adoption Ban Under Fire

Florida's strict ban on adoptions by gay people is going before a state appeals court.

The state is appealing a Miami-Dade County judge's November 2008 ruling that the law is unconstitutional. The ruling came in the case of Martin Gill, who along with his partner has adopted two young boys. The appeals court is hearing arguments Wednesday in Miami.

State attorneys say the judge essentially legislated from the bench and that state lawmakers should decide the matter. Attorneys for Gill and the two boys say the judge was expected to review the facts in detail before making her decision.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which is representing Gill, calls Florida's gay adoption ban the broadest such law in the nation.

[EndOfTheWorld1]

1 Corinthians 6:9 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be decieved: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders...."

Leviticus 18:22 "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable"

Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and recieved in themselves the due penalty for their perversion"

1 Timothy 1:10 "The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine"

But most importantly ---- 2 Thessalonians 3:14 "If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother"

I want to make note of these as solid examples of the scriptures stance against living life in lust, living life being led by the brain inbetween our legs. The push for gay rights for our country's future is a faulted pursuit that I feel if we continue to seek, will confuse our kids even more. I hope all of you remember how confusing being a kid already was. And weren't we always taught and continue to teach that making decisions thinking with our genitals (lol erections) is the worst way to make a decision? With that thought, i connect the entire gay movement to this idea, because it is a political push entirely based on sex....really? Politically (and morally) we are so confused now that we can't sit back and say that an entire legislation movement stemming from in between our legs is the wrong place to begin a sensible conversation? Come on America. And lastly, as an African-American male, it really burns me to hear people connecting the gay movement to that of civil rights. The civil rights movement was one of black people fighting to be able to remove themselves from poverty and starvation? (Which still hasnt entirely came lol) But I'm insulted that the necessaty for food, financial potential, being able to stay alive that blacks battled for which are needs, are compared to a movement that is based on sex, a want.

[mensarino]

Mrs. Spam----Then I hope and pray that you are now and remain childless.

[DaVicar5]

Mrs. Spam was blessed with many children...and she knows how to raise them properly!

[mensarino]

DaVicar---Nice try,but we were talking about the Constitution,the official rulebook of the U.S., and it doesn't refer to god in any fashion.Nice try though.

[mensarino]

Newco----The studies you cite are outdated and/or authored by psychologists long dicredited by the APA.I'm a psychologist and I resent you trying to lend some psychological validity to your homophobic viewes.
NOW,be off with YOU.

[cs4466]

Lots of bigotry and hate around these days. People try to justify it by saying it isn't bigotry and it isn't hate... "oh look how disgusting this is!", as if their personal dislike was some sort of automatic qualifier for supernatural damnation.

They forget (or wish to obscure) that being g.ay isn't about s.ex. It isn't about labels or religion or politics or laws. It's about who you are capable of loving, body and soul, and being loved by in return. It defines a culture that has existed as long as mankind itself has existed.

Some people really hate g.ay and lesbian people. I can't say for sure why. Is it because we're not 100% like them? Is it because we may not share their religion? Is it because they don't personally share the same feelings? I don't know. But it is because of that hatred, exemplified in posts here, a g.ay man or woman might get shot, robbed, beaten or staked out on a fence in Wyoming and left to die. That's what it means to hate.

Most g.ay and lesbian people have the courage to stand up to that hate, and we do. Some give into it, and begin to hate themselves. All I know is that I know who I love, and why, and there isn't enough hatred, bigotry, rhetoric or ignorance in all the world to change that.

As time passes, civil rights are being recognized for g.ay and lesbian people, and many of the old bigotries tend to fade. But there will always be a few, like some who post here, that will seek to destroy instead of understand.

[calgal4]

I agree with you...as time passes, this issue is going to go away. My son's generation just doesn't see why it's an issue now and he's in the Navy. I think loving parents of whatever gender are more needed today than ever before. That old idea that pedophiles are gay is just nonsense!!! Pedophiles are just plain sick. Their gender roles aren't heterosexual vs. homosexual...they are deviants.

[krotek]

Why bother adopting and molesting young minds into accepting a life style that is not natural and then when they mature you run the possibility that they will turn on you then get charged with molesting them or deceiving them of what a real family is really made of.
Why not adopt a dog or a cat? So much cheaper and they won?t curse you out.

[eus109937]

Hopefully the State Appeals Court will confirm the ruling and the laws banning people from adoption will be striken as unconstitutional. It is unbelievable that such discriminatory laws are in place.

[mr.tarver]

You have to stop and think about the kids. These kids already in a bad situation. Most of them dont have no one to love them. Its good that people want to adopt and show them love. But how are they gonna react when some child gets in their face say things like you have 2 daddys or 2 mommies. And other sort of things that kids say. Kids are some of the most cruel people in the world when it comes to things like that. Think about the kids and how its gonna affect their life. I know if i had grown up in the house with 2 daddys i would probally need counceling alot of it.

[DaVicar5]

by mr.tarver "You have to stop and think about the kids. These kids already in a bad situation. Most of them dont have no one to love them. Its good that people want to adopt and show them love."


Pedophiles would love to adopt them, too. And I'm sure they would show them Love as well.

[mensarino]

Da vicar----If that is true,how come the single most important document in our country fails to mention a god or creator even once?The Constitution does not have a single reference to a god.

[DaVicar5]

UH, sorry, Mensario...but this Country was NOT established under the "Constitution":

Any US History Professor will remind you that it was The Treaty of Paris, which officially ended the American Revolution.

It is The Treaty of Paris, which was signed on September 3, 1782, and ratified on April 17, 1783, that stands as the LONE DOCUMENT which officially recognized American independence.

Signed by Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and John Jay? (AKA The "Founding Fathers")

IT READS:
"In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.
It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch-treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America, to forget all past misunderstandings and differences that have unhappily interrupted the good correspondence and friendship which they mutually wish to restore . . . "

Holy Trinity?
Divine Providence?
Grace of God?

Tell me again that the United States of America is NOT a Christian Nation?

[misha256]

The Treaty of Paris clearly specifies no powers or rights to the religious entities named. In addition the 1st amendment strips the option from the federal government for establishing roles in religious affairs. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..." The law is quite clear on the matter.

[icjunior97]

Wow until you read these comments you just see how many crazy people there are. Most of them hiding behind religion or picking the parts they like from our laws.

[DaVicar5]

How is it that we "hide behind Religion", when the Country we live in was established on Christian principals?

[Wolf1944]

"when the Country we live in was established on Christian principals?"

The country was established on Christian school administrators?