August 23, 2009 3:09 PM

Mullen: Afghanistan "Deterioriating"

(CBS/AP)  The situation in Afghanistan is "serious and deteriorating," according to the top U.S. uniformed officer, presenting the Obama administration with a two equally unattractive choices: increase U.S. troops levels to beat back a resilient enemy, or stick with the 68,000 already committed and risk the political fallout if that's not enough.

"Afghanistan is very vulnerable in terms of (the) Taliban and extremists taking over again, and I don't think that threat's going to go away," Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Sunday.

Mullen refused to say whether additional forces would be needed.

Mullen also expressed concern about diminishing support among a war-weary American public as the U.S. and NATO enter their ninth year of combat and reconstruction operations.

Against that backdrop, President Barack Obama's decision on troop levels is just a few weeks away. Gen. Army Stanley McChrystal, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, is completing an assessment of what he needs to win the fight there. Already, one leading Republican is suggesting McChrystal will be pressured to ask for lower troop totals than he requires.

"I don't think it's necessarily from the president," said Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, in an interview broadcast Sunday. "I think it's from the people around him and others that I think don't want to see a significant increase in our troops' presence there."

In joint TV interviews, Mullen and U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry said last week's presidential election in Afghanistan was historic, given the threats of intimidation voters faced as they headed to polling stations. It could be several weeks, however, before it's known whether incumbent Hamid Karzai or one of his challengers won.

"We're not sure exactly what the level of voter turnout was," said Eikenberry, a retired three-star Army general. "Taliban intimidation, especially in southern Afghanistan, certainly limited those numbers."

Charges of fraud in the election are extensive enough to possibly sway the final result, and the number is likely to grow, according to the commission investigating the complaints.

The independent Electoral Complaints Commission has received 225 complaints since the start of Thursday's vote, including 35 allegations that are said Grant Kippen, the head of the U.N.-backed body.

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Mullen said President Obama's strategy for defeating the Taliban and al Qaeda is a work in progress as more U.S. troops are put in place, Mullen said. But the security situation in Afghanistan needs to be reversed in the next 12 month to 18 months, he added.

"I think it is serious and it is deteriorating, and I've said that over the last couple of years, that the Taliban insurgency has gotten better, more sophisticated," Mullen said.

Just over 50 percent of respondents to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released this past week said the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting.

Mullen, a Vietnam veteran, said he's aware that public support for the war is critical. "Certainly the numbers are of concern," he said. But, he added, "this is the war we're in."

Three years ago, the U.S. had about 20,000 forces in the country. Today, it has triple that, on the way to 68,000 by year's end when all the extra 17,000 troops that Obama announced in March are to be in place. An additional 4,000 troops are arriving to help train Afghan forces.

"I recognize that we've been there over eight years," he said. "But this is the first time we've really resourced a strategy on both the civilian and military sides. So in certain ways, we're starting anew."

"We're just getting the pieces in place from the president's new strategy on the ground now," he said. "I don't see this a mission of endless drift. I think we know what to do."

McChrystal's orders from Mullen and Defence Secretary Robert Gates was "to go out, assess where you are, and then tell us what you need," Mullen said. "And we'll get to that point. And I want to, I guess, assure you or reassure you that he hasn't asked for any additional troops up until this point in time."

McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said McChrystal should say exactly how many troops he needs, let the Congress debate it and Obama would make the ultimate decision.

McChrystal and other military leaders in Afghanistan should use the same aggressive "clear and hold" approach that Gen. David Petraeus used successfully in Iraq, McCain said. That will create a secure environment for people so that economic and political progress can be made, he said.

On the question of what it will take to turn the tide in Afghanistan, McCain echoed Mullen's projection: "I think within a year to 18 months you could start to see progress."

McCain acknowledged that public opinion on Afghanistan is slipping. But he said that opinion could be reversed.

"I think you need to see a reversal of these very alarming and disturbing trends on attacks, casualties, areas of the country that the Taliban has increased control of."

Mullen and Eikenberry appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" and CNN's "State of the Union." McCain's interview Friday with ABC's "This Week" was aired Sunday.

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by woeisme1 August 24, 2009 12:02 AM EDT
I think we should get out. Let OBL rot in a cave. He may be dead anyway. Irregardless, this is such a drain on us. We are war weary. We should be. What has been the benefit to the U.S. by these wars? I don't see it.

I think we should get out ASAP. We need to abandon the "build a nation" fallacy and for a change, concentrate on some of the issues that are eating THIS nation from within.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to be the POTUS. Our country is in a hugh mess. To so many, the problems seem overwhelming and for some they are.

Americans are war weary. We are weary of the wars of partisan politics most of all. How does one fight against that? Extremism sucks no matter from where it hails. Whether from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, or even from here in the once good ole' USA, extremists suck.
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by babooph August 23, 2009 11:59 PM EDT
When Nam proved to be a loss ,we left -seems that worked well.
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by ffoulkes-2009 August 24, 2009 2:59 AM EDT
We left...not because we were losing (we won just about every battle), but because people at home got bored with it and didn't let our men win the war. That made all those who died or were injured to have sacrificed for nothing.
by Dadgumgerman August 23, 2009 9:12 PM EDT
Don't fizzle-out on blasting Al Qaeda, or disentregating the Taliban, please America! Our men/women soldiers need 100% backing in this thug-filled area! The insurgents must be toppled. They want nothing more than to kill and choke all venues of Democracy!! More, harder, faster and never miss the mark on these loonies.
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money August 23, 2009 7:39 PM EDT
by mljohns00 August 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT
Point is:

Russia had 300,000-plus troops in Afghanistan, and spent a decade there, only to bring their troops home in disgrace to a failed economy and a discredited government.

How long would you put up with invaders in your country, destroying your towns, killing civilians, and keeping killer drones in the air over your head 24/7?
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What is seven years and counting, Alex.

(I love playing jeopardy)
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by cattiej August 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT
Where are the 87,000 weapons that have gone missing in Afghanistan? What has happened to the $33 Billion dollars that we have given Afghanistan? How many corrupt, greedy Afghanistan politicans and police are in Afghanistan? Hundred's....We have a volunteer military, how soon before the draft? These soldiers are over there because they choose to be in the service. They don't need to protect me here in this city. All they are doing is making the U.S. be hated more and more. Bring our soldiers home to rid us of the drug dealers, the illegal aliens and the scammers of the citizen our great country. Put the soldiers on our borders to keep out the illegals, I am tired of my tax money going to support their kids in our schools.
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by mysteriousjz August 23, 2009 11:35 PM EDT
Contrary to the anti-immigrant rhetoric, Undoc. immigrants are not eligible for welfare, unemployment, or food stamps. They don?t get free medical care. Although hospitals are required to provide emergency care to everyone, including immigrants, hospitals do charge everyone. It is not free care. Despite the fact that they are tax-payers, illegal immigrants cannot take advantage of the social programs their taxes support. They are not eligible for health programs like Medi-Cal. I personally know many immigrants who are paying their bills like everyone else. Undocs do not even qualify for unemployment insurance which they have actually paid just like anybody else. Even doc. immigrants are not eligible for all the above at aleast until after 5 years of legal residency and even then they hardly qualify for bread and milk if in desperate need.

Scools are generally supported by sales or property taxes. Everyone pays these taxes, including illegal immigrants, whether they own a home, or rent, as the tax is eventually passed to a renter by the owner.

These are facts, not opinions, so there is no argument about them.
by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money August 23, 2009 6:11 PM EDT
Oh, the headline ISN'T 'Mullen in Afghanistan interior decorating'

Whew! Almost thought we had a metro-sexual CJCS.
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by nextgenman09 August 23, 2009 5:52 PM EDT
If only that Fake Republican RINOnut Bush would havegrown a pair and told that bloated dumpling Cheney where to stick it, and focused on Afghanistan instead of invading Iraq for no reason, then we wouldn't be in this mess.
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by Illuminated1 August 23, 2009 5:37 PM EDT
Aren't the Taliban forces interfering in the affairs of those around them militarily and inhumanly executing and torturing innocent civilians because they refuse to follow extremist islam?
What's funny or dare I say ironic is that it has been discovered the Taliban are quite likely the descendants of a missing tribe of Israel...Even the Muslim world considers them to be different.
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by Illuminated1 August 23, 2009 5:20 PM EDT
The reason our troops are there is 3 fold.
1. To bring down the Al Quada, and Taliban forces so a civil government friendly to its peoples and ours can be estaablished....This is a good goal no?
2. To protect American interests in Afghanistan. The oil pipelines go through the northern parts of Afghanistan, now a pipe will travel to the coastline for shipment on tankers...This is a good goal too, isn't it?
3. To find and bring to trial before execution of the remaining conspirators of 9/11....certainly a worthy goal as well, I think...

But there is more, the drug trade has skyrocketed, and someone in Russia, Israel,Afghanistan and the U.S. is profiting.....what could this mean?
It means that the troops will increase and the battles will rage unendingly, all while someone is making drug profits.
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by mysteriousjz August 23, 2009 5:29 PM EDT
1. You are missing the point. AlQaeda is just a fantasy for perpetual war. How many times, they said they crippled them and the next time, they blame Alqueda for a never ending attack somewhere. talibans are indigenous people of the land-they are COMMON MAN.

2) I dont know about this

3) The culprits vanished the same day. The rest are just boogeymen to continue exerscising the might and force on people to bring them into submission. What is your definition of 'conspirators". Almost every man on this earth now talks about hate against US and its policies. Bring the whole world to trial?
by SkirtLifter August 23, 2009 5:02 PM EDT
Dear CBS,

Please clear up the double postings.

Thank you,

Berkeley
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