August 13, 2009 11:56 AM

Harmony Fills Generation Gap, Study Finds

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(AP)  Forty years ago, young Americans moved to music their parents despised, upended the conventions of their elders and, as the saying went, did not trust anyone over 30.

These days? All is groovy in the American family.

So finds a poll, out Wednesday, that examines the generation gap four decades after Woodstock and the rebel yell of 1960s youth.

The Pew Research Center noticed what could be an eternal truth: Young people and older people exhibit marked differences in attitudes. Whether it is the work ethic, religious beliefs, racial tolerance, the way they treat other people or the use of technology, the young and the old are not on the same page.

What is striking, researchers say, is that the differences seem not to matter anymore.

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Young people, far from rejecting the values of their parents, seem to fault themselves for not living up to those standards. People under 30 tend to think older people have better moral values than they do, the poll said.

"This modern generation gap is a much more subdued affair than the one that raged in the 1960s," said survey authors Paul Taylor and Richard Morin, "for relatively few Americans of any age see it as a source of conflict - either in society at large or in their own families."

They have come together over music, too. Rock rules across generations, and the Beatles are high on the list of every age group's favorite musicians.

Inside the home, the researchers say, "something approximating peace seems to have broken out between parents and teenagers."

Only 10 percent of parents of older children said they often have major disagreements with their kids. Nearly twice that many reported sharp conflicts with their own parents back when they were growing up. Parents also say they are spending more time with their children than their parents spent with them.

In the years since Aug. 15-18, 1969, the weekend the muddy chaos of the Woodstock event marked rock music as the great divide between generations, that fissure seems to have closed.

In 1966, one survey found rock was distinctly on the margins - liked only by 4 percent, disliked by 44 percent, clearly the most unpopular form of music. Now it is No. 1 overall, and the favorite of every age group except those 65 and over, who prefer country, according to the poll.

In the new poll's multigenerational battle of the bands, the Beatles come out on top, favored over the Eagles from the 1970s; the late Johnny Cash, a dominant country star for nearly half a century; the recently deceased Michael Jackson; Elvis Presley and the Rolling Stones.

The Beatles are just one of the bands from the 1960s and '70s loved by people who were born well after those acts broke up.

Hip-hop is a dividing line now: the second favorite music type for the young, off the charts for people 50 and older.

The poll follows one done a month ago that puzzled researchers because so many people in it - close to 80 percent - said they believed a generation gap exists in America. That is even more than identified a generation gap in 1969: 74 percent.

Pew decided to take a closer look and found that the gap, if broad, is not deep.

Only one-quarter of respondents see strong conflicts these days between the generations. That is down from 42 percent who saw such tensions in 1992. Fully two-thirds now say such conflicts are either weak or do not exist.

Among other findings:

-55 percent identified strong or very strong conflicts between immigrants and U.S.-born citizens; 47 percent between the poor and the rich; and 39 percent between black and white.

-73 percent say younger and older people are very different in their use of technology, 69 percent see such differences in musical tastes, 58 percent in the work ethic, and 54 percent in moral values.

Pew interviewed 1,815 people by telephone July 20 to Aug. 2 for a poll that has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.7 percentage points. Its findings about musical acts were put to a second round of interviews.

In 1964, Berkeley free speech activist Jack Weinberg commented, "We have a saying in the movement that we don't trust anybody over 30." Others picked up on the thought. It inspired a slogan on buttons.

That attitude seems gone. If anything, people under 30 may be disinclined to trust themselves.

Two-thirds of respondents under 30 said older people have a superior work ethic, better values than the younger generation and more respect for other people. Older people agreed they are superior in those ways.

The young got the nod from young and old on matters of tolerance. They are considered more open on race and on groups different from them.

Forty years after, opinions about Woodstock remain diverse. "Hippie drug fest," said one respondent. "A celebration of freedom and new ideas," said another. "Everyone went to a field and got naked," said a third.

But the rancor behind that disagreement is long gone.

AP
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by johnhouse August 12, 2009 5:26 PM EDT
My spouse and I have no children, but time with our teen relatives passes too quickly. We like them and thier friends. I think today's young people are a golden generation and I wish them well.
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by Hosheen August 12, 2009 4:47 PM EDT
"Parents also say they are spending more time with their children than their parents spent with them." Perhaps this is really the key. Ignore anyone and they will not like you and you'll have conflicts when you do interact.

Despite that, it seems every generation has to have styles in clothes, hair, and music guaranteed to irritate their parents. Now, it's hip-hop, tattoos, and body piecing. Three really disgusting things that will only get worse. What will their children do to top that?
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by veritas_1212 August 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT
I think the really baggy pants with crotch at the knees is the signature style of youth today. I'll bet their children make the return to body hugging fashions. Let's hope so.
by hennighg August 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT
How depressing. I always looked forward to the kids rebelling against my generation and changing stuff for the better. Now they are sheep. So sad. In America.
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by mecury69 August 12, 2009 3:24 PM EDT
Fashion can always be looked at as well.

Tattoos are something the younger generation is using as dividing line.

Long hair, piercings, etc. are ways to stand out and show some counter culture.

Fortunately, the hippies cut their hair and the piercers just took out their hardware when they outgrew it.

The ones with tats have a long, long, long life of regret.
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by pcevet4 August 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT
I like this young generation's sense of justice, their environmental consciousness and their intolerance of racism, sexism and homophobia. I like the way they can sniff out pretension and phoniness. They are not the ones threatening our elected representatives and disrupting the democratic flow of information. They are not represented in either the Code Pink or the "Tea Party" crowds.
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by tmittelstaed August 12, 2009 6:26 PM EDT
The Internet changed everything. Back when I was in high school in the 80's, I think was the last gasp of conservatism and intolerance (which go hand-in-hand) among the young. Who can forget Alex from Family Ties? I remember it was kind of a fad among kids to be a fundie. Then later on Raygun lost his glamor and the Bush Sr. years didn't interest the kids much, and when Clinton came in he definitely sucked off the younger voters.

But I think the Republicon's persecution of Clinton was the turning point. Most young kids by that time were getting and giving BJ's as an alternate to full s e x, and while they knew Clinton was lying, they still understood the idea that what he did wasn't as bad as a full blown affair, and didn't deserve the response that it got. Of course, older people with more older moral values didn't see any difference, which is why Bush Jr. got in. But he got in just barely, and I'm sure it was because he lost the young vote entirely. And, after the last 8 years, I think that it's become a permanent loss.
by AttentionDeficit August 12, 2009 2:47 PM EDT
Ganja fills the generation gap.
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by SkirtLifter August 12, 2009 2:35 PM EDT
I blame those video games, you know, Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I have a 16 year old boy. thanx to those two games, he's interested in the music of my generation.
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by MEXpatriate August 12, 2009 1:34 PM EDT
Those of us in the 45-55 age range grew up with the best decade of modern music, the 70's. From rock, funk, soul, jazz, r & b...heck, even disco, we had a wide range of streams to choose from and having a diverse musical taste was mandatory.
Nowadays, the proliferation of genres, sub-genres, "idol" creation, manufactured bands, playback and crass commercialism have degraded the essence of music and placed business over substance. Sure, there are some new talented musicians and hope out there, whatever the style, but it sure isn't the same. Long live vinyl and 70's concerts. And don't knock it if you weren't there.
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by rematenaj August 12, 2009 2:03 PM EDT
Yea, the 70's were the BEST!!
by tmittelstaed August 12, 2009 4:39 PM EDT
The 70's? Are you nuts? For crying out loud, they played "stairway to heaven" to torture prisoners in Gitmo! Rock long ago lost whatever freshness it had. Hip Hop is where it's at, man.
by PatDaddy67 August 12, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
moral_crusader

How long does it take for the tubes in your radio to heat up? Lol!
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by WesternMassMom August 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT
I just took my 12 year old son to see Paul McCartney in concert. I explained to him that one of my earliest rock and roll memories as a child was when my young mother purchased a copy of the Sgt. Pepper album and how we listened to it together. It was really great to listen to the same music so many years later with MY child and then hear some of it played live. It started a great conversation between us about music and my mom and life in general!

Thank you Rock and Roll!!
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