August 11, 2009 10:40 PM

Scare Tactics Over "End-of-Life" Bill?

By
Sharyl Attkisson
(CBS)  At protests and town hall meetings around the country accusations are flying about so-called "end-of-life care" for seniors on Medicare, reports CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

It's spelled out in "Section 1233" of the House Bill.

"What it says is, as a 74-year old man, if you develop cancer, we're pretty much gonna write you off," claimed one woman at a town hall meeting.

"Nobody 74 is going to be written off because they have cancer," said Sen. Arlen Specter. "That's a vicious, malicious untrue rumor."

It's a "rumor" that spread like fire after a July 16 radio interview with former Lt. Governor of New York Betsy McCaughey, a Democrat.

"The Congress would make it mandatory, absolutely required like every five years, people in Medicare have a required counseling session, that will tell them how to end their life sooner," McCaughey said in the interview.

Not true, according to Brooks Jackson of the consumer advocate group FactCheck.org.

"What the House bill does... is make end-of-life counseling - things like living wills, advance directives - makes that a covered expense under Medicare," Jackson said.

Section 1233 primarily offers Medicare patients "Advance Care Planning Consultation" every five years - sooner if they take a turn for the worse. Counselors would be trained by the government "about the goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment," which are not specified in the bill.

Despite rumors, counseling would be voluntary, not forced. But health care professionals would be paid to provide it.

"There is something legitimately worth talking about here," Jackson said. "If you cover something under Medicare, you pay doctors to do it, they have a financial incentive to do it."

As for what advice patients would get from counselors, they'd hear about services like "hospice." They'd be encouraged to give "preferences" for "life sustaining treatment." That may include limiting "the intensity of medical intervention... if the patient is pulseless... or has serious cardiac or pulmonary problems."

Some worry susceptible seniors would be steered into ending their life to save money. One House committee addressed those fears by adding an amendment: It says the government will not pay organizations that "promote suicide, assisted suicide, or the act of hastening death."

If one study from Harvard is to be believed, the interests of all sides may actually dovetail. It found that cancer patients who had end-of-life counseling spent about $1,000 less in their final week of life, were more comfortable and lived just as long as those who chose more intensive care.

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  • Sharyl Attkisson

    Sharyl Attkisson is a CBS News investigative correspondent based in Washington. All of her stories, videos and blogs are available here.

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by edmundsingleton August 14, 2009 6:17 AM EDT
I for one would welcome recommendations for end of life planning so that my family do not have the burden of trying to comply with my known or unknown wishes...
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by vicky_agramonte August 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT
"PG 425: Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations for seniors and THE END-of-life prodding. THE END or is it just the beginning? Pg 425: Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!"
Dear "thereisnomainstreammedia" above is your quote... search your document, the word mandatory IS NOT USED ONCE IN THIS BILL!!!!!!!!!There needs to be more than 2 solutions to our problem (the perfect health reform bill or nothing at all). I am amazed at the gross misinterpretation of your review... shame on you.
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by ladypirate2 August 13, 2009 1:39 AM EDT
If you want proof that you can't believe a word that Obama tells you about this bill just go to Newsmax.com. Newsmax reported yesterday that the statement that Obama made Tuesday that said AARP had endorsed his health care legislation is not true!

At the town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., Obama said, "We have the AARP onboard because they know this is a good deal for our seniors." He added, "AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare."

But Tom Nelson, AARP's chief operating officer, said, "Indications that we have endorsed any of the major healthcare reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate."

Newsmax goes on to say that like Obama, AARP wants action this year to cover the uninsured and restrain healthcare costs, but the organization has refrained from endorsing legislation. Nelson said AARP would not endorse a bill that reduces Medicare benefits.

A spokesman said the Medicare cuts that have been proposed so far would not affect benefits.

PEOPLE OBAMA DIDN'T TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS! HE LIED! IT MAKES ME WONDER WHAT ELSE HE'S NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT! HE'S PUSHING THIS BILL THROUGH TOO FAST! HE'S TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING FROM US! PLEASE DON'T TRUST HIM PEOPLE!
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by btygrl2432 August 12, 2009 6:43 PM EDT
we simply cannot afford all of this. what is the government thinking? where do we live? we should be able to vote on what is going on. this is not a dictatorship.
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by ladypirate2 August 12, 2009 6:27 PM EDT
People please don't believe anything that Obama and the proponents of this bill are telling you! Obama is trying to rush this thing through too fast! He's trying to hide something and pull one over on the taxpayers!
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by mary-miami August 12, 2009 6:06 PM EDT
Scare tactics by the Republicans and lies. Everyone has a right to Healthcare. If you have medical insurance and you like your doctor, you keep him, but all the other thousands of people that have not had access to a doctor for years will finally have a chance to consult one if necessary. That which benefits one American citizen will benefit the entire American nation. That's what we should be looking out for...the good of our nation. Healthcare is a basic human right.
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by canubthatstupid August 12, 2009 4:12 PM EDT
His own Words: Where my reporters at?

Question: "Outside the medical criteria for prolonging the life of someone who is elderly, is there any consideration that can be given for a certain spirit, a certain joy of living, or quality of life; or is it just a medical cut off at a certain age?"
President Obama: "Yeah, we're not gonna solve every difficult problem in terms of end of life care. A lot of that is going to have to be we as a culture and a society making better decisions within our own families and for ourselves. But what we can do is make sure that at least some of the waste that exists in the system that is not making anybody's mom better that is loading up on additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not going to improve care, that at least we can let doctors know and your mom know that, you know what, maybe this isn't gonna help. Maybe you're better off not taking the surgery, but taking the painkiller."
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by Beyond-The-Spectrum August 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT
(*huddles in a corner, sucking his thumb, acting like an ideologically-dogmatic conservative*) "Ooooooh....here comes 'Socialism!--the big bad Boogey Man! Ooooo...I'm sooo scared!"

Grow up people...you sound like those types back in history who thought sailors would fall off the face of the flat earth if they sailed out on the ocean too far. We have to try something. Given that health care costs have priced insurance out of the reach of those who aren't blessed with lifestyles which afford them conservative thinking, the raw Free Market by itself surely isn't up to the task (not to mention that the inability to pay these expensive & growing costs is the no.1 cause of bankruptcies). We need to use what works, not what's ideologically secure to end this crisis (and here's a newflash...we're NOT going to end it by trying NOT to spend money)!

http://beyond-the-political-spectrum.blogspot.com/
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by rccmaize1 August 12, 2009 2:38 PM EDT
"Cybertribualism" -my word
an active example is happing now.

A word ?healthcare?
Of course there will be others pop up


I have spoke of "cybertribualism" -my word and this seems to prove that we have come to the level of "Cro-Magnon man" again as reason and the use of gray mater to stop, look, listen and reason to find solutions for direction for problem solving has reverted back to "grunting and clubs".

We now have groups of electronic tribes that float mindless in cyberspace leaching to
The emotional trash and garbage of the public relations and marketing gang of "if you have the price we will create professional lie's for you to prove what ever you desire" you provide the animal passion and meat eating hunger for the blood lust.

It always benefits those that want money , power, and control.

It seems we are still in the caves grunting and procreating like animals.

There is hope as always that the gray matter and calm can see the light of truth will over power the screaming and bloodlettings of those that can only see fear and are afraid to step out into the knowledge of light and the ever changing truth of living,

It is a walkabout we all take in this journey called life and it waits for no one
This is what ?freedom is all about? it is always your choice..

I all have to say watching the actions of what I would call the lost souls it the ugly anger and hate trying to hide fear screaming and if they had a gun killing
Some poor soul there looking for answers about their child dying or a senior there wondering if they should buy a pill or cat food to live.

The animal in man is truly ugly. thus the Christian have killed successful GOD, CREATOR, preacher book or books the believe will give them life ever after or what ever master they lay their self to call leader.

Breckfest food and cockroach's have a better chance at forever.


Of course this is just an observation of the great armadillo,
Barrow A. Dillo
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by smiley520 August 12, 2009 11:07 AM EDT
Those of you who are complaining the deficit is caused by the prior administrations war cost, need a realty check. When Obama took office, the deficit was slightly over one trillion dollars, more than half of which he flew back to Washington from the campaign trail to, according to the media, save the 800 billion dollar TARP bill which is more than half of the deficit he blames on Bush. Since his election he has added 3 or 4 trillion more to current and future deficits. This so called reform of health care will signifcantly increase the deficit. This president is not the solution, he is part of the problem. Just how much money do you think he voted for while a Senator! Wake up before it is too late.
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by hungry1968-16 August 12, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
What a bunch of lies!!

The national debt was $11 TRILLION when Obama took office, the TARP program was Bushes doing, and so far the spending of this administration is $1.8 TRILLION which includes the forgotten wars overseas, TARP, AND the Bush automaker bailouts!!

Get a grip on reality dude.
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