August 11, 2009 10:36 PM

In Mexico, Obama Predicts Health Care Win

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President Barack Obama predicted Monday that Congress would pass his sweeping health care overhaul this fall as more "sensible and reasoned arguments" prevail. But he said immigration changes, another politically explosive subject, would have to wait until next year.

At a North American summit in Mexico, the president also delivered an animated defense of U.S. efforts to help restore Honduran President Manuel Zelaya, who was ousted in a June 28 coup. He said critics of his policy in Honduras smacked of "hypocrisy," faulting the United States for being too heavy-handed in Latin America and yet telling him he has not intervened enough in this instance.

"The same critics who say that the United States has not intervened enough in Honduras are the same people who say that we're always intervening and the Yankees need to get out of Latin America," said Mr. Obama, CBS News' Anna Aulova reports.

Obama spoke at a news conference with Mexican President Felipe Calderon and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, where he confronted questions on both his foreign and domestic agendas, from drugs in Mexico to the testy health care fight at home.

The president never made direct mention of a matter roiling Washington - the outbursts and hot tempers that have disrupted town halls on health care around the country. Republicans are pointing to them as signs of public dissatisfaction with Obama's health care efforts, while Democrats have accused Republicans of trying to sabotage the democratic discussion.

Said Obama: "I suspect that once we get into the fall and people look at the actual legislation that's being proposed, that more sensible and reasoned arguments will emerge, and we're going to get this passed."

Asked about how opponants of his health care overhaul often use the Canadian health care system as a "political football," the president said, "Canadians will continue to get dragged in by those who oppose reform," CBS News' Brian Montopoli reports.

"I don't find Canadians particularly scary, but I guess some of the opponents of reform think that they make a good boogeyman," Obama said.

He also spelled out a more detailed timeline on immigration change. The president said he expected draft legislation for an immigration overhaul this year but the matter would not get priority attention until 2010.

"We have a broken immigration system. Nobody denies it," Obama said. But politically and legislatively, the matter stands behind health care, energy legislation and an overhaul of financial regulatory rules on Obama's first-term agenda.

"It's very important for us to sequence these big initiatives in a way where they don't all just crash at the same time," he said.

On Mexico's turf, Obama backed Calderon and his efforts to take on drug cartels during a spiraling war on drugs and guns. Washington is debating whether to withhold money to help fight the powerful cartels because of allegations that the Mexican military has been guilty of human rights abuses.

Obama said he had great confidence that under Calderon "human rights will be observed."

Calderon said the Mexican government has an "absolute and categorical" commitment to human rights.

Targeting the long and painful recession, Obama said that he and the other two leaders agreed to take "aggressive, coordinated action" to restore growth across North America.

Noting the huge trading partnership among the three neighbors, Obama said that commerce must be expanded, not restricted.

Obama said that a "Buy America" provision in the giant economic stimulus package earlier this year had not hurt trade with Canada. "I do think it's important to keep this in perspective," he said. "This in no way has endangered the billions of dollars in trade taking place between our two countries."

The president said that Harper raises the issue everytime the pair meet, evidence that the Canadian prime minister is expressing "his country's concerns," Montopoli reports.

Harper rallied behind Obama on Honduras. "If I were an American, I would be really fed up with this kind of hypocrisy," he said.

Obama said his administration has been clear in its view that Zelaya was forced out of his post illegally, and he said the U.S. is working with international bodies to send that message. "If these critics think that it's appropriate for us to suddenly act in ways that in every other context they consider inappropriate, then I think what that indicates is that maybe there's some hypocrisy involved in their approach to U.S.-Latin American relations," Obama said. He did not name any critics.

Started by George W. Bush in 2005 near his Texas ranch, the North American Leaders Summit has become an annual showcase on trade. Canada is the top U.S. trading partner, while Mexico is number three.

This year, as the U.S. economy struggles out of a crippling recession, the leaders met at the Institutos Cabanas, a 19th century home for poor children that's now a sprawling art museum with 23 arched courtyards filled with grapefruit and mango trees.

Streets around the complex were sealed off by heavily armed federal agents and police in riot gear.

The security stemmed in part from the drug wars that have raged in Mexico since Calderon deployed the army in an effort to crush the country's notorious cartels. Some 11,000 people have perished in the conflict.

In a separate meeting with Calderon, Obama voiced strong support of the offensive, but Calderon expressed concerns about delays in the latest installment of U.S. aid under the $1.4 billion Merida Initiative.

Calderon also pressed Obama on allowing Mexican trucks access to U.S. highways. Mexicans suggest the U.S. limits are less about safety - the stated reason - than protecting American hauling companies from competition under the NAFTA free trade accord.

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by ZEDY8K August 19, 2009 2:46 AM EDT
i have duel citizenship with Canada and the USA..

if you believe this health care plan will fix everything you are sadly mistaken..

i have health care in Canada and in the USA. you think the emergency room will not be crowded and you wont have to wait like you do now? WRONG

in BC Canada they have only 1 MRI machine for example.. you have to wait almost a year inline to use the machine..

in the USA under current health care we have an MRI machine in every small town .. you have to wait a few hours but you get the MRI the day you show up.. this is the big difference..

Canada with its single payer system cannot afford these machines so they only have a very few of them of all kinds of machines.. in the USA we have every machine you need right there in most semi big towns .. which is amazing.. so do not think oboma has put a lot of thought into his plan he hasn't..

we need health care reform but we need to take it slow work with both sides and not force abortions on religious hospitals ... there is a way to do this right but oboma thinks he cant be wrong in everything he does so .. we may just be screwed nicely.
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by monster98-2009 August 11, 2009 9:39 AM EDT
wow, what a bunch of ignants. i fear for this country.
I dont know what gets me more.... the fact cbs TOTALLY ignored Canada, except for the usual brushoff the prime minister bullcrap, or the fact they totally ignored the Mexican president ---except for the usall brushoff bullcrap.

Whwn Walter Cronkite died, cbs news already was. Gone are the days international news makes a profit, welcome Katie, who does not care.
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by imprisoncheney August 11, 2009 7:25 AM EDT
Looks like some of the weepublicans' fascist Storm Troopers who've been ordered to show up at townhall meetings to choke off debate and information on healthcare reform are posting their usual garbage-jibberish of lies on this site . . .

And, they don't even try to hide the fact that they employ the exact same tactics that Hitler's Nazis did back in the 1930s to put him in power -- using threats of violence and bullying intimidation to get their way . . . they're actually quite proud of themselves -- Sen. Mitch McConnell even brags about how the Fascist Corporate Aristocracy (which he represents -- not the citizens of KY) is "winning" the process . . . shutting it down, that is.

Americans are the dumbest suckers in the world to believe that the current dysfunctional private system that's in place (and not working, btw) is the "best" we can do.

The rest of the world is watching in horrified amusement at the obscene circus playing out around the issue. Other countries solved the problem long ago . . . greed has stood in the way of us doing the same.
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by ffoulkes-2009 August 11, 2009 8:27 AM EDT
No, what we have is not the best we can do, but it is a sight better than this monstrosity Obama wishes to force down our throats.
by drsuz August 11, 2009 1:08 AM EDT
Final note for the night..Everyone says how WONDERFUL a National Health Care would be for it is working so well in England, Well according to WHO (World Health Organization); In the United Kingdom life expectancy in the wealthiest areas is on average ten years longer than the poorest areas.

Also critics of the U.S. health care system frequently point to other countries as models for reform. They point out that many countries spend far less on health care than the United States yet seem to enjoy better health outcomes. However, a closer look shows that nearly all health care systems worldwide are wrestling with problems of rising costs and lack of access to care. Although no country with a national health care system is contemplating abandoning universal coverage, the broad and growing trend is to move away from centralized government control and to introduce more market-oriented features.

overall trends from national health care systems around the world suggest the following:

Health insurance does not mean universal access to health care. In practice, many countries promise universal coverage but ration care or have long waiting lists for treatment.
Rising health care costs are not a uniquely American phenomenon. Although other countries spend considerably less than the United States on health care, both as a percentage of GDP and per capita, costs are rising almost everywhere, leading to budget deficits, tax increases, and benefit reductions.
In countries weighted heavily toward government control, people are most likely to face waiting lists, rationing, restrictions on physician choice, and other obstacles to care.
Countries with more effective national health care systems are successful to the degree that they incorporate market mechanisms such as competition, cost sharing, market prices, and consumer choice, and eschew centralized government control.

The answer then to America?s health care problems lies not in heading down the road to national health care but in learning from the experiences of other countries, which demonstrate the failure of centralized command and control and the benefits of increasing consumer incentives and choice.
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by Brandywine33 August 11, 2009 12:06 AM EDT
It seems these days everything I'm reading and hearing about Obama just keeps getting worse. I'm totally convinced his agenda is to eliminate the elderly as his way of fixing the health crisis. I don't know if you have ever heard of a Pastor David Manning, but you may find his videos interesting and eye opening about Obama. Just do a search on David Manning's videos on Obama. Believe me, if this David Manning is right about him, Obama ain't the man you may want to think he is. Manning has videos on youtube about him.
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by jasonsanyoko August 10, 2009 11:50 PM EDT
I do my best volunteering work for accessibility and I am not for these ambiguous power grab bills. Are you not aware of unintended consequences? A bill this large needs to be properly vetted by the American public. I agree we need health care reform, but change for the sake of change is not always in your best interest. Republic or Democrat. Euthanasia? If you want to talk about eugenics study your history. Don't be a Fool! The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Take a look at our presidential advisor for starters: http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/08/in_his_own_words_john_holdrens.html
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by reveal5 August 10, 2009 11:21 PM EDT
Yo speakinup...You, apparently have yourself now so faked out and uninformed that you are now imagining that others will be faked out by yourself as well..... Looky there, you got some attention.
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by reveal5 August 10, 2009 11:09 PM EDT
Somehow my comments concerning folks who believe that the United States wants to imprison and euthanise them needing counseling goes thru the right wing spin cycle and comes out that these same right wing folks now believe I think that the disabled are euthanized...This could explain some things. Actually, I think that folks who believe the disabled are euthanized should get counseling. Or, people who infer such a thing.
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by cattiej August 10, 2009 10:24 PM EDT
There is no health care bill yet. Now is the time to go and talk to our stupid politicans while they are in their home states. Let them know how or why you are disatified. Here in Illinois, we have so many corrupt politicans, we have no one who truly cares about their citizens..they just want to get re-elected. I want the same healthcare that the politicans get. Some of these comments are great and some really stupid but then you have people like us who REALLY want to know why Medicare won't pay for something that will help keep you alive..think about that before writing something stupid on this Health Care issue. some of us are having a hard time getting treatment, and will die without it. Are you next?
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by reveal5 August 10, 2009 11:25 PM EDT
cattlej, hang in there, man. We're workin' on it. I appreciate and have compassion for your post. We've got a ways to go yet before healthcare reform comes up for a vote. Stay strong. Good luck.
by cattiej August 10, 2009 9:58 PM EDT
When you get back in OUR country Mr.Obama.I want you to tell me why Medicare won't pay for the 2 IVIG treatment's that my husband needs to stay alive. He has myasthenia gravis and is 79 years old. Is he being refused treatment because of his age? We have other insurance from here in Illinois where my husband worked for two universities but it won't pay unless Medicare pays. No wonder senior's are worried about being thrown under the bus because of their age. Until two years ago, my husband was only in the hosptial once in his life, to have Gall Bladder surgery. These IVIG's (gamma globulin) could be given in the home at much less cost than in the IV Treatment area of the hospital. He has been waiting for over 2 weeks for treatment because of insurance refusal, so he is one of the ones that is to die because he is a senior citizen? Meanwhile he is showing more signs of regressing and no word from his Doctor's office for the past week. Who we gonna call the next time, the funeral home?
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