HUNTINGDON VALLEY, Pa., July 10, 2009

Pool to Minority Kids: You Can't Swim Here

Suburban Club Accused of Racism For Rescinding Pool Privileges; State to Investigate Actions

  • A protest sign outside the Valley Club in Huntingdon Valley, Pa., Thursday, July 9, 2009, several days after the club shut its gates to a day camp of minority children from Philadelphia. The club denies racism was the reason it refunded Creative Steps' $1,950 check for the children to use the club's pool this summer.

    A protest sign outside the Valley Club in Huntingdon Valley, Pa., Thursday, July 9, 2009, several days after the club shut its gates to a day camp of minority children from Philadelphia. The club denies racism was the reason it refunded Creative Steps' $1,950 check for the children to use the club's pool this summer.  (CBS)

(CBS/AP)  A Philadelphia area day camp says a private swim club made racist comments about their campers and then cancelled their swimming privileges.

The swim club says they ran out of room.

Sixty-five mostly minority children from Philadelphia's Creative Steps day camp spent June 29 cooling off at the private Valley Club in Huntingdon Valley, Pa. It's where they were planning to swim every Monday through mid-August.

But the first time they showed up, 11-year-old Marcus Allen says, it was obvious he and the other campers - children in kindergarten through seventh grade - weren't welcomed by some club members.

"They were saying, like, they didn't want us here, and they were saying that they were afraid we might do something to their children and trash some of their belongings. And they were also saying, like, 'Oh, we don't want these people here and how did they even get here?'"

In fact, Creative Steps had paid the club $1,950 for use of the pool facilities.

Creative Steps camp director (and Marcus' mother) Althea Wright said she was alerted about half an hour into their session. "The children came running down the hill saying, 'Miss Wright, Miss Wright, there are people making remarks saying they don't want those black kids and what are we doing here?'" Wright told CBS "Early Show" anchor Maggie Rodriguez. " I said, 'Who is saying this?' And they pointed towards the top of the hill.

"So I went up to the top, and I started addressing some of the derogatory comments that were made, and [club president John] Duesler was sitting there as well, and he said, 'Althea, Althea, don't worry about it. I'll handle it. I'll handle it.'"

Some club members removed their children from the pool and stood around with their arms folded, according to Wright, who said, "Only three members left their children in the pool with us."

Two days later, Wright received a call from the club's board president saying that the board had changed its mind about allowing the kids to be visit the club.

CBS News correspondent Bianca Solorzano reports that the camp's nearly two-thousand dollar check was refunded.

"He gave me no reason at all" for the decision, Wright said. But, she added, while they were at the club some of the club members were shouting that "they were going to make sure that we did not return there at all."

Dr. Duesler, the Valley Club president, told Philadelphia TV station WTXF that several club members complained because the children "fundamentally changed the atmosphere" at the pool but that the complaints didn't involve race.

"Unfortunately . . . we underestimated the capacity of our facilities and realized that we could not accommodate the number of children from these camps," Valley Club said in a released statement.

Wright, however, does not accept the reason, and says e-mail exchanges prove the club knew exactly how many children were coming.

This incident is making waves throughout the nation's swimming community.

Cullen Jones, an African American gold medal swimmer heads up Make a Splash, which trains young minority swimmers.

"This is a major setback to see that people are still in the old ways, if you will," Jones said.

On Thursday the pool was closed, its front gate locked. About two dozen protesters, most of them white, held signs and chanted slogans including, "Jim Crow swims here!"

Amy Goldman is a club member and joined because she thought it was so welcoming.

"I'm embarrassed and ashamed that a pool would do this to a group of young kids who were very respectful and well behaved," she told CBS News.

Marcus said the experience gave him very mixed feelings: "I was mad, I was angry, I was upset."

When Rodriguez asked Marcus what he hoped people would learn from their experience, he said, "I hope the lesson will be to teach people that everybody is like the same and that you shouldn't treat people differently just because [of] a difference between you and them. Like you have a different color skin or you look different, that doesn't mean that you're different from them. And that you shouldn't make fun of them."

Wright said Girard College, a boarding school for poor children in first through 12th grades, has offered to host the camp children for the summer.

On Thursday the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission said it will immediately open an investigation into the accusations of racial discrimination at the Valley Club.

"The rule of law in Pennsylvania is equal opportunity for all, regardless of race," chairman Stephen A. Glassman said Thursday in a written statement.

"Allegedly, this group was denied the use of a pool based on their race," Glassman said. "If the allegations prove to be true, this is illegal discrimination in Pennsylvania."

Wright said that some parents are "weighing their options" on legal action.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People requested the Human Relations Commission's investigation.

Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., issued a statement calling the allegations "extremely disturbing" and said he was looking into the matter.

Chuck Wielgus, executive director of USA Swimming, the governing body for the U.S. swim team, was stunned at the accusations.

"This is the sort of thing you'd hear about in 1966, during the height of the civil rights movement, not in 2009, and not in the City of Brotherly Love, of all places," he said.

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by TheMasses0009 July 14, 2009 10:29 AM EDT
Since it's a private pool, they should be allowed to let whoever they want in and change their mind at any time. They refunded the money - end of story.
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by hamiltongrad July 11, 2009 12:38 PM EDT
The pool should be closed down. What a disgrace.
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by sarahtolkien July 11, 2009 5:38 AM EDT
This was a situation of the rich discriminating against the poor NOT race. I have taught for the last 3 years at an inner city school and we saw this time and time again on field trips. We'd get looks like "are those kids going to behave?" Guess what? Some of them didn't. Were they all black? No. Lets do an experiment. Take a group of mostly white poor kids from a trailer park with torn up stained t-shirts and dirty faces and put them in the same pool. You're going to get the same remarks and the same complaints. One of my white girls last year had lice at least 5 times and came in with the same clothes several times a week with dirty hair. I NEVER saw that with any of my black kids and practically every one of the children at this school was part of the same socio-economic status. We are a classicist society whether or not we want to admit it. Most of us naturally have a bias against people who are poorer than us. Is it right? No. Would I want to go have dinner at the home of my student who had lice 5 times last year? Probably not. Sometimes our biases protect us and sometimes they separate us from good experiences and richer lives.
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by shadys-mom July 10, 2009 8:45 PM EDT
I agree with "Poetic Adaption". It may not be the best sort of person to be a snob, but this is America, the land of the free - or until Obama destroys that too! It's a private club and they didn't want a bunch of kids there - doesn't matter what colors they are. It may not be very hospitable of them, but they gave the money back. I think everyone is so very TIRED of "the race card". It only makes the matter worse and is used for absolutely every situation. GET A LIFE PEOPLE!!!!!!! Just because you are black or white or green or red or tan or purple - It's a free country and everyone doesn't have to like you! I grew up and live in the southwest and I don't like Mexicans (with good cause) - so sue me!!!!!
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by Hovi1768 July 10, 2009 7:23 PM EDT
There are times when the race card is played by politicians,
the media for ratings & gains.
This clearly is not one of those cases.
This is as blatant as it gets.

I would bet my house that the situation went down like this.
Someone, or several someone's with some clout @ the club went to management & power-played them with threats of rescinding memberships.
Told them basically, get rid of the undesireables or else.
The club quickly looked at the money vs principles thing, & we know which side won.

It's like the Mos-Def track Mathematics

"This is business, no faces just lines and statistics
from your phone, your zip code, to S-S-I digits
The system break man child and women into figures
Two columns for who is, and who ain't ******."
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by stopmakinexcuses July 10, 2009 7:21 PM EDT
i am noncaucasian ,& i am sick of ignorant and benighled people who think is acceptable to to call white people "white trash" but god forbid if anyone calls black people a name. stop be hypocrites!!!!!!!
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by toldyouso29 July 10, 2009 5:56 PM EDT
Well, one thing is for certain, with the publicity and locked doors and the picketing and the national notoriety--NO ONE of any race will be swimming or enjoying the atmosphere now.....
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by Thalia-9 July 10, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
absolutely pathetic and absurd...the people who pulled their kids from the pool should be refunded their dues and kicked out of the club, the president of the club should be replaced, and if it were myself holding membership there, I'd pull it and go elsewhere - sick, sad and wrong...reminds me of Rosa Parks - those poor children...hopefully they'll rebound with the understanding someday that this select group of people are nothing but the empitome of scum - right now it's a group of children who are incredibly wounded -if any of you club 'members' responsible for the action are reading this, go F yourself...and don't forget about kharma cause it's headed your way like a firestorm.
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by rwassel July 10, 2009 5:36 PM EDT
"Education is not solely the responsibility of the educator."

Oh well then I would assume, since all education is equal, and that the responsbility lies with the student, you would have NO PROBLEM sending your bright, articulate child to an inner-city school with a crumbling infra-structure and underpiad teachers, right?

Now who's shooting themself in the foot.
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by kennergirl July 10, 2009 5:33 PM EDT
While it's unfortunate that the head of the Valley Club took such drastic measures apparently his choices were poor from the onset. If it is a "private club" he could have turned down their money from the start when the call first came in. But he didn't and once he saw the attitudes of the other members of the club he again made another poor choice to follow up his first one, by asking the campers to leave. I don't believe anyone should be forced to be around a person or persons they don't want to be around. Granted, it sounds as if some (ok lots) of the club members are crude people to make statements to a bunch of kids like that but some people live hardfast to the rule that they don't want to be around someone different than themselves (trust me I've worked for people like that). Now you have a bunch of kids with hurt feelings, a camp director that is angry and a private club with a lot of explaining to do.
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by TyroneHoglegg July 10, 2009 5:08 PM EDT
Poor kids....didn't even get a chance to prove they were good kids just excited to get to swim at a pool every Monday...

Oh and you 2 twenty something "upper class" white males...****...you know nothing. I, as well as many people are tired of hearing your blathering "Oh I know poor black kids"...."I have no racist bone in my body"..."Stop the racism"....
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by toldyouso29 July 10, 2009 4:50 PM EDT
What you gave as "answers" is actually your own personal opinion and as such can only apply to you--when you attempt to answer for, or speak for an entire group, have the decency to wait until they elect you the definitive spokesperson and critic for them all--until then, speak for yourself and recognize that your 'answer' is not the only salient, plausible or pertinent one--otherwise you are a pompous know it all who presumes you have all the answers to all the ills in the world and to say blacks are on welfare due to racism--is not an answer, it is a cop out and one that will quickly get you and the people you claim to represent and speak for, rendered--irrelevant, and self made victims.
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by carlyt1 July 10, 2009 4:43 PM EDT
Unfortunately racism is alive in and well in America. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588
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by rwassel July 10, 2009 4:36 PM EDT
"it's time to jump off the racism bus, folks. i am a 21 year old upper-middle class white male from western pa and i can honestly say i don't think about race"

Well - that pretty much sums it up right there, chief. You don't HAVE to think about race, because you are white and upper-middle class. Try telling that to the 21 year old poor black kid who didn't get equal access to education because they were born in a poor neighborhood to poor parents who didn't have access to equal education, and THEIR parents weren't allowed to vote in legislators to look after their own interests, and were instead sprayed with fire hoses and had crosses burned in their yards.

I'm a 28 year-old upper middle class male, but I'm sure as heyl not so naive and history-ignorant as to think poverty and race aren't related and inextricably linked to each other. 40 years of "equal rights" doesn't make up for 200 years of slavery and oppression.
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by Uncle_Eccoli July 10, 2009 5:26 PM EDT
Laying blame is far easier than taking personal responsibility. Life isn't fair for any of us. Education is not solely the responsibility of the educator. Sitting around complaining and feeling sorry for yourself (or others) will never make things better. But I needn't tell you, I'm sure you spend every free hour tutoring underprivileged youth, right?
by rwassel July 10, 2009 5:29 PM EDT
And I probably can assume that you are white, huh?
by rwassel July 10, 2009 5:31 PM EDT
So you're saying the baby born in a crack-house to a single 14 year-old mother has just as equal access to good education and job opportunities as a baby born to a weathly suburban couple?

You sir, are as naive as they get...
by rwassel July 10, 2009 5:36 PM EDT
"Education is not solely the responsibility of the educator."

Oh well then I would assume, since all education is equal, and that the responsbility lies with the student, you would have NO PROBLEM sending your bright, articulate child to an inner-city school with a crumbling infra-structure and underpiad teachers, right?

Now who's shooting themself in the foot.
by koyt2 July 10, 2009 4:35 PM EDT
This may be a case of a private pool and the member not wanting to have all those kids disturb the privacy they paid for. Same thing happened to me at a private pool. Inner city kids came in and just took over the pool when my wife and I were the only ones there. We just packed up and went home. God knows, we could care less whether they were black or white. Being a Native American, I am tan, and color makes no difference to me. However, I do want my privacy.
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by toldyouso29 July 10, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
So... before leaving, did you demand to know why all those black kids were there (or whatever color they were) and did you tell those kids and others that you would make sure they never came back? Did the private pool refund the money of the visiting hordes and tell them not to come back? if so, were you at the pool in question? Therein lies many differences. The proof is always in the TASTING of the pudding--this one tastes like racism and stupidity.
by mattlash3 July 10, 2009 4:34 PM EDT
Wait a minute is this happening in Philadelphia, PA ?????? I would have thought it was in Alabam or Mississippi. Guess you Yankee elitist Private Club folks think you can do what ever you want with out any regard for the law of the land. I hope the parents of these kids sue you for every racist penny you have.
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by Oregon_State_OSU July 10, 2009 4:28 PM EDT
After watching the video, That POOL looks pretty Frackin BIG. I was on Swim Team in Junoir High & High School and our pool was not that big. This is nothing but a bunch of STUCK UP HOIDI TOIDI White Trash WHITE people being selfish and racist and keeping black kids out of their Hoidi Toidi > Valley Club in Huntingdon Valley.

They had this all Pre Paid for the summer, 65 kids at about $30.70 to swim all summer one day a week until September. I am White and these Backwards thinking Stupid White people at the Valley Club GROW THE HELL UP its 2009 and this was completely Racist.
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by pw08-2009 July 10, 2009 4:22 PM EDT
Racism exists for ALL races and happens equally around the country and world. You won't move forward if you can't overcome the barriers. If you want to wallow in it, as many black americans have, then you will always be behind everyone else.
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by rwassel July 10, 2009 4:55 PM EDT
You think racism happens "equally", do you? You think many black americans "wallow in it", huh? Well I have a question: since when does 40 years of "equal" rights make up for 200 years of slavery, oppression, unequal access to education and jobs, and not being able to vote?
by Uncle_Eccoli July 10, 2009 5:17 PM EDT
@rwassel
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...
Your comment demonstrates very clearly that you are not moving forward in good faith. Please, enlighten us - just what WOULD "make up for 200 years of slavery, oppression, unequal access to education and jobs, and not being able to vote?" Anything? And while you're at it, why not explain why YOU'RE entitled to it? Are you 200 years old? This is precisely what pw08-2009 is talking about.
by rwassel July 10, 2009 5:28 PM EDT
Uncle_Eccoli:

Actually, there are some things that CAN and DO make up for those 200 years...ever hear of affirmative action? And my point is that it is idiotic to think "Hey, sorry about all those years of slavery and oppression, but let's just start over from scratch, okay?" and to claim that now everyone has an equal chance of succeeding, when 200 years of institutionalized racism cannot make that possible. But people such as yourself would rather just forget all those terrible things that took placem, and think that none of them have any effect on the present.

If we ignore history, we are doomed to repeat it.
by toldyouso29 July 10, 2009 5:38 PM EDT
Slavery by Europeans began in the Americas in the 1500s, for African Americans, in the mid 1600s.

More importantly, "wallowing or not" when racism is institutionalized, then any effort by blacks to escape the 'wallow' will be limited or controlled by whites. This means a black who wants to get off their butt and get an education may find the education options limited (as was the case prior to the CR movement) or out of reach financially. After getting a degree, the same black may find no one will hire him or her regardless of degree or skills--that same black with no job is no different than the black on welfare--both will be in poverty...if residential options are limited--that educated black will live in the ghetto, be subject to the same treatment as other blacks, will be stopped and questioned and treated by cops the same way--etc--it is disingenuous to speak of blacks or any other racial group "wallowing" in their circumstance when others do not face their circumstances and the "circumstances" are such that they are sanctioned and fostered by the society. That is like touting a man who learns to fish eating for a life time--but denying access to the pond, the fishing rod or anything else but worms to the man and claiming it is his fault he can catch no fish.
by Uncle_Eccoli July 10, 2009 5:54 PM EDT
Looks like we're going in circles again here, but...
One form of discrimination cannot alleviate another. "Affirmative action" is merely institutionalised racism in the other direction.
Yes, to truly move forward and make any progress EVERYBODY, black and white and in between, will have to let the past be the past and not let it define the future.
by toldyouso29 July 10, 2009 6:36 PM EDT
I agree, but I am also cognizant that racism flourishes most when the economy is down and opportunities and jobs are limited. Affirmative Action does not apply to any private business UNLESS they accept any money from the government or gov contracts. The reason is, gov funds are made up of tax payer money which means ALL money from all people and people should not have to subsidize or help to benefit an org that discriminates. That being said--the reason that AA exists is that the gov found out that on their own companies would not give minorities (and often women ) a chance no matter what their skills were and something had to be done to ensure access IF a company was making money off the public--so here is the actual rule of AA:

Of 100 jobs, 5 must be set aside and to be provided for blacks and other minorities (including Indian and Asian) and for women, and the disabled and now, the elderly. The other 95 can go to white males--no problem.

The result was a backlash. Companies, angry at being told to let those groups share 5 jobs began to hire the worst candidates possible and to parade them around as AA not working--because here is the other thing about those 5 jobs:

The jobs can only go to a "competent" minority, woman, handicapped or elderly person and a company must exercise due diligence and good faith and PROVE they sought out those groups before giving those 5 jobs away to those groups.

if you think there are public companies where no blacks work--that is untrue--I have worked for several of them. Know why they get away with no blacks? Because no blacks either apply or meet the standards set by the gov to work in my field and so cannot get the jobs. The jobs require certain degrees and years of experience, also, few women are in the mgmt positions in my companies because they too, fail to meet the criteria.

So--is that discrimination? YES--it still is--discrimination is singling anyone out for special treatment (good or bad) based on race, creed, skin color, religion, etc--it is the same thing we do when we allow phones to give directions in Spanish but don't allow for them to give directions in Swedish, Swahili, Chinese, Dutch, German, etc

Some discrimination will exist because we have not found a way to integrate willingly. The real question is--when 95 white males are hired to a company and 5 jobs are withheld for women of any color and for minorities--is that unfair? If so, what is the remedy? In instances where AA has been curtailed, it was found that on their own, companies do not trend toward diversity, which means regardless of education or trying to become better citizens, some groups are deliberately hamstrung and left out of the loop.


When you come up with a better suggestion--let the gov know--just remember--that if you favor solutions which benefit YOU as a majority--those same benefits will disappear when other groups become a minority--can you honestly say you would want to be treated and perceived in the same way blacks are? CAn you honestly say if faced with the same obstacles and prejudices their lot would not eventually be YOUR lot?

Points to think on....
by violist47 July 10, 2009 4:07 PM EDT
I'm amazed that the pool people claimed to have "underestimated" the pool's capacity. Surely they mean the "overestimated" it. If they had underestimated it, why then they would have been surprised at how much room there was. There would have been no problem, would there? There would have been plenty of room for 65 children, whatever their race.
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by gunownerdan July 10, 2009 3:10 PM EDT
What a stupid situation that was easily avoidable!
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