Obama Faces Difficulty in G8 Climate Talks

Although G8 Agreed on Temperature Rise Limit, There Were No Nearteam Commitments to Make That Happen

(AP)  President Barack Obama and his G-8 summit partners wrestled anew with global warming amid tense discussions Thursday about how rich and emerging nations alike can live up to new clean-climate goals adopted by leading industrialized nations.

Nearing six months on the job, Obama has seen a flicker of progress: the chance for a new agreement among developed and developing nations to cap rising global temperatures, plus goodwill from his peers for repositioning the U.S. as an aggressive player in the debate.

Yet when Obama thrusts himself foursquare into this discussion, he will run smack into the same old problem: Neither the wealthy nor the countries in search of their own footing think the other side is doing enough. And only when the pollution emitters work together on a binding plan will a climate strategy work, experts say.

Even victory came with a setback on Wednesday. The Group of Eight set a goal of cutting all greenhouse gas emissions in half by 2050, but developing nations refused to go along.

Confronting global warming - a trend scientists say could unleash devastating droughts, floods and disease if left unchecked is a dominant theme again at this year's G-8 summit of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United States.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon said Thursday the G-8 countries must come forward with financing for poorer nations to change their carbon-heavy growth patterns and adapt to the effects of global warming. He said the G-8 must do both if developing countries are to cut their own emissions.

The G-8 on Wednesday recognized for the first time that average global temperatures shouldn't exceed 2 degrees Celsius from preindustrial times. But the leaders made no commitments to do anything in the nearterm to reach that goal and they made no firm financial or technological commitments for poor countries.

In another development, a draft declaration obtained by The Associated Press shows that leaders assembled here want to resume stalled trade talks by 2010 and head off protectionist policies - a position that Obama has embraced. Completing the so-called Doha round has risen up the agenda due to fears that the economic crisis will lead to an upsurge in protectionist policies like the ones that helped cause the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Obama was taking part in discussions all day on climate and a host of economic issues, and the number of countries represented at the table will just keep growing.

First, the traditional industrialized powers will expand their forum to other strategic economies: Brazil, China, India, Mexico and South Africa, plus a special invitee, Egypt.

And Obama later will help lead a forum of major economies that also includes Australia, Indonesia and South Korea. Together, including the U.S., the represented countries account for about 80 percent of the emissions of the heat-trapping gases blamed for global warming.

The results this week will be a pivotal marker of what could happen in talks in December in Copenhagen, when the United Nations tries to conclude a new worldwide climate deal.

"This will also be an opportunity for the president and the other leaders to discuss what they can do collectively to add political momentum to the negotiations," Mike Froman, a national security aide leading the administration's G-8 efforts, said ahead of Thursday's events.

The two blocs - the richest countries and the fastest growing ones - did strike an important agreement Wednesday. Their unified position now is that global temperature should be kept from rising by more than 3.6 degrees (2 degrees Celsius).

That's the point at which the Earth's climate system would fall into perilous instability, according to the United Nations' chief panel on climate change.

The U.S. and the other G-8 nations set a new goal of reducing their greenhouse gas emissions by 80 percent or more by 2050, part of their global goal of a 50 percent cut.

More steps by developed and developing countries will be announced Thursday, Froman said.

But the emerging countries are refusing to commit to specific reduction targets.

They are upset that the industrialized G-8 has not been forthcoming on either midterm emissions reductions - well before 2050 - or pledges of financing and transferring technology to the developing world. And they worry that major reductions could hamper their economies.

"Support from the G-8 is only the first step in what is likely to be a long and difficult process," said Guy Caruso, a senior adviser for the energy and national security program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a think tank in Washington.

"The Major Economies Forum recognizes this reality," he said. "The bottom line is that the industrialized countries will need to provide the incentives to the emerging economies."

Obama began his agenda Thursday by meeting with Brazil's president, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, to discuss climate change, Iran and other issues.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs acknowledged that Silva gave no ground on the greenhouse gas-reduction question. He said, however, that Obama believes there is "still time in which they can close the gap on that disagreement" before the December meeting in Copenhagen.

Gibbs said Obama also urged Silva to use his influence to try to move Iran away from obtaining a nuclear weapons capability. He said Obama noted Brazil's close trading ties with Iran and told Silva that the relationship between Brazil and Iran offers a unique opportunity to reiterate the G-8's stance on Iran.

The leaders meeting in Italy have said Iran must not seek to create nuclear weapons and must loosen restrictions on its news media.

Obama and Silva met for 30 minutes before joining other world leaders at the three-day summit. Iran was not invited to the summit.

The Silva meeting was a late add. It came during the slot when Obama was to have met with Chinese President Hu Jintao, who returned home to deal with an outbreak of ethnic violence.

Hu's departure is seen by analysts as weakening the chances that the U.S. and other G-8 countries can advance climate talks at this summit with China and a few of its close peers.

[juwboy]

Which of the following two extreme climate situations causes more deaths?

(A) a hot summer
(B) a cold winter

The answer is (B) by a huge margin.

So, why aren`t we doing everything we can to promote and accelerate global warming until the numbers for hot and cold weather deaths are comparable?

That`s when our planet will have its ideal, optimum temperature.

At the present time, it`s too cold.

[payasyougo]

"Obama Faces Difficulty in G8 Climate Talks"
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And that is because Europe does nothing BUT talk. They talk about how the U.S. should do something.

[beaumuff]

Stay over there Obungler, it saves us money when you and the little family fly around on vations. The longer he stays away from congress the bettrer off we are.

[betty_d1]

These "do gooders" aka politicians need to read "After the Ice" by Steven Mithen. No one can limit how warm the Earth becomes--these guys are not that powerful--unbeknownst to themselves!!--The problem is one of learning to ADAPT & PREPARE for the increase in temps!!!.

[novamba]

Gotta love this, the president of a country with 4% of the world population, 25% of the pollution, and 20% of the world's wealth wants the poor nations to cut their emissions, while asking brazil, a third world country to use its influence on Iran to help the same 8 nations that condemn every move that country makes, relax. Maybe Brazil should ask for visa waivers from the first world in return, along with preferential trade tariffs the chinese get...loving this, is this Hillary's experience at work? or is she dodging snipers as she cork screws into an airport in Arkansas...I mean New York.

[noloyalisti]

Yes, the arrogance of we Americans is almost beyond belief. Of course this is the same country that has George Bushoccio twice and appears happy bombing 4 countries on behalf of their big corporations.

[noloyalisti]

Well yeah Obama has problems with the G8. America, the land of waste and consumption is run from top to bottom by big corporations who only care about one thing: profits.

The jig is up on these enemies of the people. We can no longer afford to have these rich corporations run our health care, banks and oil industries without significant controls. Yes the jig is up on these greedy, unfeeling corporate run G8 countries.

[beaumuff]

One good thing, his celebrity staus is dropping like a rock. Lets hope we can stand another 3-1/2 years. 2010 is around the corner. Get rid of President Queen Pelosi and King Reid now before its to late.

[Joe_NY_15]

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 30% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-eight percent (38%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -8. The President's Approval Index rating has fallen six points.

[andylance1]

At least China got out of the G-8 summit before agreeing to anything. Just proves that they are smarter than we are. China does not have a screwball congress passing energy taxes.

America's biggest contribution to the global warming crusade is the same man who invented the internet. He is the most polarizing person in America since the racist governor, George Wallace, who ran for president in 1968.

[lost_america]

Whatever jobs are left here at home will now be shifted to the 3rd world where no one cares about home much pollution they dump in the air.
I guess Obama can tax the goods once they get here, but then again, who will buy them? (since all the jobs are gone)

[whitemale08]

Obama is having trouble selling is Global Warmer garbage because nobody's buying it anymore.

How are you going to tell the very countries you've looted for years that you are now restricted from developing because we're broke and we were stupid enough to bail out absolutely worthless bankrupt banks and criminals like Goldman Sucks and JP Morgan?

[novamba]

Fantastic comment.

[speakinup22]

Now watch Barry decide to pay for it ALL, and claim he can save enough money to do it by reducing gasoline prices and using your money to do this fool's errand instead.

Yup Obamanation is well on its way !

How's that "hope and change" working out for ya'll ?


Michelle, are you still proud of America ?


Rest of the public, Will America still exist in 3 and a half years ?


Call your congressman, tell him or her that Barry's spending must stop !

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml