Girl Lone Survivor of Yemeni Jet Crash?

Faults Reported in Plane that Crashed with 153 Aboard off Comoros Islands; 14-year-old Rescued

(CBS/AP)  A Yemeni jetliner carrying 153 people crashed in the Indian Ocean as it came in for a landing during howling winds on the island nation of Comoros. Yemeni officials said a teenage girl survived.

The crash came two years after aviation officials reported faults with the plane, an Airbus 310 flying the last leg of a journey from Paris and Marseille to Comoros, with a stop in Yemen to change planes. Most of the passengers were from Comoros, a former French colony. Sixty-six on board were French nationals.

Khaled el-Kaei, the head of Yemenia airline's public relations office, said a 14-year-old girl survived the crash. And Yemen's embassy in Washington issued a statement saying a young girl survived and was taken to a hospital. It also said five bodies were recovered.

There were earlier reports that a 5-year-old boy survived. El-Kaei said that was not known and the airline had lost contact with its office in Comoros because of bad weather.

Yemeni civil aviation deputy chief Mohammed Abdul Qader said the flight data recorder had not been found and it was too early to speculate on the cause of the crash. But he said the wind was 40 miles per hour (61 kph) as the plane was landing in the middle of the night.

"The weather was very bad," he said, adding the windy conditions hampered rescue efforts.

The Yemenia plane was the second Airbus to crash into the sea this month. An Air France Airbus A330-200 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on June 1, killing all 228 people on board, as it flew from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.

The Comoros is an archipelago of three main islands situated 1,800 miles (2,900 kilometers) south of Yemen, between Africa's southeastern coast and the island of Madagascar. It is a former French colony of 700,000 people.

In France, school vacations began this week and many on the plane were heading home to visit.

CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Palmer reports that the jet went down in deep water about nine miles short of the East African coast.

Gen. Bruno de Bourdoncle de Saint-Salvy, the senior commander for French forces in the southern Indian Ocean, said the Airbus 310 crashed 21 miles from the Moroni airport.

French aviation inspectors found a "number of faults" during a 2007 inspection of the plane that went down, French Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau said on i-Tele television Tuesday.

In Brussels, EU Transport Commissioner Antonio Tajani said the airline had previously met EU safety checks and was not on the bloc's blacklist. But he said a full investigation was now being started amid questions why passengers were put on another jet in the Yemeni capital of San'a.

An Airbus statement said the plane that crashed went into service 19 years ago, in 1990, and had accumulated 51,900 flight hours. It has been operated by Yemenia since 1999. Airbus said it was sending a team of specialists to the Comoros.

The A310-300 is a twin-engine widebody jet that can seat up to 220 passengers. There are 214 A310s in service worldwide with 41 operators.

A crisis center was set up at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris. Many passengers were from the French city of Marseille, home to around 80,000 immigrant Comorans, more even than Comoros' capital of Moroni.

Some French Comorans insisted that their earlier warnings about the airline's safety weren't heeded by authorities.

Stephane Salord, the Comoros' honorary consul in Marseille, called Yemenia's aircraft "flying cattle trucks."

"This A310 is a plane that has posed problems for a long time, it is absolutely inadmissible that this airline Yemenia played with the lives of its passengers this way," he said.

"Some people stand the whole way to Moroni," said Mohamed Ali, a Comoran who went to Yemenia's headquarters in Paris to try to get more information.

Thoue Djoumbe, a 28-year-old woman who lives in the French town of Fontainebleau, said she and others had complained about the airline for years.

"It's a lottery when you travel to Comoros," said Djoumbe. "We've organized boycotts, we've told the Comoran community not to fly on Yemenia airways because they make a lot of money off of us and meanwhile the conditions on the planes are disastrous."

Christophe Prazuck, French military spokesman, said a patrol boat and reconnaissance ship were being sent to the crash site as well a military transport plane. The French were sending divers as well as medical personnel, he said.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy "expressed his deep emotion" about the crash and asked the French military to help in the rescue operation, particularly from the French islands of Mayotte and Reunion.

Yemenia airline officials say the 11-member crew was made up of six Yemenis, including the pilot, two Moroccans, one Indonesian, one Ethiopian and 1 Filipino. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

[hoosang]

AIRBUS DANGEROUS???????????????????
http://www.newsyemen.net
Lufthanza plane reportedly catches fire after emergency landing
05/07/2009
Yemeni families gathered at the Sana?a Airport Friday night over news that a Lufthanza plane caught fire due to emergency landing at Frankfurt International Airport few minutes after taking off from the same airport.

The incident resulted in the flight delay from 09:00 pm on Friday until 01:00 am on Saturday (local time), said sources at the Sana?a Airport.

A Lufthanza plane, A330, which was en route to Addis Ababa and Sana?a, had to abruptly land again due to a technical fault, some passengers who arrived on board another plane told NewsYemen.

The front tries of the plane exploded and the plane started sliding on the ground and then a small fire caught the plane, but firemen could put it out, said a passenger.

Frequent Airbus incidents raise more questions on the level of safety of the Airbus planes as four similar emergency landing incidents occurred last month in Russia and Australia and one Air France crashed on June 1 with 228 on board and finally the Yemenia airliner A310 crash on June 30.

[hoosang]

YEMENIA AIRBUS- DEAD BODIES? WRECKAGE? ITS 9 DAYS?
RESCUE TEAMS WHAT ARE YOU DOING ? HAVING A PICNIC?

TELL COMORONS TO WAKE UP ITS 9 DAYS AND ASK THE FRENCH AUTHORITIES WHY HAVE THEY DENIED ACCESS TO RESCUE TEAMS TO GO NEAR THE SITE WHERE AIRCRAFT CRASHED? INSTEAD OF TARNISHING THE IMAGE OF YEMENIA AIRWAYS AND CRYING OVER SPILT MILK TELL THEM TO GO AND PROTEST IN FRONT OF PRESIDENT SARKOZY AND ASK HIM WHAT WAS THE FRENCH MILITARY SHIP DOING AT THE TIME YEMENIA AIRCRAFT WAS DUE/COMING TO LAND? AND WHY DEAD BODIES OR EVEN A SMALL PIECE OF AIRCRAFT IS NOT FOUND?
WHEN AIR FRANCE WHICH CRASHED IN ATLANTIC STARTED RECOVERING BODIES THE SECOND DAY?
AND WHERE IS THE SO CALLED DEBRI OF BAHIA ON WHICH SHE SURVIVED. TELL THE MEDIA TO SHOW US IF IT WAS A PART OF YEMENIA AIRCRAFT OR SHE WAS IT ON TOP OF A SHARK?
DEBRI OR SHARK SAVED HER?

{"The black box's signal was located yesterday (Tuesday) at 4:30 pm local time (1230 GMT) by an aerial patrol, 40 kilometres (25 miles) from Grande Comore," said Cooperation Minister Alain Joyandet, quoted by a spokeswoman. A French patrol ship, the Rieuse, was to arrive on site later Wednesday to start operations to recover the flight recorder, he added.
this words are from news}
I WANT TO ASK THEM ARE THEY LISTENING TO MUSIC WHICH IS SO CALLED BLACK BOX SIGNAL, IF IT IS LOCATED WHAT ARE THEY DOING?
NOW COMORONS ARE WANTING THEIR DEAD BODIES THEY SAID, FORGET BLACK BOX, WHY FRENCH/EU NOT FULLFILLING THEIR REQUEST??????????????
SINCE THEY LET THE COMORONS PROTEST AND TARNISH YEMENIA'S IMAGE, NOW COMORONS SHOULD PROTEST AGAINST THEIR OWN PRESIDENT AND FRENCH AUTHORITIES TO GET ANSWERS?

[hoosang]

I want to thank you sharabilquis for supporting this information, god bless you.
people cannot access their dead bodies is very sad, i am not supporting the yemenia crew bodies only but i am also talking for the comorans also. after all, all are humans and what must be going through with their families.
just imagine the pain of all those families desperately trying to get information about dead bodies and mind you from far away, who can give them information, nobody, because french are trying to pull time to hide their truth.
as what exactly is happening there with search rescue teams is they are denied access to the area where dead bodies are. today 9 days are completed. very sad

[hoosang]

yes i dont deny that it is my story how stupid i am tellin g you that it is from yemen observor and the other one is from almotamar.net.
i didnt know how to get it here as i am not computer expert but i want the world to know that first find out the reason for crash then talk, what is the real cause nobody knows but all technical, mechanical, human, mistakes are speculated including tarnishing the image of the company? why? because of poor 3rd world country? why not airfrance judged the same way as even it fell into the sea ? why their pilots are born with blue blood because they are white skin, and blue eyes? when a company is flying for 40yrs without accident, and it crashed in no time eu tarnished their image. right or wrong.
when yemeni officials got the reports that french are not allowing divers to go close to the sight of dead bodies, and reason there was a french military vessel who shot the aircraft even if by mistake then they should say it openly. why not. its so easy to blame others but difficult to accept their fault because of what, big country france, airbus, or politics? some people wrote here stupid pilots-dead people? its very sad. why they are not humans their families are not crying now?
so if missile has got yemenia down let the world know it or again trying to cover the story politically? from people. till today do you know real cause of who were really involved in 9/11 or bombay taj terrorist attacks? what ever their countries government tells them they believe? right,
so my point is what yemen information from high people is in their newspapers is let the world read it. of course its not my pocket information. sorry for not putting the source as i wanted people to know what got the plane down, and its very sad that people concerned with their relatives who died are denied excess to get dead bodies. isnt it sad.
i hope you understand my point as people all around the world so fast believed what france said? and started giving their own conclusions?
now see what is real news missile shot down aircraft?
god bless all the people on board that aircraft

[sharabilquis]

Thank you Lisha for the explaining, so you are the same person "hoosang" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/29/world/main5124005.shtml

here is an article i want to share it with you:

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1872172_1826301,00.html

and this article from aawsat news paper :

http://www.aawsat.com/details.asp?section=4&article=526120&issueno=11176

Translation: Arabic » English

CAIRO: Mahmoud Khaled
He complained that the location of the plane after the French authorities withdrew the divers to a location other than the existing site where the plane is actually pointing out that France has a military force stationed in the Indian Ocean and the Gulf of Mozambique and the territorial waters of the Comoros.

He added: «do not exclude the occurrence of this .. Not a criminal act, but it seems that the plane had been found in time that may not exist », accused the French navy at the scene of deliberately excluding rescue and relief, however, the French scene.

He pointed out that the team held a meeting of the government rescue the lunar night the headquarters of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, concluded that France was not cooperating enough to save or recover the bodies of victims and find the wreckage of the plane. It was considered that there is no progress in finding more survivors or detect and recover the bodies of the victims and their belongings, adding that the French know the specific location of the plane, but pulling divers to other areas.

He added: «a team of divers from the four countries, namely France and the United States and Yemen, the Comoros, the French submarine has already identified the location of the plane but it is blocking access to the subtle ways».

"This raises the question about the justification for the withdrawal of France Bahiyyah Bakri girl, which is the only eyewitness to the incident, and he wondered why the French do not want to access the rest of the divers to locate the plane and prevent the access of any person to the site.

He said: «We have information on the informal cut French naval warship was apparently played an unannounced military maneuvers near the plane .. It appears that the ill-fated plane were found in the wrong time in the wrong place ». He added: «This is the story of reluctant strongly in the Government», pointing out that the girl I spoke to one survivor, who saved, and she had heard a large noise and a big explosion came from outside the plane .. The French immediately sent to the minister, feared that the sole survivor talk, despite the small age, words are not satisfied ».

http://www.aawsat.com/details.asp?section=4&article=526120&issueno=11176

[hoosang]

Yemenia?s ill-fated plane?s two black boxes? location has been detected and they will be recovered when the equipment arrives in the next few hours, said Hamid Faraj, the General Aviation Authority Manager today.

Meanwhile, Yemenia Airways said that it will organize a rally at the French Embassy in Sana?a on Tuesday, against what they describe as the prevention by French troops of Yemeni divers from entering a large area where the Airbus 310 wreckage is expected to be.

Victims? relatives and friends will also organize a demonstration at the French embassy, demanding cooperation with Yemeni and Comorian authorities in the search for the two black boxes and the bodies and any survivors said Yemenia Public Relation's Manager, Khalid al-Kaniai'.

Sources at Yemenia from the beginning did not rule out the prospect that the plane was shot down over an external reaction because no appeal for help was heard from the captain after he contacted Moroni airport for landing amid severe weather and sea conditions.

In the same context, the President of the Republic of Comoros Ahmad Abdullah Sambi, asked President Ali Abdullah Saleh to continue Yemenia Airways' flights to the Comorian capital, as it is the sole air carrier to Comoros.

The request comes in a letter from President Sambi to President Ali Abdullah Saleh handed over by Comorian Minister of Foreign Relations Ahmad Saeed Jafar.

The letter addressed the latest developments of the Yemeni plane crash saga off Comoros' coastlines last Tuesday.

The Comorian president expressed his personal condolences to President Saleh and the Yemeni people concerning the victims of the crash.

He affirmed his country's keenness on boosting the brotherly relations between the two countries, confirming that the airplane accident will not affect the two countries' ties and joint cooperation.

A Comorian official told the London based al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper that they are not ruling out the possibility that the Yemenia Airbus 310 was shot down with a missile, ensuring that the French Ambassador in Moroni told some top Comorian government officials that there were French Navy vessels performing maneuvers in the area of the accident a day before the plane crash. He also accused French navy authorities of intentionally driving the rescue teams away from the accident area.

President Sambi drew the audience?s attention to the issue that France is not showing enough cooperation for the rescue of survivors, recovering bodies, and cleaning up the wreckage from the plane at a meeting held by the Comorian government?s rescue teams yesterday at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

He said that there has been no progress achieved in discovering or recovering survivors and their property, ensuring that the French know exactly where the wreckage is located, but are directing the divers to other areas.

He added that rescue teams were formed from divers of the four countries of France, Yemen, USA and Comoros; however, their access to the crash site has been limited. A French submarine spotted the wreckage but the government has denied access to it through ambiguous ways.

Sambi added that the quick, French withdrawal of the surviving French girl Bahia al-Bakri aroused suspicions because she is the only eyewitness of the accident.

"We have unofficial information from French war vessels in the area which were presumably conducting undeclared military maneuvers near the plane,? said the Comorian official, adding that ?Perhaps the plane was at the wrong hour and place at that moment.?

He said that this story has been circulating within Government agencies, adding that the girl told one of her rescuers of her hearing a large noise and a large explosion coming from outside the plane. The French feared this, and in response, quickly sent a Minister to ensure that the only survivor would not say things detrimental to the French military and government.

He went on to say that it is in the favor of France that the bodies stay underwater for a long time, so as to not disclose what happened.

[hoosang]

Yemenia?s ill-fated plane?s two black boxes? location has been detected and they will be recovered when the equipment arrives in the next few hours, said Hamid Faraj, the General Aviation Authority Manager today.

Meanwhile, Yemenia Airways said that it will organize a rally at the French Embassy in Sana?a on Tuesday, against what they describe as the prevention by French troops of Yemeni divers from entering a large area where the Airbus 310 wreckage is expected to be.

Victims? relatives and friends will also organize a demonstration at the French embassy, demanding cooperation with Yemeni and Comorian authorities in the search for the two black boxes and the bodies and any survivors said Yemenia Public Relation's Manager, Khalid al-Kaniai'.

Sources at Yemenia from the beginning did not rule out the prospect that the plane was shot down over an external reaction because no appeal for help was heard from the captain after he contacted Moroni airport for landing amid severe weather and sea conditions.

In the same context, the President of the Republic of Comoros Ahmad Abdullah Sambi, asked President Ali Abdullah Saleh to continue Yemenia Airways' flights to the Comorian capital, as it is the sole air carrier to Comoros.

The request comes in a letter from President Sambi to President Ali Abdullah Saleh handed over by Comorian Minister of Foreign Relations Ahmad Saeed Jafar.

The letter addressed the latest developments of the Yemeni plane crash saga off Comoros' coastlines last Tuesday.

The Comorian president expressed his personal condolences to President Saleh and the Yemeni people concerning the victims of the crash.

He affirmed his country's keenness on boosting the brotherly relations between the two countries, confirming that the airplane accident will not affect the two countries' ties and joint cooperation.

A Comorian official told the London based al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper that they are not ruling out the possibility that the Yemenia Airbus 310 was shot down with a missile, ensuring that the French Ambassador in Moroni told some top Comorian government officials that there were French Navy vessels performing maneuvers in the area of the accident a day before the plane crash. He also accused French navy authorities of intentionally driving the rescue teams away from the accident area.

President Sambi drew the audience?s attention to the issue that France is not showing enough cooperation for the rescue of survivors, recovering bodies, and cleaning up the wreckage from the plane at a meeting held by the Comorian government?s rescue teams yesterday at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

He said that there has been no progress achieved in discovering or recovering survivors and their property, ensuring that the French know exactly where the wreckage is located, but are directing the divers to other areas.

He added that rescue teams were formed from divers of the four countries of France, Yemen, USA and Comoros; however, their access to the crash site has been limited. A French submarine spotted the wreckage but the government has denied access to it through ambiguous ways.

Sambi added that the quick, French withdrawal of the surviving French girl Bahia al-Bakri aroused suspicions because she is the only eyewitness of the accident.

"We have unofficial information from French war vessels in the area which were presumably conducting undeclared military maneuvers near the plane,? said the Comorian official, adding that ?Perhaps the plane was at the wrong hour and place at that moment.?

He said that this story has been circulating within Government agencies, adding that the girl told one of her rescuers of her hearing a large noise and a large explosion coming from outside the plane. The French feared this, and in response, quickly sent a Minister to ensure that the only survivor would not say things detrimental to the French military and government.

He went on to say that it is in the favor of France that the bodies stay underwater for a long time, so as to not disclose what happened.

[sharabilquis]

Thank you hoosang for the comment,

but this is an an article writen in Yemen Observer:

Posted in: Front Page
Written By: Abdul-Aziz Oudah
Article Date: Jul 5, 2009 - 5:07:34 PM


http://www.yobserver.com/front-page/10016788.html

and you can see the time , you can post it here but at least mention the Source.

Thank you

[hoosang]

The Comorian president expressed his personal condolences to President Saleh and the Yemeni people concerning the victims of the crash.

He affirmed his country's keenness on boosting the brotherly relations between the two countries, confirming that the airplane accident will not affect the two countries' ties and joint cooperation.

A Comorian official told the London based al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper that they are not ruling out the possibility that the Yemenia Airbus 310 was shot down with a missile, ensuring that the French Ambassador in Moroni told some top Comorian government officials that there were French Navy vessels performing maneuvers in the area of the accident a day before the plane crash. He also accused French navy authorities of intentionally driving the rescue teams away from the accident area.

President Sambi drew the audience?s attention to the issue that France is not showing enough cooperation for the rescue of survivors, recovering bodies, and cleaning up the wreckage from the plane at a meeting held by the Comorian government?s rescue teams yesterday at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

He said that there has been no progress achieved in discovering or recovering survivors and their property, ensuring that the French know exactly where the wreckage is located, but are directing the divers to other areas.

He added that rescue teams were formed from divers of the four countries of France, Yemen, USA and Comoros; however, their access to the crash site has been limited. A French submarine spotted the wreckage but the government has denied access to it through ambiguous ways.

Sambi added that the quick, French withdrawal of the surviving French girl Bahia al-Bakri aroused suspicions because she is the only eyewitness of the accident.

"We have unofficial information from French war vessels in the area which were presumably conducting undeclared military maneuvers near the plane,? said the Comorian official, adding that ?Perhaps the plane was at the wrong hour and place at that moment.?

He said that this story has been circulating within Government agencies, adding that the girl told one of her rescuers of her hearing a large noise and a large explosion coming from outside the plane. The French feared this, and in response, quickly sent a Minister to ensure that the only survivor would not say things detrimental to the French military and government.

He went on to say that it is in the favor of France that the bodies stay underwater for a long time, so as to not disclose what happened.

[hoosang]

The teenage girl who is the only known survivor of the Comoros plane crash that killed up to 152 people has described how she floated in the Indian Ocean clutching a piece of debris for 12 hours before her rescue.
how come?????????????
where is the photo of debri she found in darkness, when she heard people talking around her, and plus she could not swim at all?
or was it the voodoo which saved her as what President Sarkozy has blamed fundamentalist Mormon voodoo for the Yemenia Airways flight IY626 from Sanaa disaster.

The troubled Airbus 310 crashed near a Comoros Islands airport named after the Book of Mormon?s angel Moroni on Monday.
this survivor was miracle by voodoo??? or what. no debri, no bodies, no human remains, not even a piece of aircraft found, no suitcase, ha ha??? but she found debri so fast and why didnt she hear what people were talking? because people will be screeming not talking after a big crash?

President Sarkozy has blamed fundamentalist Mormon voodoo for the Yemenia Airways flight IY626 from Sanaa disaster.
The troubled Airbus 310 crashed near a Comoros Islands airport named after the Book of Mormon's angel Moroni on Monday.
The angel is reputed to have told Latter Day Saints prophet Joseph Smith that he'd buried some golden plates in an Indian Ocean location, believed to be the island of Njazidja where the airport is sited.
Sarkozy's latest outburst follows a recent televised rant about new British House of Commons Speaker John Burkha, a top UK proponent of universal Sharia Law.
Successive popes have lampooned Smith's bright light angel Moroni as a cunning emanation by Old Testament desperado Lucifer, popularly referred to as the Mothman in traditional American folklore.

The strange thing is what's NOT printed or asked, or even talked about. Any journalist worth his salt would have asked the "5-yr-old boy, no wait, a 14-yr-old-girl, I mean a 12-yr-old-girl--okay 14-yr-old girl" just what the heck happened BEFORE the "chilly water with bodies floating around" part of the story. By the way no bodies have been found besides the survivor- how the heck did THAT happen- they picked HER up, didn't they?

[hoosang]

Moroni is a notoriously difficult airfield to fly into, especially at night. The airport is at sea-level on the West side of a skinny island, with a 7700' mountain just to the southeast of it and a 3600' one to the northeast.. There is no published approach to Rwy 20, just an VOR/DME/ILS for 02. At night there are very few ground lights, a true 'black-hole' with part of it being the volcano mentioned.


Moroni. The approach into runway 20 is anything but a straight in approach. There is no such thing as a 10 mile or even 5 mile straight in approach because of the hills to your left. You are doing a visual approach from right base and constantly turning to align yourself with the runway and only the last mile or so are you actually completely aligned with the runway. Because of this, my company has designated Moroni as a 'difficult airport' and we are only allowed to fly there.

Moroni at night is a very dangerous thing to do. The risks involved are too high and the services available are very minimal. The non-precision app at night is a ridiculously difficult approach in good weather.
The Yemenia pilots operate out of very difficult airports in tough conditions on a daily basis, Sanaa their home base can be a very tough place to operate a wide body jet. I would not assume that their pilots skills were lacking.
Any pilot flying that approach in bad weather at night would have a much higher risk of dying than is acceptable.
The airline I flew there with pulled out of Moroni 5 or 6 years ago because of those dangers, thankfully!
What ever the cause of this crash, hopefully night flights into that place will be stopped by all airlines.

Good, those folks on the Comoros can stay on their miserable islands and lump it. Yemenia seems to have a reasonable safety record up to now...so all this knee-jerk nonsense about this accident is just that....nonsense.
Within few hours from the crash French authorities are brave enough to judge about technical defaults of the Yemenite airplane and the EU announces publishing of a worldwide black list of airlines. I am wondering why there were no similar statements immediately following the crash of Air France airplane a month ago, where all signs indicated technical default of the airplane as a reason of the crash. If the technical check conducted in 2007 at the airport of Paris resulted in a number of serious defects, why the airline was still allowed to enter EU airports? Either the airline was not checking properly its fleet and it should be kept away from the EU, or the defects were not serious at all and the French officials should keep their mouth shut.
if these comorons are protesting now and making a big show then------
why did comorons not protest like what they are doing now.
if yemenia was bad airline and not to forget only airline going to moroni, then they are stupids to still go on this airline they should have made the same show what they are doing now to stop the airline, and requested air france another crash airline to take them to moroni.
why to talk after the crash????

[darthcheney345]

An accident like this is tough to call.

Another Airbus down, another planeload of people dead.

But was it because it's an Airbus, or because the pilot was pressured by the greedy airline company to attempt a landing in "howling winds????"

Was it greed? Or was it Airbus?

Let's just scrap ALL Airbus aircraft. AND scrap all greedy companies.

Just to be safe.