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March 18, 2010 12:02 PM

Hundreds Expected At Madoff Sentencing

 

(CBS/AP)  Last updated 3:50 p.m. ET.

The Manhattan federal courtroom in New York where Bernard Madoff will receive his sentence Monday will be overflowing with the disgraced financier's victims.

Several people among the estimated thousands who were swindled by Madoff have asked to speak before the judge pronounces the convicted swindler's sentence.

Madoff pleaded guilty in March to charges that his exclusive investment advisory business was actually a massive Ponzi scheme. Federal prosecutors say Madoff orchestrated perhaps the largest financial swindle in history.

Hundreds are expected to attend Monday. The courtroom seats about 300; hundreds more will be able to watch the proceedings on television downstairs.

Prosecutors are seeking to put Madoff away in prison for the rest of his life, calling for a 150-year prison sentence. The defense has asked for a 12-year term because of Madoff's age.

Madoff will have an opportunity to speak in court (called allocution), but CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen says it is highly unlikely that anything he says will have an impact upon what the judge decides to give him as a sentence.

"There is no way the judge is going to sentence Madoff to 150 years in prison," said Cohen, "but it's equally unlikely he'll get the 12 years his lawyers say he deserved. I expect a lengthy sentence, at least a couple of decades long, which will amount to a practical life sentence for the 71 year old."

"I just hope that the punishment fits the crime, and the punishment should be nothing less than life in prison with no chance of parole," victim Richard Friedman told CBS Station WCBS.

"I think that he's going to get the maximum sentence and he will for sure spend the rest of his days on this planet in a jail cell," Ilene Kent of the Madoff Survivors Group told WCBS.

"If the courtroom is as crowded with victims as many people predict, it's going to be very important and very difficult for the judge and court personnel to maintain decorum," said Cohen. "You can't have a circus at sentencing, whether it's for a swindler or a murderer."

But anger and revenge may not sate the very real wounds that the financier inflicted upon his victims. "I don't care," another victim, Lawrence Cohen, told WCBS. "We don't care what happens to Madoff. We'd just like to get our money back,"

Towards that end, U.S. District Judge Denny Chin entered a preliminary order Friday, ruling that Madoff must give up his interests in all property, including real estate, investments, cars and boats, amounting to $171 billion.

The forfeiture represents the total amount that could be connected to Madoff's fraud, not the amount stolen or lost, and the order made clear that nothing prevents other departments or entities from seeking to recover additional funds.

In a court filing in March, Madoff's lawyer, Ira Sorkin said the government's forfeiture demand of $177 billion was "grossly overstated - and misleading - even for a case of this magnitude."

"When you think of that $171 billion forfeiture figure, remember that Madoff doesn't necessarily have that money, and the government won't necessarily be getting it," said Cohen. "It's just a figure based upon what the feds feel are the damages here. Collecting all of it is just wishful thinking."

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by luke_4u June 28, 2009 7:18 PM EDT
Newsflash ! Most older convicted "federal" offenders of non-violent crimes, like money offenses, do not serve their time in some tiny cell, locked away in the back of some filthy obscure prison. Sorry, but he will at some point end up at one of the federal camps, and there he will have the same rights and privileges as any other offender there. And that's as it should be. Those of you who are so ignorantly screeming for Madoff's blood need to remember something, he isn't a murderer, he stole money. That's all this is about, just money. And what about the money grubbing greedy so-called investors ? They were taking a chance, because of their greed they gambled away untold thousands of dollars, and they lost. That's just too damned bad for them, and this should be a lesson for them. That lesson is, when you take a gamble on getting something for nothing, you don't always win. At Madoff's age, ten or 12 years would be plenty. After all, it was only about money.
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by ABM_21 June 28, 2009 6:43 PM EDT
Let some of you tell it, maybe O.J. is awaiting his pardon from Obama, right?
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by ABM_21 June 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT
Let's get real here for a minute, people:
1) Obama is not Bush. Had Madoff been an associate of Bush's, a pardon may have been forthcoming. There is not a president with a shred of decency that would pardon Madoff for all the damage he's done.
2) When I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby was on trial, Cheney tried as hard as he could to get the man pardoned. He couldn't do it. There are some crimes that even the president isn't going to touch.
3) There are so many other associates of the White House---like many in Hollywood---that lost tons of money, thanks to Madoff.
4) Obama is not corrupt like Bush/Cheney were.
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by tautomer June 28, 2009 11:32 PM EDT
Yeah that's why Obama funneled all that cash to his friends at AIG, the UAW, Halliburton, all the recipients of his heavily pork-laden stimulus throwaway.
Obama is a product of the Chicago Political Machine, the most corrupt in the nation. It nurtured him, it shaped him and it knows he owes it.

Madoff donated exclusively to Democrat candidates (with one small exception of local candidate in Brewster, NY). More important is the very strong possibility that portions of that 60 Billion found their way into Obama's coffers as well as the coffers of pro-Obama PR groups where they were used to purchase favorable coverage and a blind eye towards Obama's political warts.
by HGOODGUY June 28, 2009 6:05 PM EDT
THE SAD THING ABOUT THE MADOFF SITUATION IS THAT PEOPLE INVESTED 100% OF EVERYTHING THEY HAD. THE RICH AND FAMOUS HAVE A SLIGHT HICCUP TO OVERCOME WHILE THE REST , ESPECIALLY SENIOR CITIZENS, HAVE BEEN DEVISTATED.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD INVEST 100% OF MY LIMITED ASSETS IN IS ME--PERIOD!!!
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by HGOODGUY June 28, 2009 5:58 PM EDT
IDIOT'S MANTRA

IT'S OBAMAS FAULT, ITS OBAMAS FAULT
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by ArmandB June 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT
He better stay in prison, it may be the safest place for him. With this many enemies, chances are someone will pay a few bucks to see him dead.
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by bajajohn1 June 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT
Why are some of you so plainly ignorant. The Judiciary is an co-equal branch of government. The Jucdicary does not answer to the Executive. How in hell is Obama involved in this sentencing matter? Get real Neocons, your ignorance makes Lady Justice gasp.
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by tautomer June 28, 2009 10:30 PM EDT
..so you don't think a sitting President has influence beyond those specifically defined? Your ignorance makes Lady Reality blush!
by tautomer June 28, 2009 1:07 PM EDT
I'll bet Obama let's him stay in a country club prison instead of doing hard time with the brothers up in Attica. Bernie funelled alot of money to Obama's campaign. Obama will now return the favor.

Look for Obama to pardon Bernie when he leaves office. Just like Clinton and Marc Rich.
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by tautomer June 28, 2009 10:26 PM EDT
Who said it has to be a Republican? If Obama is teaching us anything it's that the Dems are just as bad if not worse than the Republicans.

I always laugh when people makes statements like "well Obama is better than Bush"....it doesn't matter. As Presidents both stink, both are beholden to the greed of the folks who put them there.

Fortunately, as people realize that both major parties are corrupt and irresponsible they will begin to seek alternatives. People needed to see the feckless Democrats run us into the ground during the last 2-1/2 yrs to come to this realization.

It's incredible how many frequently I hear people say "I voted for Obama, but I wish I'd voted for....(in most cases Ron Paul, but thats beside the point). The fact is it is now becoming possible for an independent candidate to be heard.

This whole partisan, gridlock where lawmakers vote as they're told rather than with their conscience is an affront to all Americans. Many Americans seem embarrassed that they voted as they were told rather than with their conscience as well after this last election.

The fact is it's time to elect a leader as opposed to a telepromted figurehead.
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