July 8, 2009 3:42 PM

Democrats May Unite On Public Health Plan

(CBS/AP)  Emboldened by polls that show public backing for a government health insurance plan, Democrats are moving to make it a politically defining issue in the debate over the future of medical care.

Behind-the-scenes attempts to get a deal with Republicans on nonprofit co-ops as an alternative to a public plan have led only to frustration, complains a key Democrat. He and his colleagues may have to go it alone, said Sen. Chuck Schumer.

The co-ops were seen as perhaps the last hope for compromise on a contentious issue that threatens any remaining prospects of bipartisan support for President Obama's sweeping plan to remake the health care system.

"I don't think I could say with a straight face that this (co-op proposal) is at all close to a nationwide public option," Schumer, D-N.Y., told The Associated Press on Sunday. "Right now, this co-op idea doesn't come close to satisfying anyone who wants a public plan."

Most Democrats want the final health care bill to include a government sponsored plan that for the first time would be open to middle-class workers and their families. It would be offered alongside private plans through a new kind of insurance purchasing pool called an exchange. Individuals and small businesses would be able to buy coverage through exchanges, but eventually businesses of any size might be able to join.

Proponents say the option of a public plan in the marketplace would put a brake on costs and check the power of insurers. But Republicans, insurers and many business leaders say a government plan could drive private insurance companies out of business.

Nonetheless, two recent news media polls have found public support for a government plan, even if many people are unsure about its implications. The most recent survey, a New York Times-CBS News poll released Sunday, found that 72 percent supported the idea, including half of those who identified themselves as Republicans.

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"The polling data backs up our subjective view that to make health care reform work, you need a public option," said Schumer.

The poll revealed, however, that obstacles remain regarding the American people's perception of a public option, and the broader reform effort underway in Congress. Many Americans expressed concerned that their own health care may be compromised if the government became directly involved, and while they were generally willing to pay more in taxes for universal coverage, that support dropped when dollar amounts were mentioned.

Some Senate Democrats have considered nixing the public option proposal in order to win Republican support for the bill.

Schumer's role is important because he had been acting as an intermediary between liberal Democrats and moderates who are trying to strike a deal on the issue with Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee. Of the five House and Senate committees working on health care, Finance is the only one that appears to have a chance at reaching a bipartisan agreement.

Schumer said Finance Republicans had rejected several proposals designed to beef up the suggested nonprofit insurance co-ops. These included setting up a national structure for the co-ops, $10 billion in government seed money, power to negotiate payment rates to medical providers nationwide and creation of a presidentially appointed board of directors.

Without "dramatic" changes, Schumer said he would oppose the co-ops deal and urge other Democrats to do so as well. The Finance Committee compromise could be unveiled as early as this week. Senators were forced to start again last week because initial cost estimates were well above their 10-year, $1 trillion target.

The next few weeks will be pivotal in the debate. Democrats want to push ahead as far as they can before the July 4 congressional recess. Over the break, comments from constituents could determine whether Congress sticks to its goal of passing legislation this summer.

Both sides are nervous. Some Democrats say they doubt the plan has enough Democratic support to clear the Senate.

"I think there's a lot of concern in the Democratic caucus," Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."

Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, said lawmakers are rethinking their wish list, which includes coverage for all and slowing the rate of medical cost increases - goals that may be in conflict.

"So we're in the position of dialing down some of our expectations to get the costs down so that it's affordable and, most importantly, so that it's paid for because we can't go to the point where we are now, of not paying for something when we have trillions of dollars of debt," said Grassley, also appearing on CNN.

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by splashy79 June 23, 2009 6:52 PM EDT
I would rather have single payer universal health care, but at least the public plan would give me a choice of not supporting the vulture private insurance companies.

Actually, it would make it possible for me to have SOME kind of health care. In my state, anyone that is childless between the ages of 18-65 can't get any help at all when it comes to Medicaid. We are completely left out. Then people wonder why people have children when they are poor...
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by sjc_1 June 23, 2009 2:10 PM EDT
Optional National Health Insurance, NOT mandatory. One great way to provide affordable health care for millions of Americans.
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by Dgunner June 23, 2009 9:11 AM EDT
This will no doubt sweep the deadbeat parent issue right under the rug.This WILL creatE relief in many homes of grandparents who are paying for the welfare of thier grand children becuase , well thier own off spring is too fkin sorry to take care of thier own children. BREEDERS THAT NEED TO BE CUT. WHITES, BLACKS COLORS OF ALL RACES RIDE THE WHITE PONY TO THE WELFARE OFFICE.
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by sabniz June 22, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
Public plan should be in place, or else no health care reform will work. The key for such a public plan to succeed and as a way to cover everyone is to make it as a basic plan, a minimum coverage plan, which limits yearly doctor visits, hospital stay and annual maximum medical spending, such that it can be affordable to all and government won't go broke by covering everyone with such a plan. Any extra coverages or supplemental coverages will still be provided by private insurance.

Note that with a public basic plan to compete in market place, no private insurance companies will automatically lower insurance premium or provide coverage for everyone in US. All that uninsured people cost government and everyone else more and more money, which is a fact we can no longer ignore and if we don't do anything, sooner or later some of those who are covered by medical insurance now may be forced to join uninsured pool, in the case of loosing jobs or running out of money.
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by sabniz June 22, 2009 11:23 PM EDT
correction: "Note that WITHOUT a public basic plan to compete in market place, no private insurance companies will automatically lower insurance premium or provide coverage for everyone in US."
by chabuka-2009 June 22, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
I know where we can "find" the money for a single-payer national health care system...Sen. Grassley..you can start by, stop passing every new spending bill for Iraq..pay your (all of Congress can pay!) taxes on your government paid single-payer insurance programs..and all you Congress critters can stop spending your 1.5 million dollar allotment, the MRA (Member Representational Allowances) you are handed every year, and stop taking bribes from the private medical industries (so you won't be letting the corporations money stop your performing your real job, which is to represent the will of the American people, you Jack-Ass!) if you all can't do that then expect to loose your seat in either the House or the Senate...won't matter how much money the private medical industries give you for your re-election..the people will vote you out..the people have the votes and we are very tired of paying you people in Congress to lobby in FAVOR of corporations (we'll discuss the U.S. Supreme Courts, DOJ and judicial system's "corporate favoritism" at another time) while you kick the people in the teeth
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by jd2408 June 22, 2009 12:51 PM EDT
My neighbors 86 year old husband was taken to the hospital last spring. His wife told me they called in 8 different doctors to take care of him including a foot specialist and psychiatrist. She couldn't see anything wrong with his feet and already knew he wasn't in his right mind. After three weeks in the hospital they transferred him to a nursing home and he died the first week there. She says they didn't tell her ahead of time what they were doing. It makes you wonder if there is much more going on with health care that the rest of us don't know about.
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by actornaught June 22, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
Lost jobs in the insurance industry? Individually, sorry about that. But we don't care about productive, and/or basic industry jobs, such as steel production. What-the-eff does a bunch of extraneous paper pushers matter?

I look forward to when we'll have a tired laugh about the extinct phrase 'pre-existing condition'....
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by chitown639 June 22, 2009 12:20 PM EDT
This new format SUCKS....I'm outta here!!!
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by chitown639 June 22, 2009 11:54 AM EDT
by darthcheney123 June 22, 2009 8:48 AM PDT
You mean, THIS kind of fear:

http://www.moonbattery.com/Elian-Gonzalez.jpg

Yah, Elian Gonzales looks pretty terrorized all right. Why did the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION do that to him?

When it comes to terrorizing children with fear tactics, nothing beats the Democrats.
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Elian Gonzales??? You're still fighting that battle....little Elian is home with his ONLY living parent and his brothers and sisters where he belongs...and you can thank the Clinton Administration for standing up for families........
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by chitown639 June 22, 2009 12:10 PM EDT
by darthcheney123 June 22, 2009 8:58 AM PDT

Excuse me, but most families with children can DO WITHOUT machine gun wielding storm troopers crashing down their front door and kicking in the bedroom door of a little boy's bedroom, leaving children and adults alike screaming in terror.

How would YOU feel about this happening in YOUR house, all over a custody dispute??????

This is NOT the way to handle a family custody issue. If you think storm troopers with machine guns are the way to resolve a custody issue, that SAYS IT ALL about you.

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The custody hearing had already been RESOLVED in court, but the ADULTS refused to follow the court orders.....even a third rate moron like yourself should know that we live in a country of LAWS, those buffoons thumbing their noses at our courts were lucky they weren't all haul off to jail.....

Why REHASH that old story anyway....it has nothing to do with health care.....
by iam4honesty June 22, 2009 11:52 AM EDT
JUST DO IT!!! Republicans are irrelevant, going the way of the Whigs. GET THIS DONE NOW!! NO MORE PANDERING TO THE RIGHTWING TRAITORS!! Hasn't America suffered enough? It's past time to turn a deaf ear to the republican party, they will be gone soon anyway.
RIP
GOP
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