Real Reasons Miss Calif. Got The Boot

(CBS)  Carrie Prejean got another message from Donald Trump on Wednesday -- a message many have heard before her: "You're fired!"

Carrie Prejean, the reigning Miss California was let go, according to Trump, because she "failed to honor her commitments" to the organization.

Prejean, known for her controversial comments on same-sex marriage during the 2009 Miss USA competition, has appeared in headlines time and again, from her partially pageant-paid breast implants to semi-nude photos that surfaced.

Trump, in a press conference in May, publicly stood behind Prejean and kept her on as Miss California. But now, he's changed his mind.

On The Early Show Thursday, Keith Lewis, the executive director of Miss California USA -- who says he asked Trump to let Prejean go, and the new Miss California, Tami Farrell, discussed Prejean's departure.

Lewis told co-anchor Julie Chen Prejean missed "tens and tens" of appearances and was "difficult to work with."

Lewis said Prejean told competition officials she couldn't attend events because she had other things to do, and declined to appear in Hollywood.

"We came to a meeting of the minds in New York; we said we were putting it behind us, we're moving forward, we were going to get back on track," Lewis said, "and that was really far from what happened."

Lewis called Prejean's relationship with pageant officials "combative."

Prejean told entertainment Website TMZ.com she was "shocked" when she learned the news of her dismissal, and said she thinks the political debate is to blame and that pageant officials wanted her out.

But Lewis told Chen the decision was based entirely on her not being available for appearances.

"It was just very difficult for us, and we tried to meet halfway, and it was obvious that wasn't going to happen," Lewis said. "And finally, there was a point when the organization really had to stand up and say, 'You know what? It's time for us to move on and get back to the business of beauty." '

Lewis told Chen he hadn't heard from Prejean personally. He said everything was happening through attorneys.

Lewis said her appearances for the anti-same-sex marriage group National Organization for Marriage "kind of created this controversy."

He said Prejean didn't seem to want the crown.

"I think if you tell your boss, 'I'm not gonna do the job, I'm gonna do whatever I want, you can't tell me what I'm gonna do,' I think that you expect that you're boss is gonna say to you, 'You know what? You're probably not supposed to be in this job anymore." '

Farrell, the runner-up who took Prejean's place, said she's ready to assume her title, and "is honored to represent California."

When Chen asked her what she's going to be doing differently than Prejean, Farrell said she's going to be making the appearances. She added she even filled in for Prejean when she missed some dates.

Lewis told Chen he thinks Prejean is going to be successful in whatever she chooses to do, and the pageant is going continue to be successful, largely due to the spotlight Prejean helped put on it.

[Pickinpackinmama]

THIS KEITH LOUIS IS NO JUDGE. HE HAD IT IN FOR CARRIE PREJEAN BECAUSE SHE IS A CHRISTIAN AND LIVES BY TRUTH. THE WORD OF GOD. SHE WAS HONEST AND TRUTHFUL ON HER OPINION TOWARDS MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN. WHO EVER FOUND HER NUDE PICTURES BACK WHEN SHE WAS 18. BIG DEAL THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HER LIFE NOW. THAT PUNK GAY ACTIVIST LOUIS NEEDS TO BE FIRED. I HAVE HAD IT WITH ALL THESE HOMOSEXUALS TRYING TO INTIMADATE CHRISTIANS. ITS ABOUT TIME WE FIGHT BACK. IF GOD DESTROYED THE CITY OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH BACK IN THE DAYS OF LOT. BECAUSE GOD HATES SIN SUCH AS HOMOSEXUAL ACTS. GOD WILL DESTROY THE CITIES AGAIN WHEN CHRIST RETURNS. WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS YOUR REDEMPTION IS DRAWING NEAR. TURN AWAY FROM YOUR SINS AND REPENT

[Illuminated1]

The reason that Carrie Prejean got canned is California is full of weirdos and perverts. The sooner it falls into the ocean the better.
Posted by Willynailer

Hey you're just jealous because we have good weather year round......
only half of California is destined for destruction..eventually L.A. will be a suburb of S.F.

It was because some moron put a homosexual with a political agenda as judge that set up the Miss America pageant.

[russelllewis]

You're fired... no offense!

[toldyouso29]

I don't care that Prejean got fired. She's an idiot for putting silicone in her body so she could prance around on TV with bigger sweater cows. Clearly she didn't do any homework to find out women all over the world have silicone poisoning from breast implants. She'll put it together when she's diagnosed with Lupus. Will she think those fifteen minutes were worth it when she can't feel her legs?
What an idiot fame-seeker. Her punishment is built-in.

Really, it's Trump who gets to me. Why make a gay pornographer a judge in a women's beauty pageant? What good thing can come from that, really? Dumb call, Trump.
Posted by micheleisfree at 6:58 PM : Jun 12, 2009


Very few people who get breast implants use silicone anymore. Presently the preferred choice is for saline which is a plastic bag filled with salt water--already present in the body. Problems still rise from scarfication and encapsulation--this is because some bodies perceive the bag as a foreign object and attempt to 'wall it off' with hardened calloused material to prevent it from being next to actual tissue. This results in very hard breasts that hurt. The other problem is migration or just plain poor plastic surgery--both make the boobs look like they are in a place that is abnormal for a woman's body (too near her neck, too far apart or one or both sliding nearing to or pointing in the wrong direction)

Of course, the biggest problem is death--due to anesthesia problems if people get the surgery under a general. But silicone is rarely used--not even for the outside of the bag.

[toldyouso29]

amos1129

You have not read ALL of the emails between Keith Lewis and Miss Carrie Prejean. You have read the emails that Keith Lewis (known liar) has released. Miss Prejean has stated that there are over 70 emails between herself and Mr. Lewis. When and if these emails are ever released, Keith Lewis will not be shown in such a positive light.
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Posted by mikey5050 at 3:49 PM : Jun 12, 2009

Uhmmmm--most likely Lewis WILL be shown in a very positive light. Because unlike Carrie Prejean, Lewis will have realized that from the beginning emails and anything written, taped or televised could be used against him and he will have conducted himself accordingly.

Carrie is young and will not realize this--so she allowed her inner beeeyatch to be reflected in her writing. Whatever else was said, that is not recorded either on tape, in emails or letters or on film is hearsay and not going to fly.

The reason it is not going to fly is that if as you say, Lewis is a known liar--so is Carrie Prejean. She lied on her contract,

A. she lied about who took the pictures, (first she said her girlfriend took them as a lark and she was unaware that they would be published, then she said the same girlpal to submit them to a modeling agency, finally she admitted that they were taken by a modeling agency's photographer who was a male) Each explanation came out of her own mouth and there is tv footage of each explanation.

B. Carrie lied about why the nude photos were taken. (as a joke, as part of a modeling application, finally pics for a modeling job taken at the agency)

C. Carrie said there was only one picture. More have surfaced.

D. Carrie said the 'wind' blew the vest back revealing her breast, which happened to be in an open top with no bra--but no wind was visibly moving her hair

E. Carrie lied on the contract when she stated that she had never posed for nude or semi nude photos (she said she did not answer correctly because she did not think the pictures would ever be printed) which means she lied--because the contract question never asked or stated that a contestant could answer NO about the posing questions if they thought the pics would never be revealed.


so if, as you say, Lewis is a known liar and if as the tv footage and interviews and contract reveals, Carrie Prejean is a liar--all we have to go on is what is on tape or in writing. Lewis would or should be smart enough to make sure all emails were above board even if in private he treated Prejean like a dog. Obviously, as these emails show--Carrie Prejean was not smart enough.

The fact is, smart or not--no employee has the right to talk to her boss that way. If she does--no matter what other issues there may be--she will be fired. That goes for Beauty queens or anyone else. It is a very ugly trait of political junkies or ideological junkies--to excuse the behavior of someone just because they champion a certain view.

Prejean behaved without professionalism or decorum and it was exposed in an email--she should learn from this--and you and others should be able to defend her answers without defending her behavior in the emails--no matter what the provocation--no one should get away with speaking to a superior the way these emails depict Prejean doing.

[toldyouso29]

amos1129

You have not read ALL of the emails between Keith Lewis and Miss Carrie Prejean. You have read the emails that Keith Lewis (known liar) has released. Miss Prejean has stated that there are over 70 emails between herself and Mr. Lewis. When and if these emails are ever released, Keith Lewis will not be shown in such a positive light.
Also, what is an 'Unsheduled appearance'? Would that be an appearance that Miss Prejean was not notified of? I'm sure that the good people from the Miss Universe Org. would make sure that ALL Miss california's apperances were scheduled made clear to Miss California, don't you? So who is in breach of contract?
Posted by mikey5050 at 3:49 PM : Jun 12, 2009


What other side? If Prejean had emails to show another side, she most certainly would put them out here--after all, she put naked pictures of herself out here. NO doubt, she would if she could---it is perfectly legal to do so.

She was insubordinate to her boss and yes, the emails show she decided not to do appearances she was asked to do and said she would not and she would go her own way. That is like any of us being at any job and being told what to do and how we should do it--and then we respond with : " I'm going to do it my own way, I'm not going to do what you want me to do, I'm only going to do the parts I want--and there is nothing you can do about it"

Think you or any of us would last another 24 hours in that job?

At some point, Prejean must grow up and learn, if you don't want to do what your boss wants you to do--and they say it is part of your job--quit or be fired--because staying in a job and doing what the employee wants, when ever they want and the way that they want and whichever part that they want--while telling the boss to take a hike or suck it up--IS NOT AN OPTION.

She should have been fired--no matter how sorry or agreeable you are to her question and answers--she sounds like an employers' AND coworkers' nightmare.

[toldyouso29]

This is why we believe Prejean.....Keith Lewis is a LIAR. Like I said, if you want to crucify Carrie Prejean for her beliefs, at least have the courage to do it honestly.

Keith Lewis, executive director of Miss California USA/Teen USA, also wrote a letter condemning Prejean that echoed what she says she was told following the pageant.

"As co-executive director of Miss CA USA and one of the leaders of the Miss CA family, I am personally saddened and hurt that Miss CA USA 2009 believes marriage rights belong only to a man and a woman," he wrote. "Although I believe all religions should be able to ordain what unions they see fit, I do not believe our government should be able to discriminate against anyone. Religious beliefs have no place in politics in the Miss CA family."
Posted by mikey5050 at 11:34 AM : Jun 12, 2009


Lewis gave the politically correct and savvy answer. But this does not mean he is a liar, just because his view is different than PreJeans--nor does it mean he was out to 'get her'. It just means he gave a smarter answer that not only gave a nod to religion on the matter, but also did not take sides as far as marriage is concerned.
Gov. DO have a responsibility to not discriminate against any person. Churches and believers can practice what they like--but there is a difference in conforming and practicing what YOU believe and forcing an entire country to conform and practice what YOU believe.

[toldyouso29]

You can see examples of Carrie's emails to her boss on Dailyfill.com. When you read the exchange, it becomes clear that Carrie is immature and upset/ It also becomes clear that she was insubordinate.

People start whining that Lewis took the emails out of context or knew he was going to present them as evidence against her before hand. Maybe..But Carrie should have realized that whatever is written or said or done to others--esp. if one is in the public eye--can come back to haunt you.

Never write anything or say anything or do anything you cannot stand to see the light of day.

Carrie was ugly in those emails and unprofessional. No matter what their real relationship is or was, you simply NEVER< EVER< EVER tell your boss that you are going to do whatever you like, not what they want and that basically, they can't do anything about it...because 9 times out of 10 then CAN and WILL do something about it--they will FIRE you.

THAT is the perogative of bosses. If Carrie really has no idea why she was fired, then she is an airhead.

She was fired for her attitude and insubordination and not fulfilling her contract. And if it was all a set up to get her--then she also was fired, for being too stupid to watch what she did or said and to stay above reproach knowing people would be gunning for her, after the photos, the questions, the boob job and Trumps support. No group of any corp--likes a prima donna in their midst nor anyone who is boss's pet. The minute the rules began to bend for her was the real minute Ms. Prejean began to gain enemies and they set out to make her look bad.

I believe she may have been set up--but no one made her take the stances on appearing at certain venues and no one made her respond in her emails the way that she did. If this was all due to her age and immaturity--then this proves she was neither savvy or mature enough to wear this crown or carry out the responsibilities inherent to it.

[bradkt1]

Conservatives are hell-bent on believing that she got fired because of her answer on the gay marriage question. I disagree. Just because she had political support from the outside didn't mean that she was excused from doing her job. If you consistently don't show up at the events that you are contractually obligated to show up at and, in effect, dare the pageant officials to fire you, you deserve to be fired. It's easy enough to determine whether she was showing up at the events she was supposed to show up at. If she wasn't, then they had cause to fire her. It would be easy for her to disprove what the pageant officials said if she was doing her job...but instead, all she is doing is changing the subject.

[anthony1717]

i do not watch the show, but the lady was asked a question and she answered it on what she felt or was raised on. just because this gay person perez hilton, did not like the answer, degraded this lady. his influence in the business, had her dethroned. too bad, american does not give the right for people to say what they feel. shape up, america