June 15, 2009 9:04 AM

Flight 447 Search Finds Only Uncertainty

(CBS/AP)  Last Updated 1:21 p.m. ET

As Brazil and France disagreed Friday about whether pieces of a downed Air France jet have been found in the Atlantic, investigators used the last messages from the plane to try to avoid future disasters.

Brazilian officials have insisted for three days that military pilots have spotted wreckage from Flight 447 scattered across the ocean's surface. Air Force Brig. Gen. Ramon Cardoso again expressed confidence Friday that at least some of the objects - an airplane seat, a slick of kerosene and other pieces - are from the plane that vanished Sunday with 228 people on board.

"This is the material that we've seen that really was part of the plane," Cardoso said.

But ships guided by planes in the search area have been hampered by extremely poor visibility, and have recovered no wreckage. "We don't have any information yet that any of the ships are near any of the objects," Cardoso said.

The only piece retrieved so far, a cargo pallet, turned out to be sea garbage. Like other suspicious objects, it had to be hauled up and checked out, said Brazilian Navy Adm. Edson Lawrence.

"There is a lot of garbage in the sea, and sometimes what might seem to be wreckage is actually trash," Lawrence said Friday.

French officials stopped short of criticizing their Brazilian counterparts, but France's Transportation Minister Dominique Bussereau said his own country's searchers have found no signs of the Airbus A330.

"French authorities have been saying for several days that we have to be extremely prudent," Bussereau told France's RTL radio. "Our planes and naval ships have seen nothing."

A French Defense Ministry official, speaking only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, also questioned the Brazilian claims, saying French teams "cannot precisely confirm the zone where the plane went down."

Cardoso also said a large oil slick spotted by search plane pilots was not from the Airbus, but that authorities believe another slick of kerosene was probably from the downed passenger jet.

Prosecutors in Paris opened a manslaughter probe, their office said Friday - a routine step whenever French citizens die overseas.

Bussereau said the priority is finding the flight voice and data recorders that could help explain the cause of the world's worst civilian aviation disaster since 2001.

Since these "black boxes" may be miles below the surface, investigators are looking for clues in the messages sent from the plane's computers just before it disappeared. One theory: outside probes that feed speed sensors may have iced over, giving incorrect information to the plane's computers. The autopilot may have then directed the plane to fly too fast or too slow when it encountered turbulence from towering thunderstorms.

Air France sent a memo to its pilots Friday about the crash, saying the airline is replacing flight-speed sensors in all its medium- and long-haul Airbus jets.

Air France declined to comment on the memo obtained by The Associated Press, saying it is for pilots only.

Late Thursday, Airbus sent an advisory to airlines reminding them how to handle the A330 in similar conditions.

Airbus spokesman Justin Dubon said the message was sent after the French agency investigating the crash said the doomed flight had faced turbulent weather and inconsistency in the speed readings by different instruments.

That meant "the air speed of the aircraft was unclear," Dubon said.

In such circumstances, flight crews should maintain thrust and pitch and - if necessary - level off the plane and start troubleshooting, Dubon said.

Meteorologists said the Air France jet entered an unusual storm with 100 mph updrafts that acted as a vacuum, sucking water up from the ocean. The moist air rushed up to the plane's high altitude, where it quickly froze in minus-40 degree temperatures. The updrafts also would have created dangerous turbulence.

The jetliner's computer systems ultimately failed, and the plane broke apart likely in midair as it crashed into the Atlantic on a flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris Sunday night.

The Pentagon has said there are no signs terrorism was involved. Brazil's defense minister said the possibility was never considered. French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner agreed that there is no evidence supporting a "terrorism theory," but said "we cannot discard that for now."

"Nothing leads us to believe that there was an explosion, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one." he said in Rio de Janeiro Thursday. "All the paths are open and we will not give priority to a single premise because that would be immoral."

Brazil's Air Force was flying relatives of victims to the search command post in the northeastern city of Recife Friday to tour the operation and ask questions. Recife has a large air force base where debris and any human remains would be brought.

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by TothGaby June 17, 2009 2:29 PM EDT
Hey faces,

watch this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OjagEIU7tM
very interesting taste to disaster!!!!
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by craigbennie June 9, 2009 11:44 AM EDT
Both pilots of the Air Comet flight from Lima to Lisbon sent a written report to aviation authorities, i.e, Air France, Airbus, describing what they saw. They reported that "Suddenly, we saw a bright flash....an intense flash of white light, ....in a descending and vertical trajectory....." in the area of Flight 447.

Recalling the January 7, 1948 incident of Kentucky Air National Guard Captain Thomas Mantell, Jr., who was ordered to intercept a UFO sited over Mansville, Kentucky, one notices a strange similarity in eyewitness testimony. Witness farmer Glen Mays of Franklin, KY said he saw Mantell's plane "enveloped by a brilliant white flash of light...so bright....it was like looking at the sun". Captain Mantell's aircraft then "appeared to fall out of this light and pancake into the ground" Mays said.

There's a commonality between the Air France Flight 447 tragedy and Captain Mantell's crash---- reports of a mysterious intense flash of white light preceding the doomed aircraft. Just coincidence?... or something more frightening?
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by Dgunner June 6, 2009 9:11 AM EDT
We can find the Titanic we can find nuclear installations from space. Oil drilling corporations have the best ground penetrating siesmic technology on the planet . Yet thet can't , won't or don't want to actually spend what it takes to find these people that were killed.The US NAvy could find them in one day or less but this not a priority since they are all dead anyway.
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by armyoftwelve June 5, 2009 7:49 PM EDT
It would be better to be certain of what you report before making announcements to the press or the public. I can't imagine what the families of the dead are going through.
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by 45ford June 5, 2009 3:01 PM EDT
Posted by realitychec6 at 11:13 AM : Jun 5, 2009
... to those who write comments: please proofread your typing and make corrections. Misspellings, typos, or missing words make clever, witty or 'truth punch' remarks appear ridiculous.
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... and there are those of us who also recognize that not everyone is perfect and that misspellings do, and most certainly, will occur - whether it's because of cultural challenges, struggles with the English language or even illiteracy that very much exists throughout the U.S. and the world.

so contrary to what others may post, your voice is equally welcome here, whether your comments are spelled correctly or not. please don't allow the perfect, self-righteous ones try to make you believe otherwise. ignore them.
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by Slrman-21001573651763300012869 June 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT
"Brazilian navy is a joke. They couldn't figure out if it was from a crashed plane or just "sea trash"? Truth4SD

What do you know about Brazil or its Navy? Apparently nothing. You can't even read the news correctly. What it said was, the cargo pallet they pulled from the ocean was not part of the plane as it carried no wood pallets. There was no confusion by anyone on that score. Well, yours of course, but that's to be expected from an ignorant, opinionated jerk.
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by realitychec6 June 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT
... to those who write comments: please proofread your typing and make corrections. Misspellings, typos, or missing words make clever, witty or 'truth punch' remarks appear ridiculous.
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by dnamj June 5, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
The confirms that it was the Langoliers.
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by Truth4SD June 5, 2009 12:23 PM EDT
Brazilian navy is a joke. They couldn't figure out if it was from a crashed plane or just "sea trash"?
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by kbbpll June 5, 2009 11:51 AM EDT
"The jetliner's computer systems ultimately failed, and the plane broke apart likely in midair as it crashed into the Atlantic" - CBS News, no one knows what happened, so why do you print stuff like this?
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