Gitmo Detainee Dies Of "Apparent Suicide"

Man, 31, Has Been Held Without Charge Since Early 2002; Fourth Apparent Suicide At The Prison

(AP)  U.S. military officials say a Yemeni detainee at Guantanamo Bay has died of an "apparent suicide."

The Joint Task Force that runs the U.S. prison in Cuba says guards found 31-year-old Muhammad Ahmad Abdallah Salih unresponsive and not breathing in his cell Monday night.

In a Tuesday statement, the military says the detainee was pronounced dead by a doctor after "extensive lifesaving measures had been exhausted."

The Yemeni prisoner, known as Al-Hanashi has been held without charge at Guantanamo since February 2002. Military records show he was about 31. His is the fourth apparent suicide at Guantanamo.

The U.S. military says the remains will be autopsied by a pathologist from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology.

[thesecolorsaretrue]

it is very disheartening to see everyone who has the rights and the freedoms to say what they will when they please and talk so much crap about the best country in the world i along with all of my military brethren give each and everyone of you the right to bash us for the job we do but not more than 8 years ago when the WTC was falling to the ground did every american shake there fists to the sky and say lets go to war but now we are all sobbing for the death of a terrorist that for all you know should have been on the damn plane to destroy all the american lives all the mens and woen that died that day for you to sit here and bash them maybe you should be the ones behind the celll doors maybe you should be the ones that lives this life that they have lived for all these years i guess no one remembers what it is like to be american in this world in this great USA you are all sick people and should really think about moving to another country if you cant stand up for whats right and what you should be believing in its where you were born be proud of it embrace it as all the men and women in the military have done for the past several hundred years so that you can talk **** about your country honestly you all make me sick

[TPS2]

Gitmo is under DoD control beyond the borders of the US. The President has no control over Gitmo.
Posted by bannednancy

President/Commander in Chief, no control over the DOD/Military? Who would have thunk it?

[tunaatlast]

AS LONG AS THERE IS A WAR AGAINST MUSLIM EXTREMISTS, THE PRISONERS AT GITMO ARE PRISONERS OF WAR AND SHOULD STAY IN PRISON. JUST LIKE THE POWS OF WWII

[sean58z]

Captives at Guantanomo Bay Prison will not accept torment. They cannot live with the slant board, water torture, and shock devices ready for the interrogation. The Ku Klux Klan practiced cruelty for years like this on African Americans to reveal deeply held secrets. The KKK applied electricity to genitals forcing revelations.

[dwilson59]

One down 247 to go

[hoseobama]

I suspect all of the remaining detainees will have to commit suicide before Obama will be able to close Gitmo's detention center.

Another case of opening his mouth and making a promise he can't keep. Then the fool goes one step further and sets a date, without a plan for the detainee's future.


Ha ha ha ha ha ha... Talk about egg on the face when the year is up and he has to change his own order.

[stupa1]

"Apparent Suicide"

[ToolMangler1]

In answer to number 1 above: but yet they expect us to believe a bunch of bearded fools with toenail clippers and box cutters successfully attacked the headquarters of the greatest military on earth in the most controlled airspace on the planet, and having just weeks before earned their pilot licenses, managed to hit 2 bldgs direct on target in close sweeping turns, when expert veteran pilots claim it would be difficult in the extreme to accomplish and few can recreate on a simulator? Harder than Lee Harvey Oswald getting off 3 shots from a bolt action rifle dead on target in 6 seconds. (debunked as almost impossible years ago). But strangely akin to the "magic bullet."

I cannot answer with any credibility #2 but could geuss as well as any, but won't.

On #3, demolition experts agree the pancaking effect can be controlled in either direction depending on the timing of the explosives.

For #4, these fires still held temperature above the max burning temp of jet fuel for weeks when they should have been snuffed out due to lack of oxygen, regardless of the chemical makeup of any of the generators, power systems, except thermite which is designed for such extreme temps.

#5 You're right the steel didnt melt in the jet fuel fire as it wasn't near hot enough, though was probably weakened to a relatively small degree.

And nothing of what you speak would account for the core girders being precisely cut and melted as is shown in the photo if you looked at it. And according to witnessess there were many, many of the girders that bear/bore the same telltale markings.

Also, if you saw the page you would have seen the eyewitness accounts of many on the ground that day that say the explosions started at ground level or below, police, fire, and civilian witnesses.

The FBI showed up at the service station across the street from the pentagon 7 minutes after the supposed crash there, according to employees and the owner, to consfiscate the video that has never been shown and that the employees claim showed no airplane. Pretty good timing I'd say to get there in 7 minutes in the middle of full scale pandamonium.

But mostly, steel framed bldgs do not fall at the rate of gravity. Never have, never will. Anyone could understand the floors and ceilings pancaking one atop another, but the frame would still be standing there today regardless.

And we haven't even started talking about bldg #7 which wasn't hit by supposed aircraft but yet manages to completely collapse in 6 seconds flat.
Posted by nofoolling at 9:38 PM : Jun 2, 2009




As a Metalurgist with lots of experience in metals and concrete I will tell you that you have a great dream going there. Money buys knowledge and the Bin Ladens have billions, I saw the buildings fall and will tell you now that it "WAS NOT" a demolition type fall.
So take your 'Conspiracy" theorys and stuff them where the Sun doesn't shine...

[KingSkibo]

This must be part of President Obama's plan to close Gitmo without releasing the hostages.

[OregonJames]

Well, there is another dead prisoner. That much is for certain, but how can we believe that this was a suicide when so many others have died of so-called NATURAL CAUSES while undergoing torture? The sad part of this is that we cannot trust our own government.

"It's almost an out-of-body experience to me to listen to this debate going on," said General Barry McCafferey in an MSNBC interview last month, scolding pundits and policymakers who openly advocate a criminal torture regime. "We should never, as a policy, maltreat people under our control--detainees. We tortured people, unmercifully, we probably murdered dozens of them," he said. McCaffrey supports an investigation of the government lawyers who knowingly advocated illegal torture, and he specifically cited Bush's White House counsel and attorney general in the same discussion, emphasizing that "we better find out how we went so wrong."

[nofoolling]

Or maybe you refuse to believe your own eyes as you watch 2 steel framed buildings fall at the rate of gravity, impossibly defying any known physics except deliberate demolition.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/thermite.html?q=thermite.html

Keep asking questions.
Posted by nofoolling at 3:19 PM : Jun 2, 2009

Your conspiracy theory lacks credibility. Heres' facts.

Simple resoning of the obfious:
1. Bush and his team were not the brightest administration we have ever had. And you expect us to believe that somehow they pulled off the most collosal conspiracy the world has ever seen.
2. If the Bush secrecy machine was honed so well, why werent they able to gin up some WMD when they went into Iraq? It certainly would have been easier to fake WMD in a wartorn country than to completely hide the WTC conspircay you claim.

OK, play the "look at what happened" game:
3. We watched the building fall. From the top down. A building being demolished falls from the bottom up. The whole thing settles a bit, then falls down onto the lower sections. The WTC pancaked.
4. The so called "thermite" was most likely chemical fire caused by the large Uninterruptable Power systems housed on the upper floors of the WTC.
5. The steel did not melt for the building to fall, it only weakened. Coupled with the structural damage from the aircraft the upper floors pancaked down on the lower ones.

But I know Im not goign to convince you. Conspiracys are such fun. But other readers need to know this stuff is poppycock.

Now, the death of Marilyn Monroe, that may have been a conspiracy by the Kennedy family or its lackys.

In answer to number 1 above: but yet they expect us to believe a bunch of bearded fools with toenail clippers and box cutters successfully attacked the headquarters of the greatest military on earth in the most controlled airspace on the planet, and having just weeks before earned their pilot licenses, managed to hit 2 bldgs direct on target in close sweeping turns, when expert veteran pilots claim it would be difficult in the extreme to accomplish and few can recreate on a simulator? Harder than Lee Harvey Oswald getting off 3 shots from a bolt action rifle dead on target in 6 seconds. (debunked as almost impossible years ago). But strangely akin to the "magic bullet."

I cannot answer with any credibility #2 but could geuss as well as any, but won't.

On #3, demolition experts agree the pancaking effect can be controlled in either direction depending on the timing of the explosives.

For #4, these fires still held temperature above the max burning temp of jet fuel for weeks when they should have been snuffed out due to lack of oxygen, regardless of the chemical makeup of any of the generators, power systems, except thermite which is designed for such extreme temps.

#5 You're right the steel didnt melt in the jet fuel fire as it wasn't near hot enough, though was probably weakened to a relatively small degree.

And nothing of what you speak would account for the core girders being precisely cut and melted as is shown in the photo if you looked at it. And according to witnessess there were many, many of the girders that bear/bore the same telltale markings.

Also, if you saw the page you would have seen the eyewitness accounts of many on the ground that day that say the explosions started at ground level or below, police, fire, and civilian witnesses.

The FBI showed up at the service station across the street from the pentagon 7 minutes after the supposed crash there, according to employees and the owner, to consfiscate the video that has never been shown and that the employees claim showed no airplane. Pretty good timing I'd say to get there in 7 minutes in the middle of full scale pandamonium.

But mostly, steel framed bldgs do not fall at the rate of gravity. Never have, never will. Anyone could understand the floors and ceilings pancaking one atop another, but the frame would still be standing there today regardless.

And we haven't even started talking about bldg #7 which wasn't hit by supposed aircraft but yet manages to completely collapse in 6 seconds flat.

[incog-nito]

I doubt that he was ever tortured. Even Cheney and Obama agree it was only three high value detainees that were waterboarded.
Posted by McHineguy at 4:53 PM : Jun 2, 2009

Psst... there's more than one way to torture.

[armyoftwelve]

So what!

[searingtruth]

"Torture is not confusing at all. The stench of the vomit and blood and urine and feces expelled by its victims, and their wrenching cries for mercy or death, are clear evidence that abomination is working its evil will.

No one can deny, or claim ignorance, of its stain.

And its stain upon America will never be erased.

There are some things that you can never take back."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[McHineguy]

Suicide, I guess being held for 6 or 7 years in solitary confinement and tortured repeatedly had nothing to do with his death. Another example of "innocent American justice".
Posted by PVperson2 at 4:51 PM : Jun 2, 2009

Do you think he has been tortured these last four months?

I doubt that he was ever tortured. Even Cheney and Obama agree it was only three high value detainees that were waterboarded.

[PVperson2]

Suicide, I guess being held for 6 or 7 years in solitary confinement and tortured repeatedly had nothing to do with his death. Another example of "innocent American justice".

[McHineguy]

...

Or maybe you refuse to believe your own eyes as you watch 2 steel framed buildings fall at the rate of gravity, impossibly defying any known physics except deliberate demolition.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/thermite.html?q=thermite.html

Keep asking questions.
Posted by nofoolling at 3:19 PM : Jun 2, 2009

Your conspiracy theory lacks credibility. Heres' facts.

Simple resoning of the obfious:
1. Bush and his team were not the brightest administration we have ever had. And you expect us to believe that somehow they pulled off the most collosal conspiracy the world has ever seen.
2. If the Bush secrecy machine was honed so well, why werent they able to gin up some WMD when they went into Iraq? It certainly would have been easier to fake WMD in a wartorn country than to completely hide the WTC conspircay you claim.

OK, play the "look at what happened" game:
3. We watched the building fall. From the top down. A building being demolished falls from the bottom up. The whole thing settles a bit, then falls down onto the lower sections. The WTC pancaked.
4. The so called "thermite" was most likely chemical fire caused by the large Uninterruptable Power systems housed on the upper floors of the WTC.
5. The steel did not melt for the building to fall, it only weakened. Coupled with the structural damage from the aircraft the upper floors pancaked down on the lower ones.

But I know Im not goign to convince you. Conspiracys are such fun. But other readers need to know this stuff is poppycock.

Now, the death of Marilyn Monroe, that may have been a conspiracy by the Kennedy family or its lackys.

[LawyersGuns-n-Money_]

BRaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

[dahizzle]

>>>Why put quotes around the words "apparent suicide", ABC News? Aren't you supposed to be reporting the news and be an unbiased and objective source? RRRRight, that hasn't been true for at least 30 years.<<<

It's an Associated Press news story, dipsh*t. MSNBC and every major newspaper in this country picked up the same story. You're apparently in over your head on this message board. Check out Nick Jr., probably more in your league.

[fred-mertz]

Hey, I just noticed. The stupid ditto heads didn't even mention "CBS" in their whining about quoting what the military officials said. They just copied and pasted someone's complaint that ABC did the same thing.

Stupid, stupid dittoheads! They don't even know where they are!