May 22, 2009 9:40 AM

Has Obama Been "Rolled By The Generals?"

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(CBS)  The "On The Marc" column is written by The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder, CBS News' chief political consultant.
In her latest column, The New York Times's Maureen Dowd, channeling "Dick Cheney," writes of President Barack Obama: "He's a sucker for four-star generals, can't resist anyone in uniform. Petraeus and Odierno speak and he jumps. If we want to roll him, we just send in the military brass flashing their medals."

In Washington parlance, Dowd, a political liberal, is bemoaning the fact that Obama regularly gets "rolled by the generals" - or fell victim to legerdemain because he could not resist the chestfuls of shiny medals and the exaggerated deference to him shown by the commanders of his armed forces.

She's referring, in particular, to reports that the president changed his mind about the wisdom of releasing photographs showing U.S. troops abusing detainees because Generals David Petraeus and Ray Odierno complained to him that the release would endanger troops around the world. The day after Obama announced his decision, the respected former Washington Post military correspondent Thomas Ricks bluntly wrote that Obama was now "twice rolled" by the military because, on the urging of Petraeus and Odierno and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, he delayed the timetable for withdrawing U.S. combat troops from Iraq.

This is a meme I've been watching -- frustration on the left that President Obama is incapable of asserting independence from his generals, and that he is easily bamboozled (a phrase Obama used in a difference context) by their arguments because he is naïve and does not know better. The bill of particulars is fairly long: not only did he change his mind on the detainee photos and delay the Iraq withdrawal, he also agreed to his generals' plans for a troop surge in Afghanistan and he's softened his language about the timeframe for repealing the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy banning gays from the military.

But these theories ignore some evidence to the contrary. Several times, in fact, Obama has overruled the prevailing wishes of the military establishment. He's endorsed aggressive procurement reform, and, against the wishes of many generals, is standing firm as his Defense Department attempts to pare down funding for superstar battle systems like the F-22 fighter jet. More interestingly, he overruled his Secretary of Defense on the crucial question of whether the United States should replace its nuclear weapons arsenal with a newer generation of warheads. Gates said it was vital to the country's national security interests, but the White House insisted that funding for the warheads be cut to zero.

That said, Obama does have a penchant for building consensus, and that might mean that he is susceptible to the political wrangling of his flag officers. Or it might mean that Obama simply respects the views of the people who are fighting the wars on the ground and not necessarily the views of elites, be they Congressional, at the New York Times, or in the Washington think tank world.

Another theory among some Obama watchers is that, as a young Democratic politician, he wants to build credibility with the military - something that the last young Democratic president, Bill Clinton, neglected to do until several years into his presidency. Indeed, Clinton famously reversed course on gays in the military because he did not have the gumption or the political wherewithal to stand up to extremely savvy veterans of the game like Colin Powell.

Note, too, that Obama's positions on all of these issues pretty much track toward the center of the American people. He's developed a sensibility for managing the optics of his decisions, and as a result, Americans see him as a capable commander in chief. When even tougher decisions have to be made - and when and if Obama has to confront his general officer corps - the political capital he's building now may well pay off.
By Marc Ambinder

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by dfnj2009 May 24, 2009 12:52 AM EDT
Please give us examples of the brilliance of the Bu$h Administration.
The man was an embarrassment everytime he opened his mouth........

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Obama is the worst president in 100 years.
Posted by real1413 at 6:16 AM : May 23, 2009
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Top 10 Bushisms
The Stupidest Things President George W. Bush Has Ever Said

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." ?LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." ?Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000(Listen to audio clip)

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." ?second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Listen to audio clip)

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." ?Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

6) "You work three jobs? ? Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." ?to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005 (Listen to audio clip)

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." ?Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

4) "They misunderestimated me." ?Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" ?Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ?Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee ? I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ? that says, fool me once, shame on ? shame on you. Fool me ? you can't get fooled again." ?Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)
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by dfnj2009 May 24, 2009 12:48 AM EDT
Since Bush declared the Generals on the ground were dictating the war it's not clear the US military is still under civilian control!
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by bbpkr May 23, 2009 5:20 PM EDT
Rip Van vinylogy, you obviously awoke in Jan 2007 from a 6-year snooze. Those factors are what brought in the Democratic Majority in the Nov. 2006 Midterm elections.
Alas, the triumphant Dems had only a 2-vote Senate majority, allowing the barely-Minority Repugs to use the Filibuster a Record 112 Times from Jan. '07-Jan. '09, obstructing any Demo legislative efforts.
The Repug Filibuster-power got whittled down in the 2008 elections, but the Repugs are still in Obstruction-mode.
I'm Already campaigning for more Demo -seats to be added in the 2010 Midterms, rendering the Senate Repugs Impotent.
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by DownTheMiddle May 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT
Hey Maureen, That was some very clever sarcasm. Did you write that?
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by the74blaster May 23, 2009 11:31 AM EDT
Obama is the worst president in 100 years.
Posted by real1413 at 6:16 AM : May 23, 2009

Please support this statement with some facts! Bring it on because there is no way you defend it, so I dare you to try!
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by zloa May 23, 2009 10:32 AM EDT
I have news for your leftist liberals. You didn't get president Obama elected. the centrist democrats and independents did. So quit ******* unless you would rather have the Repubs running this country again like the last 8 years. It's not going to be the Republican right that is going to bring Obama down, It's the far left.
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by Dgunner May 23, 2009 9:15 AM EDT
So much political savy in these posts I realize just how mortal I really am. Some of you geniuses should have put your name on the ballot. With all your wisdom and ceratinly the high I Q you would have a certain shoe in for president. I highly doubt your IQ is close to his and he only carries 129.
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by microgadus May 22, 2009 9:15 PM EDT
I doubt he's getting "rolled" by anyone-- he now KNOWS what the last Administration KNEW and is ACTING ASCCORDINGLY---so he doesnt LOSe any WARS or get us ATTACKED by any terrorists.

Of course, he may be getting rolled by some on the left--if he's thiniking of having ANY terrorists held out side the country tried in NY he might just want to read up a vote he either cast a yay or nay on: US Code Code : Title 8 : Section 1182--which PROHIBITS ANYONE associated with terrorist activities to enter the US FOR ANY REASON [ EVEN A TRIAL!!!!].
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by weedapoopl May 22, 2009 7:17 PM EDT
Remember, you heard it from Nancy!!!
Posted by vinylogy at 4:12 PM : May 22, 2009

Remember Pelosi promising "the most ethical government ever?"

Ever since, there's been a steady parade of Democrats getting put behind bars.

Blago, Burris, now even employees at the SEC have been caught in illegal stock trading.

Geithner cheated on his taxes.

Is this her idea of "ethical?"

And she's the one who took the podium after election day last year, declaring that we must bail out the auto makers.

Now Chrysler has declared bankruptcy after taking her bailout money, and GM is likely to do the same.

Well, there go billions of dollars that will never get paid back...

Yes, that's spelled P-E-L-O-S-I.
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by vinylogy May 22, 2009 7:12 PM EDT
They (Repuiblicans) got us into this mess in the first place. Obama hasn't been in office long enough to do anything that can't be undone............;) Posted by ToolMangler1
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I guess you forgot Pelosi announcing in January 2007 that :"There's a new sheriff in town". With that statement she officially took responsibility for everything that has happened since then.....the dismal stock market, the skyrocketing unemployment and federal debt, the anemic economy, the faltering basic industries, the expanding wars. That all happened in the time that the Dems and their leader Obama have been in total control.

Remember, you heard it from Nancy!!!
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