May 17, 2009

Bob Gates, America's Secretary Of War

60 Minutes: Secretary Of Defense Robert Gates Talks About Iraq, Afghanistan And His Job

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(CBS)  Gates has more experience in Afghanistan than anyone in the president's inner circle. He was the number two man in the CIA back in the 1980's, sending weapons to the mujahedeen to help them drive out the Russians. Because of that experience he does not want to add additional U.S. troop again next year.

"I was out here 20 years ago when we were fighting the Soviets. The Soviets had 110 to 120,000 troops in this country. They did not care about civilian casualties. And they lost. At some point in this country, the size of the foreign military footprint becomes a hindrance rather than a help. Because we begin to look like occupiers to the Afghans," Gates told Couric.

"Isn't it ironic, though, that the very people the U.S. befriended and armed in the 1980s have morphed into our enemies. What lesson can be learned from that? Be careful who you cozy up to?" Couric asked.

"Or just that history is ironic," Gates replied.

The Taliban and al Qaeda have safe havens in Pakistan's tribal areas in the mountains along the Afghan border. Gates told 60 Minutes it is up to Pakistan to clear those terrorists out.

"We want to try and persuade the Pakistanis of the importance of doing this," Gates explained.

"But the Pakistani army clearly has its hands full right now, fighting the Taliban much closer to its capital. So what are you going to do about these safe havens?" Couric asked.

"We'll just have to keep working with the Pakistanis. These problems aren't going to be solved overnight," he replied.

"But the Pakistan army is still focused on conventional warfare against India. And there are more terrorists per square mile in Pakistan than any place in the world. Do you think that Pakistan's army is capable of neutralizing the Taliban?" Couric asked.

"They can do this. They just need training and probably some different kinds of equipment," Gates replied.

Since 2001, America has given Pakistan's military more than a billion dollars a year. Still, parts of Pakistan's intelligence service support the Taliban in Afghanistan.

"Look, they're maintaining contact with these groups, in my view as a strategic hedge," Gates said. "They are not sure who's going to win in Afghanistan. They're not sure what's going to happen along that border area. So, to a certain extent, they play both sides."

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by DEFarrington May 19, 2009 7:50 AM EDT
I think there is more to Bob Gates than meets the eye. I'd like to hear all of the fairy tales Bob Gates has to tell us. Clearly what the public wants, or expects is completely irrelevant in the eyes of Bob Gates, and I'm sure, others as well. Keeping us in Iraq, or Afghanistan is not a road I would have had the new President take us down. It would appear that the forces keeping US forces in the Middle East, and Afghanistan are bigger than either the President, or Bob Gates. The unremunerative path we're taking will only serve to ruin our countries economy, and destroy the American way of life.
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by nesbitt141 May 18, 2009 3:16 PM EDT
Excellent story by Ms. Couric. Mr. Secretary tells us no fairy tale and no lies. The troops are not coming out Sooner or Later. I believe this is going to be a Minute!!! Thanks--
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by notblue May 18, 2009 11:12 AM EDT
It is never a "lost cause" and must not be "mission impossible" when fighting the greatest evil and threat to all modern, xcvilized, free societies namely RADICAL ISLAM and the barbaric savages that adhere to the extremist ideology.
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by babooph May 18, 2009 8:27 AM EDT
Like Obama,he has been given "mission impossible",seems like the best we have for a lost cause.
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by slagboom May 18, 2009 8:12 AM EDT
It's laughable for Gates to mock Washington when he has been an D.C. insider all of his professional life and has a ton of scandals hanging around his neck from his CIA days! When one is the number two at the CIA there is nothing good about them. Anyone at that level is intrinsically evil and has been responsible for some of the most gruesome and brutal acts on the planet! There was a good reason why Bush chose him as Sec Def!
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by navydog11 June 16, 2009 3:57 PM EDT
slagboom

Jokes about the egos in DC are laughable? C'mon! Gates is right.....I think I detect a DC-sized ego that doesn't like looking in the mirror.
by debbieqd May 18, 2009 7:46 AM EDT
It is amazing how few of the commenters here have gotten the message about why the U.S. needs to remain in Afghanistan. Go online and watch the atom bomb exploding over Heroshima. That could be you in Kansas or North Carolina. The job of a President and a Secretary of Defense is to make sure that doesn't happen -- to you.

It's inconvenient. It's expensive. It costs precious lives. It's not fast. So, one has to ask you, "searingtruth," what good would your economy, fair wages, and constitution do for you if the mushroom cloud lands on your city? You don't think this could "happen to YOU?" Like, YOU won't get cancer? What part of how close the Taliban and al-Qaeda are to Pakistan's nuclear weapons don't you understand?
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by kds562 May 18, 2009 7:28 AM EDT
A Sec Def who doesn't like Wash and politics and cares about the troops - what a refreshing idea (maybe that's why Obama asked him to stay) They know our men and women are flesh and blood, not chess pieces. Cheney/Rummy/Bush lied to get Saddam and sacrificed thousands of lives. Now the Obama admin has to clean up their mess in Afgan.
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by brendett May 18, 2009 7:12 AM EDT
Dear Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense
If the United States had not stuck there nose in the middle east conflict we would not be fighting this war in the first place.
Back in the day we trained Osama bin Laden too fight his war, now he turn on the United States, way too go United States. Who will be next that we will training in the military and they turn on us once again too use it against the United States? darn are we so smart now? Is it another Vietnam war when will we ever learn about other countries you cant not trust them to do what's right there way is not our way.

Now Osama bin Laden is our number one enemy of the United States! WHO'S NEXT THAT WE TRUST FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY? UNTIED STATES GOVERNMENT IS REALLY A BUNCH OF STUPID PEOPLE they don't listen to we the people they just sweep us under a rug and forget us!

SO LONG AS YOU PAY YOUR FEDERAL INCOME TAX TO GOVERNMENT SO THEY CAN BAILOUT EVERYBODY AND FIGHT A WAR OVER OIL !

UNTIED STATES GOVERNMENT WORRIED ABOUT THE UNITED STATES SAFETY MY BEHIND, OUR CIA AND THE GOVERNMENT KNEW THAT 9-11 WAS GOING TO HAPPEN SO THAT PRESIDENT BUSH COULD DECLARED WAR ON TERRORIST!
IF THEY DID KNOW THEN WE NEED TO DISMANTLE THE CIA, RIGHT ALONG WITH THE UNTIED STATES DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IN MY BOOK!!!!! SOMEONE WAS SLEEPING ON THE JOB BACK ON 9-11.
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by cbsnewscomme May 18, 2009 6:26 AM EDT
Why I, an American became a Taliban.....

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/sec-defense-robert-gates-leftover-scab-iran-contra-scandal

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/afghanistan-pakistan-taliban-seek-north-vietnam-military-advisors

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/taliban-squads-reported-kashmir-support-india-troops

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/taliban-are-gods-great-people-voiceforpeace

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/electricity-ends-terror-threat-and-excessive-military-spending
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by nextgenman09 May 18, 2009 5:53 AM EDT
Gates is just OBie's lap dog. He's certainly no Rumsfeld; he doesn't have either the intelligence or the vision. He'll succeed in turning Afghanistan into another failure for America - so the Liberals will have another "victory" for their policy of isolation and appeasement.
Posted by neo267-2009

You are right. Gates is no rumsfeld. Gates cares about the troopes. rumsfeld was part of the bush/chaney criminal enterprise.
Posted by woodjd42 at 2:27 AM : May 18, 2009
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And Rumsfeld was no Secretary of Defense. A complete bungler who lost two wars.
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by woodjd42 May 18, 2009 5:27 AM EDT
Gates is just OBie's lap dog. He's certainly no Rumsfeld; he doesn't have either the intelligence or the vision. He'll succeed in turning Afghanistan into another failure for America - so the Liberals will have another "victory" for their policy of isolation and appeasement.
Posted by neo267-2009

You are right. Gates is no rumsfeld. Gates cares about the troopes. rumsfeld was part of the bush/chaney criminal enterprise.
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by mariahwelch May 18, 2009 3:27 AM EDT
Robert Gates is not President Obama's "yes man" just as he was not G.W. Bush's "yes man". Gates is/was a man with his own mind and his is no angry faker. You put alot out there in cyber but Robert Gates walks the walk.
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by searingtruth May 18, 2009 2:57 AM EDT
"Obama's supporters now consist mainly of those who supported Bush."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by neo267-2009 May 18, 2009 2:29 AM EDT
Gates is just OBie's lap dog. He's certainly no Rumsfeld; he doesn't have either the intelligence or the vision. He'll succeed in turning Afghanistan into another failure for America - so the Liberals will have another "victory" for their policy of isolation and appeasement.
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by searingtruth May 18, 2009 1:34 AM EDT
"There is a battle for good. But we are not fighting it."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by stn_sage May 18, 2009 1:24 AM EDT
Every day that we remain in Afghanistan, lessens the possibility that Mr. Obama will be re-elected to a second term in office!

And, at some point, whether it's this Fall or next Spring---if we're still there---the public will hold HIM accountable for it! It will become HIS war!

At that point---he will have lost the trust of the liberal left and independents to the point that he will never be trusted by them again, nor will they vote for him again, either!
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by budmag06 May 18, 2009 1:08 AM EDT
"Bob Gates, Obama's WEAK Secretary Of War" Obama's "yes" man.
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by searingtruth May 18, 2009 1:00 AM EDT
"One small drop of blood from the innocent.
Horror is often described that way."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by inventagod May 18, 2009 12:49 AM EDT
Propaganda from the Bu$h Crusades...

http://men.style.com/gq/features/topsecret
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by cattiej May 17, 2009 11:41 PM EDT
correction...we are going to have to bring our troops home to protect us from all the countries and people of these countries who Hate America and Americans.
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