Military Lawyers: Release Gitmo Youths

Attorneys Say Obama Administration Obligated Under Child-Soldier Pact To Free Teen Terror Detainees

(CBS/AP)  Military lawyers for two young Guantanamo detainees urged the United States on Wednesday to follow the legally binding protocols it signed in 2002 on child soldiers and release the juveniles now being held at the U.S. military prison in Cuba.

U.S. Navy Cmdr. Walter Ruiz and Marine Maj. Eric Montalvo timed their press conference to a day-long open meeting of the U.N. Security Council on children and armed conflict. They singled out U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice's statement reiterating American opposition to child soldiers and support for council action against those governments and militias that persist in recruiting and using them.

Ruiz said it was important that the United States first acknowledge that "we have issues in our own backyard that we very much need to address ... before we presume to lead the world."

Ruiz represents Omar Khadr, a Canadian who was 14 or 15 when he was accused of killing an American soldier with a grenade during a 2002 battle in Afghanistan. Khadr was the subject of a 60 Minutes story in 2007, in which Bob Simon examined the teenager's unique status as the only minor in modern history to face war crimes charges.

Montalvo represents Mohammed Jawad who is accused of throwing a grenade that injured two American soldiers and their interpreter in Afghanistan in 2002, when he was 16 or 17.

A third juvenile, Mohamed el-Gharani from Chad, who was accused of being a member of al Qaeda in 1998 when he was 11 years old and was arrested in Pakistan at age 14, is also at Guantanamo despite a U.S. judge's order in January for the military to release him, they said.

The Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the involvement of children in armed conflict bans the recruitment of children under the age of 18 and orders states that sign it to demobilize any child soldiers and accord them "all appropriate assistance for their physical and psychological recovery and their social integration."

Ruiz said the United States, as a signatory, has "the responsibility to take people who come into our jurisdiction as child soldiers and help them reintegrate, help them be educated in our society."

"That has basically been ignored by the past administration," he said, but it's now time for President Barack Obama to look at the the United States' obligations under the protocol "and bring us back into compliance."

Obama established an Executive Review Committee which is going over the cases of the remaining Guantanamo detainees, including Khadr and Jawad. It was given 180 days, and at the president's order, prosecutors in Guantanamo sought and won a 120-day freeze on proceedings in pending cases. That freeze expires on May 20.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday that about 30 detainees have been cleared for release from Guantanamo Bay. Holder met with reporters in Germany ahead of a speech appealing for Europe's help to close the U.S. military detention facility.

Montalvo accused the U.S. government of "breaking the law to go after these (young) people."

"They need to stop," he said. "They need to go back and look at what they're doing and say, `are we following the law'?"

Montalvo said children under 18 don't have the maturity and capacity to understand the consequences of their actions which is why child soldiers don't understand mortality in the same way as adults. "So even if these children did do everything that the government said that they did, they are a child at that time," he said.

"They were dropped on an island, shackled, hooded," Ruiz added. "They were approached by dogs. They were kept awake. It took 2 1/2 to 3 years for the guys on Guantanamo to even talk to an attorney."

Last week, a Canadian court ruled that the government must ask the U.S. to return Khadr to Canada but the government later said it has 30 days to decide on an appeal. Prime Minister Stephen Harper has refused to get involved in Khadr's case, saying the U.S. legal process has to play itself out.

Ruiz said Khadr "has been denied for years the protections that should have been afforded to somebody the age of 15 who came into hands of the armed forces."

"He has been held for years without being segregated from adults, ... without any possibilities for education, reeducation, or anything that would provide him the ability to reintegrate," Ruiz said. "Given that track record, given seven years of basically languishing in that prison on that island, our position is he ought not to be prosecuted."

The 10 minutes of video - selected by Khadr's Canadian lawyers from more than seven hours of footage recorded by a camera hidden in a vent - was released in July 2008. It provided the first glimpse of interrogations at the U.S. military prison. The video showed Khadr weeping, his face buried in his hands, as he is questioned by Canadian intelligence agents over four days in 2003. His lawyers hoped to pressure Canada into seeking Khadr's return with the video, but the government's position was unchanged.

Khadr's case was interrupted by Obama's review process. Ruiz said he was informed on Tuesday that the judge will resume it on June 1 unless the administration intervenes. The defense is asking the U.S. to send him home immediately, Ruiz said.

Montalvo said a judge ruled that Jawad had been tortured, and the lead prosecutor had resigned over the military prosecution system, saying Jawad should not be prosecuted because he was a child.

"He's been incarcerated since he was approximately 16 years old," Montalvo said. "He was taken off the streets of Afghanistan and thrown into cages and held there up until now, and he's still not adjudicated."

"We want to get him out of a cage and put him back into a society with his family and rehabilitate him," he said.

[paddyhayes]

"These teens are terrorist and should not be released."

Of course they are terrorists! They must be, right? Otherwise they'd not be in Gitmo.

It sure is good we pitched the Great Writ. Now anyone we say is a terrorist can be a terrorist.

[fcs25]

The Obama administration is staffed with complete fools.These teens are terrorist and should not be released.They need a bullet in the head instead.

[babooph]

All the idiots who whined about the pirates being murdered teenagers had been so silent about all the gitmo 14 year olds & the assassination of Sadams 14 year old grandson-no call has been made to stop the US military signing up teenagers -all a bunch of total phoneys.

[dtjump1]

These kids were combatants when captured. They are in effect POW's - they'll need to be treated accordingly. The Bush Administration was charged first and foremost with protecting the United States.

One of the kids - the Canadian kid - comes from a family of al Qaeda operatives. Note that Canada isn't too anxious to have him back. He goes back to Canada and returns to what he was doing before he was captured.

[hamiltongrad]

Alabama Joe - get help. up your thorazine.

[hamiltongrad]

Pakistan is using planes, tanks, heavy military and even satelittes to bomb the insurgents of the Taliban, who in contrast are using home made weapons and home made rockets. This is gross Disproportionate use of FORCE !
Why is this not an issue here, but is any time Israel attempts to defend its people from crazy Islamic Hamas ?
Why ?
Pretty soon the media savy Taliban, if they were, would be parading the dead children before the CBS and BBC cameras, wailing and holding mock funerals for the media.
The plight of the TAlibanians..... they just need better PR.

Hamas and the Taliban are the same terrorists.

[middleman8]

Come on now, use your heads (if u have one ) If these kids had been Merican kids the country would have given them medals and wrote songs about them.
If these dead and wounded troops had stayed home in their own country they would not have become casualties.

[inventagod]

The Bu$h administration used Gitmo and Osama as smokescreens for what really happened on 9/11.
Get DlCK CHENEY under oath... What were those seven concurrent war games about?

[McHineguy]

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So either way, Bush is at fault. Do not try to push this one onto the current administration.
Posted by gramto8 at 7:50 AM : Apr 30, 2009

Yeah, right, here we go again: "Bush is at fault". All because he went into Iraq and should have stayed in Afghanistan. LISTEN UP!!! READ THE ARTICLE!!! Ill help you:

1. "Omar Khadr, a Canadian who was 14 or 15 when he was accused of killing an American soldier with a grenade during a 2002 battle in Afghanistan"
2. "Mohammed Jawad who is accused of throwing a grenade that injured two American soldiers and their interpreter in Afghanistan in 2002, when he was 16 or 17"

Both of these "kids" were captured on the battlefield in AFGHANISTAN!!! They were captured after killing and/or wounding Americans. In one case it included an INTERPRETER. Did you wonder what an interpreter was doing on a battlefield? Or did you reach the obvious conclusion, they werent in battle?

Did you reach the other obvious conclusion? After killing and/or wounding american soldiers they were captured, not killed, were sent to America even though they were obviously not able to provide deep secrets (they are KIDS). Think before your hate and anger clouds the last remnants of your judgement. Its obvious that American soldiers saw these two as kids on the Afghanistan battlefront and chose to treat them as kids, not compbatants, even though THEY HAD KILLED AND WOULNDED AMERICANS.

Its ok to not like the Bush style of leadership, I didnt either. But our country deserves better than this self serving hate driven decision making on the other side.

[gramto8]

Posted by hamiltongrad at 7:49 AM : Apr 30, 2009

Nice try, grad, but it doesn't even compare to the Palestinian conflict. The Taliban are terrorizing their own countrymen and fellow Muslims. They are not taking land from someone else. They beat females for being...... just for being alive, being there, being human, being anything. Don't even try to push this as a Palestinian equal.

[gramto8]

Military Lawyers: Release Gitmo Youths
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I am ALL for that.
Just release them without their heads.
Posted by TheMasses03 at 7:21 AM : Apr 30, 2009

Oh really? Where do you suggest that they be released, these YOUTH who have been indoctrinated in terrorism? Their own families don't even want them, their countries don't want them, NOBODY wants them released anywhere near them? They've already murdered, why should they ever be released? What kind of MORONIC guilt trip are you trying out now to put on people when these young TERRORISTS got their arse in a crack for being freaking terrorists?
Posted by Rowdy108 at 3:38 AM : Apr 30, 2009


Did either of you two happen to notice the DATE of the protocols mentioned in the article? From the article:

legally binding protocols it signed in 2002 on child soldiers and release the juveniles now being held at the U.S. military prison in Cuba.

I do believe that 2002 would be during your Fuhrer Bush's reign.. He is the only one you should be upset with. If he hadn't started the illegal war in Iraq to get back at Saddam and steal the oil instead of doing as he had said in September of 2001 and gone for the ones who caused those buildings to fall, the young ones in Gitmo wouldn't be a problem as they probably wouldn't be there. Even if they had been caught, if he had followed the protocols that BUSH signed the US up with, the youngsters would not have been in Gitmo this long. So either way, Bush is at fault. Do not try to push this one onto the current administration.

[hamiltongrad]

is the war over ? Did they win ??

HELP ! THE PLIGHT OF THE TALIBANIANS



The world cringes as more violence erupts against the insurgent Taliban. A rag tagged group of locals, with home made weapons and fire power no match for the US supported Pakistani army.

"This disproportionate use of FORCE against a group of indigenous Muslims must stop." Demanded Peace leaders, in a historic signed statement, from the world capstone of ideas, universities and KPFK radio station, marching in solidarity with grassroots peace activists, from NYC West Side and LA's Malibu community .

By UN count, the peace lovingTaliban insurgents have lost over 2500 people including 699 children and 1888 women, all pregnant. The Pakistan Army reports no deaths, and only minor injury to one male soldier during staffing of a Taliban school for girls, during prayer, at mid day, and also during a funeral, at mid day.

"The land in dispute must be given to the historical rightful peoples." Taliban leaders pleaded for help and support in their peaceful quest for justice. " What kind of people would allow these army thugs to take away their heritage lands. My grand father once had relations with a goat on this very hill." Cried Alfonla Bur Yupmysssa. Others just wailed and climbed over a wreck of a car, looking for white chicklets.

The international community will be hosting a special DERBIN session next week , to focus on the PLIGHT OF THE TALIBINiaNS..

WHEN WILL THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE END ? CAN it HALT ITSELF AND SET ITSELF UPRIGHT ?
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[drputt45]

WTH, turn them loose, give them their weapons back and deposit them in one of those countries that loves these guys, then shoot them. Case closed.

[bashdj]

I'm confused. Is it not a war over there? In a war you shoot at them...they shoot at you. (or throw grenades or shoot Hellfire missiles....whatever)
How can this boy be charged and mistreated under those circumstances.
Did we charge every German or Japanese soldier who killed an allied soldier....no....they were prisoners of war and treated according to the Geneva convention (mostly)
We charged the enemy with war crimes if those crimes were commited.

My deepest condolences go out to the families of every soldier killed (and wounded)
including hundreds of Canadians, British and other allies lost in Afghanistan. Every loss is a tragedy. But to charge this boy with killing an American soldier during a firefight? Is that realistic when it is a humans instinct to defend himself when threatened in the heat of combat. And nobody even saw him throw the grenade.

And where is Prime Minister Stephen Harper? The Canadian government should be stepping in to protect this boys rights...enemy combatant or not. Perhaps Harper is just doing too many Fox News interviews and it just wouldn't look good if he actually did his job.
(Like the Canadian Supreme court has ordered him to now)

One last note. This war would have been over long ago if Bush and company had put the 150,000 troops into Afghanistan and took care of who really perpetrated 9-11 rather than go on his little folly into Iraq that has caused so much devastation to so many American and Iragi families. But of course....Saddam tried to "kill his daddy"

How many "daddys" did you kill Mr Bush? Perhaps you should be the one in Gitmo.