Flu Hits 17 States; 300 Schools Close

N1H1 Virus Caseload Tops 100 As Authorities Pledge To Produce Enough Vaccine For Everyone

(CBS/ AP)  Nearly 300 schools scattered around the country closed as the nation's N1H1 flu caseload passed 100 Thursday, and U.S. authorities pledged to eventually produce enough vaccine for everyone - but said shots couldn't begin until fall at the earliest.

The outbreak of the disease, also referred to as swine flu, penetrated over a dozen states and even touched the White House, which disclosed that an aide to Energy Secretary Steven Chu apparently got sick helping arrange President Barack Obama's recent trip to Mexico but that the aide did not fly on Air Force One and never posed a risk to the president.

An estimated 12,000 people logged onto a Webcast where the government's top emergency officials sought to cut confusion by answering questions straight from the public: Can a factory worker handling parts from Mexico catch the virus? No. Can pets get it? No.

And is washing hands or using those alcohol-based hand gels best? Washing well enough is the real issue, answered Dr. Richard Besser, acting chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He keeps hand gel in his pocket for between-washings but also suggested that people sing "Happy Birthday" as they wash their hands to make sure they've washed long enough to get rid of germs.

People should not be taking anti-viral medications like Tamiflu as a preventive measure, says CBS News medical correspondent Dr. Jennifer Ashton.

"People have to remember, to be clear, this is a prescription medication, that really should be given under the guidance or supervision of a doctor and really is the most effective when you already start to have symptoms if taken in the first 24-48 hours," Ashton told CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric.

It is safe to fly, U.S. officials found themselves stressing after Vice President Joe Biden got off message Thursday. Biden said he'd discourage family members from flying or even taking the subway. The White House insisted the vice president meant to say he was discouraging just nonessential travel to Mexico, the hardest-hit area.

"It is safe to fly. There is no reason to cancel flights," Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said. Not just planes but "all modes of transportation are safe in America," he added.

But anyone with flu-like symptoms shouldn't be traveling anywhere unless they need to seek medical care - the same advice that doctors give during the winter when regular flu kills 36,000 Americans each year.

"If you're ill, you shouldn't get on an airplane or any public transport to travel," CDC's Dr. Anne Schuchat told a congressional hearing. "If you're sick, stay home. I can't tell you how many times I've said that this week."

So far U.S. cases are fairly mild for the most part, with one death, a Mexican toddler who visited Texas with his family - unlike in Mexico where more than 160 suspected deaths have been reported. In fact, Schuchat said most of the U.S. cases so far didn't need a doctor's care.

Still, the U.S. is taking extraordinary precautions, including shipping millions of doses of anti-flu drugs to states in case they're needed against what the World Health Organization has called an imminent pandemic, because scientists cannot predict what a brand-new virus might do. A key concern is whether this spring outbreak will resurge in the fall.

Remember, CDC's Besser cautioned, not every pandemic is like the disaster of 1918. "There are some pandemics that look very much like a bad flu season," he said.

Scientists are racing to prepare the key ingredient to make a vaccine against the never-before-seen flu strain, but it will take several months before the first pilot lots begin required human testing to make sure the vaccine is safe and effective. If all goes well, broader production could start in the fall.

"We think 600 million doses is achievable in a six-month time frame" from that fall start, Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary Craig Vanderwagen told lawmakers.

"I don't want anybody to have false expectations. The science is challenging here," Vanderwagen told reporters. "Production can be done, robust production capacity is there. It's a question of can we get the science worked on the specifics of this vaccine."

The number of closed schools more than doubled overnight to nearly 300 when the Fort Worth Independent School District in Texas announced it was closing its 140 schools, affecting about 80,000 students.

"I don't know if anyone wants to come out and say we're severely over-reacting and then something tragic happens to a child," one parent, Whitney Brown, told CBS News correspondent Nancy Cordes.

That's the dilemma plaguing educators nationwide now that nearly every state has confirmed or suspected cases. It's complicated by the fact that scientists still aren't sure just how dangerous this flu is, Cordes adds.

High schools sports were suspended in Texas and Alabama.

"We do think it's very prudent to close schools when a case has been confirmed or is highly suspect," CDC's Schuchat told lawmakers Thursday.

But closing a school alone won't stop community spread.

"If a school is closed, it's not closed so kids can go out to the mall or go out to the community at large," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said. "Keep your young ones at home."

That means businesses will have to handle parents who miss work, Biden reiterated: "And the hope is that the employers will be generous in terms of how they treat that employee's necessary action of taking that child home and not being at work."

The CDC confirmed 109 cases Thursday, and state officials confirm 22 more. Cases now are confirmed in: New York, Texas, California, South Carolina, Kansas, Massachusetts, Indiana, Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, Delaware, Maine, Colorado, Georgia and Minnesota.

[mjinba07]

Want to understand something about our vulnerability to new strains of swine flu? Check out (TV nonfiction) This American Life, Season 1, Episode 6 - "Pandora's Box"

Gives an up close and personal look at how pork is produced for us. Lots of precautions taken with the pigs, but the scale of operations in the U.S. and the lack of immunity in the pigs now is a disaster waiting to happen. It's pure coincidence that this recent outbreak started in Mexico, we're every bit as vulnerable if not more so.

[reimer211]

Oooh it's a big conspiracy! The right wing will clutch at any little straw to advance their hateful, obstructionist reactionary agenda. And now of course, illegal immigration caused the flu! Guess what you morons, we were overdue for a possible pandemic. Bigots.

[blog_fever2]

It was said that there would be an African-American President only when pigs fly. 100 days into the presidency, swine flu. Coincidence? I think not.

[rrozsa]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the whole "epidemic" will have had time to sweep through the entire country, possibly even the whole world, by this fall? What good will it due to introduce a vaccine for a disease that has run its course and everyone is over it already? (Except for those that died from it)
Posted by bornin1952 at 8:08 AM : May 1, 2009

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Just wash your hands frequently, and try to keep your fingers away from your eyes, nose and mouth. You can probably survive till fall.

[ubrew12]

creeper00 said: "Do you realize more people died falling out of bed last night than from the flu? People keep asking if this is really as serious as it's being painted. To me, the question is not "Are we being scammed?" The question is "Why?" "

36,000 Americans die each year from the flu bug you catch every year. You body is chock full of antibodies to this bug, and it still kills 36000 of you each year. Now, here comes a bug, just as lethal, that you have NO ANTIBODIES TO. You're body is DEFENSELESS against this, and it'll definitely kill you before your body figures out how to fight it.

Worse, unlike the SARS virus or the AIDS virus, it travels airborne!! One person coughs, and 10 people come down with it, like the regular flu. So one person can infect 10, and the next DAY its 100, and the next day 1000, and the next day 10000, and the next day 100000, and the next day 1000000. And, on the seventh day its essentially everyone in the nation, unless we take precautions to avoid transmission. In that hellish case, NO ONE GETS TREATED, because EVERYONE IS SICK SIMULTANEOUSLY. The treatments run out, the hospitals fill up or close. And in that case, people would die by the thousands.

So, prevention of transmission is essential right now, to buy time for them to develop a vaccine, manufacture more Tamiflu, and generally figure out a way to beat this thing.

Yet, efforts to prevent transmission is the VERY THING you're laughing about. Efforts to prevent transmission is just more evidence of BIG GOVERNMENT killing the freedom of the people. Look, we tried small government. The result was called Katrina.

[whatisit21]

The US has always played with peoples emotions. If they took this virus serious, they would close the border.

[creeper00]

Do you realize more people died falling out of bed last night than from the flu? People keep asking if this is really as serious as it's being painted. To me, the question is not "Are we being scammed?" The question is "Why?"

[pepperwood2]

Swine Flu Is Bad, But Panic Is Dangerous........Now we all know that, as the world's most brilliant SOS would say is, that this is just another right-wing conspiracy.

The American People are encouraged to go about their work spending, and running up their personal debts to pay off our National Debt that the Left Wing got us into. BUY more Trash with more Cash to pollute the Planet & bring about this deadly GW plaque that is taking over. So Sad but that's OK though.

Biden is the only one with any common sense.

[eiddam]

Perhaps I stand alone,, but I believe when an animal, bird, or foreigner is blamed, than the virus was man made in places like Fort Detrick. Another fear tactic, continued on from the old regime, and as people suffer, the Pharmaceutical Companies become wealthy. The WHO keeps compaining about over-population. Remember all the Virus 's we had in the old regime? Also, I wonder if the US and Israel plan to use this as Genocide against the Middle East,- especially Iran, OR - to BLAME the Arabs, to create the war Israel is pushing for?

[slantedview]

Shame, shame, shame on the media and the government for over-reporting and perpetuating mass hysteria about this type of flu by predicting it will become a pandemic and scaring the hell out of everyone by playing on their fears.

The people who are dying do not have access to health care or even over the counter medicines. You might die too if you had to ride a bus 40 miles to see a doctor who could not treat you because you could not afford the medicine to lessen the impact of a fever.

You don't get this from pigs and a mask will not protect you. The already infirmed, very young or very old are at the most risk from this... just like any other type of flu.

Read to be informed, use some common sense and don't panic. Running around shouting "the sky is falling" won't help anyone.

By the way: There has been one reported case of swine flu in Indiana and it was about two months ago. Why has this now also become a statistic for the current swine flu outbreak? Shame on the media.

[searingtruth]

I must rest now fellow citizens. Goodnight, and keep you and your loved ones well.
ST


"As the water breached to fill our lungs the voice of the yeomen still rang piercing and hollow upon our ears.
'There is nothing to fear. All is well.'"
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[k9insky]

Hoard your bread, we're all gonna die!

[clancy49]

I have not read anywhere that it says this flu will kill you. You get the flu. Any flu can kill you if allow dehydration and do not try to control a fever. Any flu could turn into pneumonia which left unchecked can kill you. The flu is a flu. It is as dangerous as you allow it to be. Going into panic is far more dangerous. Next week we won't even hear about it. In the meantime the administration pours a billion dollars into Pharmaceutical companies that will create a vaccine-again too litttle too late- and charge us a fortune for the injection. It is a win win situation for the Pharmaceutical companies. They double dip just like the car companies -who by the way have eliminated their work force and crushed unions regardless of the bailout money- and the banks that loan at 30% and pay back our stolen wall street money bailout at 1%. When is this country going to wake up and realize that Republican and Democrat politicians are all about the greedy and nothing to do with the people? We the American people are being manipulated and enslaved.

[searingtruth]

"the USA has about 300+ million people, so would think that 200 cases of swine flu does not a pandemic make...."
longtree-2009


Fellow citizen longtree-2009, the US typically has two or three cases of swine flu a year.

So 200 in a few weeks is indeed alarming, and demands great precaution.

That is why the WHO and CDC have declared a pandemic.

The virus we face is extremely unusual, and its like has not been seen since the 1918-1919 Spanish flu pandemic which killed at least 20 million, with some estimates as high as 40 million.

And the way it kills is also unusual, by commanding mature immune systems to flood our bodies with so many toxins that in the end, our own immune systems kill us.

This is why we see few deaths among the young and old, because their immune systems are either to inexperienced or debilitated by age to be effective.

We are at the beginning of what could be another horrific devastation of humankind, and if we wait until all those around us are dropping dead like flies, as many believe they must see before becoming concerned, it will be far too late to do anything to limit its virulence.

That is why so many are raising the alarm, and trying to stop this contagion before we are simply at its mercy, which of course, it does not have.
ST


"Please.
Protect the innocent."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[longtree-2009]

the USA has about 300+ million people, so would think that 200 cases of swine flu does not a pandemic make. Mexico has about 111+ people and there 450, i think, cases of swine flu does not a pandemic make either. take precautions like normal flu season. if you are ill stay home even if you think it's a cold, err on the side of caution. simple really. it is not a pandemic by any stretch of the imagination. if people don't take precautions, then it could turn into a pandemic but that means it would be over a wide geographic area affecting an exceptionally high proportion of the population. right now, the drama queens are out frightening the blazes out of everyone.

[searingtruth]

"But our problem is that we don't know who has it, until they have infected an untold number who surround and interact with them.
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Then we test everyone for it.

You got it.....you get the quarantine....and the rest of us live free.

It's pretty simple."
snarkysnark


Fellow citizen snarkysnark, this is an impractical solution.

For we do not have enough test kits for hundreds of millions of Americans.

And the testing itself would demand that many gather at test sites, implicitly spreading the contagion we fight.
ST


"A whisper of horror.
That's all we could hear."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[searingtruth]

"Stop falling for the Governments fear mongering tactics...."
Posted by wardoglrs at 12:37 AM : May 1, 2009


Fellow citizen wardoglrs, the government does not fill me with fear.

A pandemic disease, asymptotically spread, does.

Everything that occurs upon this earth is not a government conspiracy.

Sometimes it is simply the brutal and dispassionate hand of nature that threatens us.

As it does today.
ST


"People will believe in almost anything, except reality."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[wardoglrs]

Keep the people frightened
Of things they cannot know
Is the secret of the Tomb

If they knew what you and I know
They would know it is just men
Who rob them, cheat them, kill them
Then start it all again
- Orville X

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." Patrick Henry

Emergencies? have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded.F.A. Hayek

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. Franklin D. Roosevelt, Father of the Welfare State

The problems we face today cannot be solved by the minds that created them Albert Einstein

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master... George Washington

[wardoglrs]

Stop falling for the Governments fear mongering tactics. "The great masses of the people at the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously evil ... they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big."-- Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, Houghton Mifflin, 1971; (original version 1925) vol 1. chapter 10, p231

"This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people?s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation?s Christian heritage. Dr. Ron Paul


Capitalists can exploit you only with your permission: by trading with you, selling to you, asking you to sell out.


Government exploits you at the point of a gun.As long as you limit the power of the latter, the former can only exploit by providing better products, services and options. if they collude, then all bets are off. But that is a problem with government--in that case fascism--not capitalism.

[searingtruth]

"Closing schools and public gathering places all across the county?

You're doing it backwards.

You need to quarantine all the people who have it, instead of punishing all the people who don't have it."
snarkysnark


Fellow citizen snarkysnark I understand your sentiment.

But our problem is that we don't know who has it, until they have infected an untold number who surround and interact with them.

For this flu is spread asymptomatically, which means that it is spread by the infected before they themselves display or feel any symptoms. The most recognized historical analog is Typhoid Mary, who spread disease despite the fact that she had no symptoms, and in fact never suffered the effects of the contagion herself.

We do not yet know if there are those who do not suffer the effects of contagion, but we do know that they spread it asymptomatically, for one to three days before becoming ill themselves.

I do not advocate prophylactic social distancing lightly, for I know its expense. I advocate it only because it is the only way to stop the spread of a pandemic disease where the infected themselves do not display symptoms until it is too late to stop its transfer.
ST


"Some have thought ahead, in sake of us all, and are therefore prepared."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave