Reeducating Osama Bin Laden's Disciples

60 Minutes: Saudi Government Tries To Rehabilitate Former Guantanamo Prisoners, Jihadists

(CBS)  President Obama has ordered the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay closed and his new administration is close to figuring out what to do with the 240 inmates still held there. Some, like Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self proclaimed mastermind of 9/11, will undoubtedly be put on trial for their lives.

But more than half the so-called detainees will probably never go before a jury because the U.S. government does not have a case that will stand up in court. So what happens when a prisoner is set free from Guantanamo?

As correspondent David Martin reports for 60 Minutes, more than 500 prisoners were released during the Bush administration and one of the largest contingents was from Saudi Arabia.

So 60 Minutes went to Saudi Arabia to see what happens when these young men come home to the country that gave us Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers. What 60 Minutes found is a rehabilitation program that attempts to make solid citizens out of holy warriors by convincing them bin Laden has it all wrong.

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Each time the United States releases Saudis from Guantanamo, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia dispatches a Boeing 747 to Cuba to pick them up. It's all done in secret but 60 Minutes obtained footage from the Saudis documenting the trip home.

The prisoners step onto the aircraft slightly dazed, their shackles and blindfolds having just been removed. On the long flight home they are checked out by a medical team and logged into the Saudi legal system. So far, 117 Saudi men swept up in Afghanistan and Pakistan in the months after 9/11 have come home from Guantanamo.

One of them, Khalid al Jhani, was once a disciple of Osama bin Laden. "I've been involved in this jihad thing since I was young. I was believing that I have to help the Muslims and this the right way to do - to perform jihad," he told Martin.

Jhani first went to Afghanistan in the 1990s and was with bin Laden in the Tora Bora Mountains during al Qaeda's last stand against the Americans.

Jhani said he even met bin Laden at Tora Bora; he also told Martin bin Laden left Afghanistan one day before he left the region himself.

That experience left him with an entirely different opinion of bin Laden. "He said 'Well, I'm not going to let you down and you are not going to let us down.' But I saw that in Tora Bora that when he left, so he left everybody behind him, you know," Jhani explained.

"He changes his story," Martin remarked.

"I call him 'flip flop,'" Jhani replied, laughing.

Jhani was captured in Pakistan and ended up in Guantanamo with hundreds of other so-called enemy combatants. Four years later he went home to Saudi Arabia, where he became a prime example of how the government treats one-time holy warriors it no longer considers a threat.

"After one month they call me and said 'Ok - go on, get your car.' I said car? Okay," he told Martin. "All the people that [have] been released from Guantanamo, they give them car to you know, to help them get in the society."

Then he met personally with Prince Mohammed bin Nayif, the head of Saudi Internal Security, roughly the equivalent in the U.S. of an ex-con sitting down with the director of the FBI.

"I went to his office and said I want to get married. He said 'Okay, about how much is going to cost and we'll take care of it,'" Jhani recalled.

Not only did they give him a car and gave him money for his wedding, the government was also going to pay for his house, Jhani told Martin.

A top aide to Prince Nayif, Major General Yousef Mansour, says the money, which adds up to tens of million of dollars for all the former prisoners, is not a hand out but a hand up.

"We want to keep him busy," Mansour said.

"These are people the United States called the worst of the worst," Martin pointed out. "Why would you trust the worst of the worst?"

"Those, after all, are our kids," Mansour replied. "And are you gonna let them stay in jails forever?"

Some Saudis have been in Guantanamo for seven years and Dr. Abdul Rahman al Hadlaq believes the longer a man is held there the harder he is to treat.

"They come out of Guantanamo hating Americans?" Martin asked.

"In the beginning yes. In the beginning yes," Dr. Hadlaq replied.

Asked if there is evidence that Guantanamo has made these men more radical, Hadlaq told Martin, "I think so, yes. Because, in their journey you know from Afghanistan to Guantanamo, they faced a lot of torturing. It's so important to deal with this issue of torture. They really need rehabilitation. And I think will have been successful in easing this anger, which is so important."

Torture of course is a loaded word, but at the very least the treatment en route to Guantanamo was rough and provided the raw material for al Qaeda propaganda videos to drum up new recruits.

"They are trying to play on the emotions of those young guys, to let them get very angry and say 'We want to do something.' Then those al Qaeda guys, they will tell them, 'We have the answer. We will help you. Let's put your hand in our hand and do something to protect our brothers and sisters and our Muslim women,'" Hadlaq explained.

[babooph]

Let's try & re educate the Bush followers 1st.

[sdesgrou95030]

So called "terrorist". Are you kidding me? Where did you get your journalistic degree, Obama school for left-wing news casters? Why don't you journalist start feeling some bit of sympathy for the victims of 9/11 instead of the terrorist who took 5,000 innocent American lives? I can understand why Obama sympathizes with them, after all he has never hidden his love for the middle east, but if you are going to do a story, please don't insult the American intelligence by trying to portray these terrorist as victims. THEY ARE TERRORIST, AND IF THEY HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE IN GITMO, GOOD!!!! I COULD CARE LESS IF THEY HAVE THEIR BONES BROKEN, THEIR NAILS TORN OUT, OR HOOKED UP TO A DIE HARD BATTERY, IF IT SAVED ONE AMERICAN LIFE. WHY DON'T YOU AND THE REST OF YOUR LEFT WING NUT CASES CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? INSTEAD YOU WORRY AND HAVE SYMPATHY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE IT THEIR LIFE LONG GOAL TO KILL AMERICANS. MY ONLY HOPE IS THAT WHEN THEY ATTACK US AGAIN, AND THEY WILL THAT THEY GET AS MANY LIBERALS AS THEY CAN GET, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONES WHO WANT TO GIVE THEM THEIR FREEDOM, AND THEIR RIGHTS, SO THEY CAN GO OUT AND KILL AGAIN. YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!!!

[tmittelstaed]

It is fascinating how these Muslims are using the very techniques advocated by Christ in dealing with your enemies and having so much success with them. A 10% recidivism rate is an incredible success. The US recidivism rate from US prisons is around 60%

[impeachbhb]

Obama can use some of our stimulus funds to help these poor political prisoners establish a life in the US. A bribe of a few million dollars should help keep them from wanting to attack us again.
Maybe he can work out a payola deal with Osama to keep us safe.

Obama is the reincarnation of Jimmy Carter and we will pay the price before his term is over. Terrorists will run all over wimps.

[growlll]

Wow, what a negative nazi attitude from the left there.

[dragn29]

is ok pythoncharlie i'll kill a few of them just for you while i am in afganistan or iraq.

[dsr57]

I always wonder why most of the posters here liken the religious to whites. The most religious people in america are Latinos and the black population

[dragn29]

WE NEED TO ROUND UP THE CONSERVATIVES AND GET THEM RE-EDUCATED,

SOME OF THEM STILL THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT AND THAT GW BUSH WAS HONEST,

THE REPUBLICON PARTY HAS BECOME THE ENEMY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,

EXTREMIST NAZI's


yep, sound like the liberal has went extremist nazi to me.

[debinok1]

Still sounds more like rewards than re-education to me. Houses, cars, and expensive weddings. That is not re-education that is a bonus.

[dkhorse11]

Reeducating Osama Bin Laden's Disciples.

I say reeducate with a Predator drone overhead.

For all the bleeding hearts say we made them into terrorists because of their treatment, well I guess they are now terrorists, and we need to take them out.

[pugster]

Rehabilitating prisoners to civilian life... too bad they don't practice it here.

[nishnash20]

cant believe this,if these detainees(in saudi) are given all this luxury the cars,homes and education etc ..then why cant we give the same treatment to our inmates look at our prisons..and mental health facilities ......yet we preach human rights to other countries
by the way whats the crime rate in saudi. (activities not related to terrorism)

[dkhorse11]

NO, but some real benefits from such wealthy employers as the Waltons might be beneficial for America, since the taxpayers are SUBSIDIZING the WALLYWORLD workers with food stamps, Medicaid, heating subsidies, etc...etc...etc....

Not to mention the huge subsidies that cities give the Waltons for bringing such a wonderful anti-American business to their fair city, by removing all their taxes so that the taxpayers have to pay more!

they are talking about you fools
Posted by pythoncharly at 10:06 AM : May 4, 2009

This is a post about reeducating terrorists, and you are talking about Walmart? See what I mean about your absurd logic? You're not even close to the subject at hand.

I'm sure you're a nice guy in person...(maybe?), but that doesn't work when you have to type your thoughts onto posts on the Net. Slow down, get a grip, and try again.

[aircanart]

It seems Pythoncharly doesn?t lack from MSM reeducation or indoctrination. Moron!

[dkhorse11]

pythoncharly,

Nobody takes you serious, if anyone reads your crap it's like rubbernecking an accident scene. Your logic is absurd, you don't convey your ideas intelligently, basically you come across like a psychotic loon.

If you want people to even think of listening to you, you need a COMPLETELY different approach (I SHOULD USE ALL CAPS SO YOU UNDERSTAND).

[j_mack5]

Why rehabilitate disciples of Osama bin Laden when you can let them go like Obama-Clinton wants to do with the world's most ruthless terror group?

Amnesty to Osama Bin Laden thanks to Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton: Will Obama give amnesty to Osama Bin Laden or Taliban's Mullah Mohamed? Why not, since he wants amnesty for the world's most ruthless terror group. Obama administration and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is working to save the Tamil Tiger terrorists. The front organizations for these terrorists financed Obama's and Clinton's presidential campaigns. Research TRO, Tamil Foundation and Tamils for Obama - all fronts for the Tiger terrorists and you'll find their terror links and associations to the current US administration.

Obama illegally takes donations from Tamil Tiger leader
http://www.nopc.info/forum/showthread.php?t=32479

The US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wants a ceasefire for the LTTE terrorists that will enable the Tamil terrorists to recruit more civilians from their hostages, rearm and return with more terror attacks on civilians.

The same Tamil Tiger terrorists purchased politicians in the UK, France and Sweden to force Sri Lanka into a cease-fire that will enable these barbaric terrorists to survive. Tthe British Foreign Secretary David Miliband and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner went to Sri Lanka to shed crocodile tears and show their LTTE voting block back home that they are doing everything possible to save terror!

Today, the Tamil Tiger Terrorists are using tens of thousands of locals as human shields. We need to do everything possible to eliminate these terrorists. The world will be a much better place when these LTTE terrorists are gone.

Thank god that the Sri Lankan government is wise and brave enough to work towards bringing lasting peace by eliminating the Tiger terrorists for good.

One man's terrorist is another man's voting block
http://www.sinhala.net/LocalNews/SinhalaNet_Full_News.asp?ID=4869#NewsViewBM

[babooph]

Almost 20% of US voters still have not been able to be "re-educated" -should we start with these?

[jckbrn-2009]

Is "education" possible in order to avoid "re-education" - - Maybe lots of innocent folks would still be alive if there was a mental preparation for less "hate" - - maybe offspring should be taught more about a "world" instead of "kill" who you don't like.
Give 'em a job, house, car, and anything else they think they need because they were hatched into existence and maybe they won't get involved in terrorism - -
Geeze - -

[edward1975-2009]

In Saudi Arabia this translates to, knock the freaking stuff off or we'll behead ya.

[clearthinking]

FIVE THINGS THIS STORY TELLS US:

1 Under pressure from the US (and partly to protect its own interests), the Saudi govt has obviously implemented a somewhat faux rehab program for reasons of spin and propaganda.

2. The recidivism rate of the rehab program (10%) is obviously deflated, and how can any statisics be valid since the rehab program is so recent???

3. Americans are naive if they believe tough Muslim jihadists will "see the light" anytime soon (or ever)--and "anger management" hardly gets at the root of their pathological hatred of Americans for meddling in their economic and societal affairs over many years (especially oil and military bases).

4. Whabbism and Sharia law clearly are radical forms of Islam that oppress women and encourage violence against infidels toward the the joint goals of religious conversion and the dissemination of fundamentalism. The extremists are certainly to be feared--let's hope they never get well entrenched in the Western hemisphere..

5. It is ludicrous to think that making "ex"-jihadists consumptive consumers (by giving them cars, houses etc.) will "neuter" them--it may even allow them to fund more radical groups clandestinely. Here is the U.S. we've been consumptive consumers so long we're spoiled, and unlikely to foment rebellions the jihadists still have plenty of receptivity toward.

It is sad (and scary) that this planet can be occupied by human beings/**** sapiens who, through their institutions and training, can be so antagonistic toward each other that their goals are likely to (eventually) achieve mutual self destruction. But there you have it.