April 21, 2009

Gates: Cyber Attacks A Constant Threat

Defense Secretary Responds To Report That Hackers Stole Info About $300 Billion Fighter Jet Program

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(CBS)  Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Tuesday that the United States is "under cyber-attack virtually all the time, every day" and that the Defense Department plans to more than quadruple the number of cyber experts it employs to ward off such attacks.

In an interview for an upcoming edition of 60 Minutes, CBS News anchor Katie Couric asked Gates about the nation's cyber security after hackers stole specifications from a $300 billion fighter jet development program as well as other sensitive information.

In a series of spy attacks, hackers stole information about the Pentagon's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter project and the Air Force's air traffic control system, according to a Wall Street Journal report Tuesday.

The computer spies copied several terabytes of data from the Joint Strike Fighter project, the most expensive in Defense Department history, pertaining to the electronics and design systems of the aircraft, several current and former officials told the Journal.

Officials said the separate incursion into the air traffic control system could allow intruders to interfere with military aircraft.

Gates would not discuss the specifics of the attacks, but said, "I believe we still have security of the sensitive systems."

Generally, "We think we have pretty good control of our sensitive information both with respect to intelligence and equipment systems, but we, like everybody else, is under attack. Banks are under attack. Every country is under attack," Gates told Couric.

But, he said, "It's sometimes very difficult to figure out a home address on these attacks so one of the things that I am doing in the budget is significantly increasing the resources for cyber experts. We're going to more than quadruple the number of experts that we have in this area. We're devoting a lot more money to it."

The source of the espionage appears to be China, according to a former official, though the origin of any attacks could be masked. Chinese officials deny any involvement and say U.S. suspicion is the result of a "Cold War mentality."

Similar attacks have become more frequent in recent months, underscoring the increasingly heated battles taking place in cyberspace. Earlier this month, the Wall Street Journal reported that Russian and Chinese spies gained access to the U.S. electrical grid, inserting software that could disrupt the system.

In the Joint Strike Fighter attack, officials said that while spies made off with some data, the most sensitive information is stored on separate, non-networked computers. But the vulnerability lies in the Pentagon's reliance on private defense contractors, some foreign, who have less-than-secure networks. The breaches apparently took place in Turkey and another U.S. ally nation, according to the report.

While there is no U.S. agency currently dedicated solely to cyber-security, the Obama administration is expected to propose a senior White House post to coordinate military efforts to guard against further breaches. The White House may also look to extend a $17 billion security initiative originally planned by the Bush administration.

"This is going to be an enduring problem and it is going to be a challenge not just for the Department of Defense but for the entirety of the United States," Gates said.

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by tarha_c April 22, 2009 8:29 PM EDT
when i was four years old, i liked green beans, fresh ones, snapping, soaking, simmering them .. i liked word jumbles in the paper .. i liked oatmeal and oatmeal pies .. i liked talking to the furniture and foliage and all the endless peoples what lived inside them .. all those things were at my grandmom's house .. i liked her .. i liked everything around her .. i liked everything about her .. then i was dragged kicking and screaming to school .. i said repeatedly that i didn't want to go, that i wouldn't go .. in retrospect: there should have been millions and quadrillions dollars of satellite photos of millions and quadrillions dollars of infants and toddlets and old folk and their flower and weed creature body weather maps.

Yep, Jason Aldean says it very well on his new CD. You must listen to the song fast. Out with the old and pass it down stuff, leave the farmers almanac for the fire place and hit that 4 or 6 lane going through here and you can drive as fast as you want through that quantumn leap you just took me on!
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by tarha_c April 22, 2009 8:08 PM EDT
You know that program too?

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by tarha_c April 22, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
The internet is gone or haven't any of you really noticed. It has been infiltrated with all these programs. That was the orginal intent and it has happened. But if you don't know about what they have already accomplished then you won't know what it looks like now. You'll just continue to play your games and they will continue to monitor your emails. They can make you a "Beta" which is a ***** for their elite or they might work on you to be an NASA, I'll let you all figure that one out. They might get you to attack you mate or your family or they will do it for you. Gates knows about it and you handlers on here knows he knows about all this crazy crap.

The communication systems are GONE!
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by disabled-student April 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT
The Chinese government should sue The Wall Street Journal for fabricating this piece of fiction.

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE53K0TG20090421

Several terabytes of data? I don't believe there is that much data even if you combined all the schematics for every piece of military equipment through all of history from every nation. That's including revisions, modifications and performance specs, etc, etc, etc.

And now the government is going to throw even more tax dollars at the problem...

What is up with Wall Street, is there no one there have any ethics left, not even in journalism?
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by April 22, 2009 9:08 AM EDT
It's true, we have sold out to China over the years like a drunken Frat Boy in his seventh year
of college without a major. I read an article several years ago about an analyst who worked
for Sandia labs in New Mex, who discovered them hacking into plans for an Apache (?) weapons system. When he personally traced the "hackers" to a small island off the China coast, he reported it to his superiors and the FBI. He was fired for "unauthorized activity", or
something along those lines. The only reason China hasn't broken our fingers is that they
need to protect the hundreds of billions they have invested, and are smart enough not to
shoot themselves in the foot.
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by longtree-2009 April 22, 2009 8:55 AM EDT
China owns us. they have loaned or bought our debt to something like 1 trillion dollars. a communist nation saving the supposed world's best democracy. how amazing is that? most of our products on store shelves are Made In China. we have who knows how many Chinese living here and most are loyal to the mainland in some way. some are caught spying. recently a tour of wealthy chinese were traveling the nation buying up real estate. wondering why we just don't give ourselves over to China. if a democracy has to rely on a communist nation to survive, then something just isn't right. China rules us whether we like to admit it or not. Without a draft in place, we don't have an ice cube's chance in a blazing fire of standing up to China. China's intelligence knows just how weak our current all volunteer military is to fight a conventional war. China also knows just how obese and out of shape americans are thus not able to field a large military on short notice. we are all hosed. start learning mandarin. with obama/hillary and their appeasement foreign policy, turn out the lights as the pary is over for us. sure is beginning to look like it.
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by johnb8888 April 22, 2009 8:23 AM EDT
Why shouldn't these foreigners be able to hack into any US computer? Thanks to the H1B visa program, hundreds of thousands of Chinese were trained at our best university and corporate labs, all so Bill Gates could fire middle-aged Americans and hire cheap coolie labor.

Truly, "the capitalists will sell you the rope with which you will hang them."
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by disabled-student April 22, 2009 5:55 AM EDT
Did you read the part about several terabytes being downloaded. Whoever reported this is a total computer neophyte. It would probably take over a week to download that much data over the fastest internet connection. Just one terabyte could hold well over 128 full length DVD movies, including previews and commentaries, etc. I don't think it's possible for there to be that much F-35 data to fit even one DVD, unless there's a documentary on the Making of F-35 and the families of every contractor who worked on it.

OK, lets assume somehow the Chinese even managed to get the data. How was the copying and siphoning detected? Was it during (there would have been days for this to happen) or after the data was copied? If there was a log, why didn't they change or even delete it so there was no evidence? What did they leave behind a calling card? Were there any official with a name contributing to this story? I don't see the point of hiding their identity.

Now because of this news, Defense Secretary Robert Gates is going to increase budget for internet security? Hello, this country has a $10+ trillion deficit and growing. Why are you throwing money at a problem you don't understand, much less if it's true or not.

What kind of irresponsible reporting are they doing over at the Wall Street Journal? Are they ethically challenged too?

It seems strange if they could break in and steal trillion bytes of data, yet they don't take any measure to hide it.

And assuming Chinese are breaking into our system, why are there no officials denouncing these attacks? I'll tell you why, this news is pure balonie. That's right, I'm welling to admit I'm no professional internet security expert, but I think I know a fish when I see one... and this is one fishy story, like that one about the Chinese hacking into our power grid.

Read this...
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE53K0TG20090421?sp=true
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by Newster1 April 22, 2009 3:06 AM EDT
I don't know why you would have any secretive documents attached to the Internet, its a public communication network!
Posted by spaceatoms "

Because they's fum da govarnment and deys heres to PROTEKTA YOUSE ALL fum Nukular attack!
You think that's all thats connected? go to your county tax assessor's web site and search for your property and notice how much of YOUR information they put up on public web sites now- your mortgage info, how much you pay in taxes, who the house was bought from, your mortgage/loan originator, your full legal name and marital status, floor plans, maps and photos of your house.

These govt morons are so stupid that they scanned and put up these documents on public county web sites with people's SS#'s and signatures as well as other sensitive personal informaion clearly visible. Some counties and states had this up for months before the chit hit the fan.
These are the morons you count on to protect you LOL
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by Newster1 April 22, 2009 3:01 AM EDT
News anchor Katie Couric asked Gates about the nation's cyber security after hackers stole specifications from a $300 billion fighter jet development program as well as other sensitive information.

In a series of spy attacks, hackers stole information about the Pentagon's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter project and the Air Force's air traffic control system, according to a Wall Street Journal report Tuesday. "

LOL thats hilarious, these idiots couldnt even protect a jar of rotten mayonaise from being stolen if their lives depended on it.
WELCOME to da inner net BOB, babob bobbbbob babobabob, now take your little DELL puter, unplug da little cord dat goes to da wall thingy, put da puter and da CORD in da box dem came in and put dem out on da curbo by da trashy can!

Haf a good day BOB babobobababoba!
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by mljohns00 April 22, 2009 1:57 AM EDT
Move evidence that handing our government our money and our private information is a recipe for disaster.
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by 167irishboy April 22, 2009 12:39 AM EDT
Our invinicible attitude only entices foreign enemies. Why would a system that had this kind of information even be connected to a universal system that someone could hack into? We're so smart, we're dumb. Educated idiots.
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by tarha_c April 22, 2009 12:32 AM EDT
But should anyone at all have this type of crazy thing happening to them I am going to post a website you can go to that may help you......


Project Monarch: Nazi Mind Control
by Ron Patton


http://www.whale.to/b/patton.html#Deprogrammers%20and%20Exposers
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by tarha_c April 22, 2009 12:22 AM EDT
And to think that they Ok'ed this sort of thing in the patriot act, and it can happen to anybody, me and I am military family or a regular businessman or even a homeless, the gangs are all caught up in it too ...... and so when they tell me they arte concerned about our department of defense and our safety and our nations protection and the very ones in our last administration are the ones who implemented this all back into circulation....

But when they tell the public about their concern ........ I must be one of the many experimentations.... I feel bad for the ones who don't have an eye to see or an ear to here.... that's what the Lord says.... Let those who have an eye to see, let them see and those with an ear to hear, let them hear!
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by tarha_c April 22, 2009 12:13 AM EDT
You know this will really get me into trouble and they may even try to kill me but I just don't care anymore because I can see that they will never leave me alone until they get their way. I am trying to explain to you right now why it is on here...... because if your not aware of it and you don't know what it is or what it is called you can become a victim of it and never know it until they have themselves twined into your life. Then you either get tired of it and you try to fight back or you give up...... I guess this is my way of fight back and not giving in to it because there isn't really anyone to turn to because it is put out by our own government......
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by tarha_c April 22, 2009 12:08 AM EDT
I was working at a Spanish bar once as security and I don't speak spanish but my partner did and he was telling me that what the songs were saying. They were telling the patrons of the bar to go to Mexico and get loads of drugs and to where to sneak then across the boarder. Then some songs tell criminals where to go to to purchase weapons from under ground arms deals and they go purchase them and they are getting their weapons on the border like that too. Same way with murder, slavery, protitution, you name it. It is infiltrated through out all of the music and video's amd movies too! They are like subliminal messaging.......

And if you miss behave like I am doing right this very minute ..they will come after me and threaten to hurt my family and threaten to hurt me or come and get me...... or even make me think they are going to kill me. Now if You are under the Gamma program they come at your from all different directions and they group things together so you can't tell exactly where its coming from and no one but the slave can describe it because it is so embedded into the mental stages of the program then when your number comes up.... like mine. I have a number on my X-file, and they develope material that will affect you and so it becomes a personal attack if your just a common american like me, but can you imagine what it would be if you had groups of people all on one program ....... I think that is how 911 occurred, it was a sleeper cell under this programing.... they are dangerous and it has all been made possible through the abuse of the patriot act and the eavesdropping on us, plus out computer technology and radio technology, as well.
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by tarha_c April 21, 2009 11:55 PM EDT
What I am showing you is a form of Cyber attack. This programing forms sleeper cells and with this form of programing it ...... works very well and effective with mental health conditions. But you take a game like "WarCraft" and these people play them day in and day out and they seed these programs into their brains with the constant burning into the brain numbers and code words and then they are called upon to do these outlandish crimes and attacks. That was what happened to president Reagan ..... John Hinkley was a mentally unstable patient and he under this form a mind controlled gaming. These people just click and they are our own people. They are our own american citizens and they get caught up in this gaming programing. There's all kinds of ways they program you. Some body went in and Hacked my email and got all kinds of information off my computer and the next thing you know I am hearing it in songs on the radio. So I would go by the CD when it came out and my whole dam email account was on these CDs and you know how we love to listen to a good song over and over and imbed those words into our heads. Then these programers use these songs to creat triggar words and it works like sleeper cells ....so no body needs to tell me about our CYBER attacks because I am being attacked every day and so are other people for different reasons.
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by tarha_c April 21, 2009 11:44 PM EDT
What is a "Beta Alter" ? It's something like this....... If I was a deprogrammer I would ask questions like this......I want to ask the inner core of you is there any part of you, any part of Mary,? that?s the host?s name, ?who knows anything about Alpha, Beta, Delta, or Theta?? multiples and that she has an alter named Helen and she has one named Mary, she has one named Gertrude, she has one named Elizabeth, and she has one named Monica. Every one of those alters may have put on it a program, perhaps designated alpha-zero-zero-nine,

Let?s suppose that this whole front row here are multiples and that she has an alter named Helen and she has one named Mary, she has one named Gertrude, she has one named Elizabeth, and she has one named Monica. Every one of those alters may have put on it a program, perhaps designated alpha-zero-zero-nine, a Cult person could say,
This comes from their belief in psychic sorts of abilities and powers, including their ability to psychically cause somebody to develop a brain aneurysm and die.

Don't let me forget to tell you that I have a cousin who has an ex wife by the name of "MONICA" and she just recently in the last few months had a brain aneurysm, but we all got lucky and she didn't die from it!
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by spaceatoms April 21, 2009 11:20 PM EDT
I don't know why you would have any secretive documents attached to the Internet, its a public communication network!
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by cbsantispin April 21, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
The U.S. Government in the past would only employ U.S. Civilians in certain sensitive areas, but these days Contractors who employ many foreign workers in some cases have more access to data and systems than U.S. Citizens. DOD has gone Contractor crazy and has only itself to blame. DOD's use of Contractors with skimpy background checks has been out of control for some time. I saw a Post once somewhere where a Contractor bragged about having access to U.S. Nuclear Data and mentioned the U.S. should be careful saying; don't forget you farmed this out to us. Who knows if this were true or not, but it still sounded scary. Many foreign Contractors are very smart and talented, but do they have the U.S. best interest at heart or are they talented technical prostitutes for sale to the highest bidder? China has advanced leaps and bounds because of access to hungry and unemployed former Soviet Union assets.
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