Ex-Cop Shoots Cop, Kills Self Over Affair

Retired NYC Officer Shoots At Car Carrying Wife And A Friend, Both Off-Duty Police

(AP)  A retired New York City police officer shot an off-duty officer he suspected was having an affair with his police officer wife, then killed himself in the driveway of his suburban home, police said Saturday.

Cecil Ramsay, 51, shot himself in the head after firing at a car carrying his wife and a friend, both off-duty NYPD officers, Suffolk County police said.

He shot Officer Edwin Chittick in the hand after accusing him "of seeing his wife," said Suffolk County Police Det. Lt. Jack Fitzpatrick.

"It's our understanding that that is not the case. They're just acquaintances," Fitzpatrick said.

Chestean Howard said he called 911 after hearing several gunshots in the neighborhood, then looked out his window.

"He wasn't moving," Howard told Newsday Saturday. "I thought, `That's it. He's dead,"' Howard said.

Ramsay fired at least three times at the Mercedes-Benz as his wife, Dady Belfort, drove away with a wounded Chittick, Fitzpatrick said.

He then put the gun to his head and pulled the trigger in front of several construction workers doing work on his home, Fitzpatrick said.

Outside the home about 40 miles east of New York City, a body covered by a yellow tarp lay in the driveway for hours Saturday morning under a steady rain before it was removed on a gurney.

A Mercedes-Benz registered to the address of the West Babylon home - its driver and passenger seats smeared with blood - was on the grounds of a Long Island hospital for several hours Saturday.

Ramsay had been ill with heart problems and was awaiting a heart transplant, Fitzpatrick said.

A 2007 article about Belfort in the Congressional Record said she has been an officer since 1989 and was promoted to detective in 2005. Belfort was pursuing a master's degree in criminal justice at the time and has three children with Ramsay, according to the profile.

New York City police wouldn't comment on the shootings or give information about the officers, referring all questions to Long Island authorities.

[gunownerdan]

This is how people with guns handle problems. They shoot people!~
Posted by schoollord

So I guess 99% of gun owners must never have any problems!

[schoollord]

This is how people with guns handle problems. They shoot people!~

[ThisIsTheEndd]

it's a damn shame that the morals in the US are almost non existant anymore. Oh by the way, don't waste time trying to find fault with what I've said, because I'm right. So don't waste my time or yours.
Posted by luke_4u
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You're not right. You're self-righteous, which means you have an inferiority complex.

[Dgunner]

Here is a man smart enough to retain a education . But weak enough to let a woman of all of Gods gifts drive him to doing something like this. Makes you want to move to New Ork where the finest are protecting you today and doing drive by shootings the next.

[gnimelf1968]

If someone really wants to kill someone , they are going to do it no matter if they have a gun or not. Not all murders are committed with fire arms. We just had two teenagers this weekend killed by being ran over by someone they were fighting with at a high school dance, and just a few weeks ago a kid stabbed his friend over a disagreement at school. So please get over the whole guns kill people thing, people kill people. Maybe we should outlaw let's see, knives, cars, planes, anything that can create fire, rope, everything sharp, anti freeze, rat poison, bath tubs, pillows, plastic bags, etc. etc. etc.

[luke_4u]

Yes, adultery can very well be worse than murder, particularly if it causes the death of an innocent party. This scumbag gals husband was the victim here, and because of what his low life wife did, one man got shot and her husband lost his life. If I had the authority to do so, I'd give her a shovel and make her dig her husbands grave by hand. Sometimes there is an excuse (or reason) for murder, but there's "never" an excuse for adultery. It's like I said earlier, it's a damn shame that the morals in the US are almost non existant anymore. Oh by the way, don't waste time trying to find fault with what I've said, because I'm right. So don't waste my time or yours.

[luke_4u]

Ya know the main reason I even comment here, is too see just what morons there are around. evilbushevics, you are probably one of the biggest morons on here. You're a complete fool, and you need to wake up and get a life.

[quietamercan]

So let me get this straight. UR_Majesty and Justfacts101 are arguing that a major reason to keep private ownership of guns legal is that overall crime will increase if guns are banned and use Australia's recent history as an example of this occurring. Aussie1761 counters their argument by saying that this is a discussion about gun availability in the US, not the effects gun availability has on society overall? Isn't that kind of like trying to discuss the sinking of the titanic while limiting the discussion to just lifeboats and not allowing mention of icebergs or water?

[Aussie1761]

This is for Justfacts101

This is after the ban on guns in Australia in 1996

"The total number of criminal incidents involving a firearm in NSW is now about 44 per cent lower than its peak in 1997, according to figures released today by the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research."

Release Date: Wednesday, 27 September 2006
My Source is from Firearms and violent crime in New South Wales: 1995-2005- New South Wales Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research

Ok I am done here.........have a great week........thanks for the discussion.

[Aussie1761]

Posted by UR_Majesty at 5:24 AM
It has been 12 months since Australia was forced to surrender personal firearms to be destroyed by their government.

Dear UR_Majesty .....yes I agree with this but not 12 months ago that happened on April 26 1996 after the Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania when 35 were killed and 21 injured.

So it is not 12 months ago it was in 1996 when Australians were then forced to surrender personal firearms.

"while law-abiding citizens turned them in , the criminals did not"

Well criminals are what they are criminals that is their lot in life to avoid laws......... the guy who killed the 35 people in 1996, was a law abiding citizen too. He had no criminal record up and until April 26 1996.

[Aussie1761]

Dear Justfacts101

Er.........while I do not dispute your facts about OZ.......but is not this discussion about guns and the easy availability of guns in the USA? ....the 30,000 dead US Citizens and the 64,000 US citizens injured every year due to guns. (Source Harvard University Gazette September 2008),

More American deaths in your country by your own weapons of mass destruction, guns, than the wars your country is currently involved in.........

[rsmik]

No wonder he was an ex-cop. Three shots and all he got was a hand.

[wolfmann4u-2009]

A LOT OF COPS ARE BURNED OUT ON THEIR JOBS AND IT ONLY TAKES ONE TO START A RIOT. COPS IN OUR SOCEITY SHOULD BE TESTED AND CERTIFIED ANUALLY TO SEE IF THEY STILL CAN HANDLE THEIR JOBS AS IT TAKES A CERTAIN TYPE PERSON TO BE A COP AND THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER YOUR LIFE AND DEATH. I AM A AEROSPACE WELDOR AND I HAVE TO TAKE A TEST AND BE CERTIFIED EVERY 3 YEARS. I THINK AT LEAST THE SAME SHOULD ALSO APPLY TO COPS.
THE WOLFMAN

[quietamercan]

Justfacts101, here's a few more numbers for your case. Sorry the table format got screwed up.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-40497

[Mercy767]

umm *** is wrong with you people. Judging is not your job get a life, don't talk about something you know nothing about. Also for those who are quoting things "Thall shall not kill" is also in there.

[exaf74]

I have never understood this "ownership" concept that some have about relationships.

People are never "owned".
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 5:17 AM : Apr 12, 2009

I dunno sarge; in the twenty years I have been with my wife it has cost me a lot, so I would say I kinda "bought her" (& still paying for it) but at the same time she sure makes me feel that she owns me! lol!

[luke_4u]

If the guy "was" messing around with the other guys wife, he deserved to be shot. Adultery is a terrible sin, one of the ten commandments, and should be severely punished. If, and I do say "if" this cop "was" messing around with the other guys wife, he knew what he was doing, and knew there could be serious consequences. Therefore he brought this on himself. The wife shoud go to prison for a few years for what she did, all she would have to have done, was keep her clothes on and stay home, where she belonged. Had she done that, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The morals in this country are going further and further down the tubes every day. It's a shame, a damn shame when people no longer want to live up to their marriage vows. If you don't want to be married, then for Gods sake get a divorce, but don't commit adultery.

[Justfacts101]

The first part of this is directed to Aussie1761

From YOUR government's web site in a PDF about recorded crime 1996-2008

Assaults: 1996 - 114,156 2008 - 176,427
Sexual Assaults: 1996 - 14,542 2008 - 19,781
Robberys: 1996 - 16,372 2008 - 17,988 (and a high of 26,591 in 2001)
Kidnappings: 1996 -478 2008 - 730

The percentage of increases of violent crime in your country far exceed the percentage of increase in population. Your erroneous statement about crime dropping fails to include most violent crimes.

For those in our Good Ole USA . In the "RELATED" section just under the image in this article is a wonderful interactive link called "Guns in America" Peruse this if you will, paying particular attention to the "State-by-State" map and more specifically to the District of Columbia's Deaths per 100,000 people to Guns comparatively to the rest of the country. Then please note, Washington D.C. is the ONLY place in the USA that has an almost complete ban on firearms.
At a rate of 34.3 persons per 100,000 dying from a firearm it far exceeds the closest which is Louisiana with 19.6 per 100,000. Thats just a few people away from being TWICE as likely to be shot in a place with the strictest Gun Laws in the country.

In both cases these are facts readily available to anyone taking a few moments to search and read about something prior to posting something that has no basis in cold hard fact.

[UR_Majesty]

Below you will find the truth about gun control.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late !!!!!!

[Truckman09]

Oh my goodness...no it can't be. We still have guns in America. How dare we! you people need a life we need guns to protect ourselves and if you think the government is going to be the answer your wrong, big time.